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WOW! The IM tracker has gotten a lot better than it used to be! Don't worry, I am sure she is fine. Probably just a glitch with the timing mat at the checkout counter....

Marc-I plan to  start tracking early next week. Do you use the ithlete pro or just the basic program for data/tracking?  Also, what sort of rest or tapered training did you follow before testing to establish your baseline?

Thanks 

Interested to know more about it as well. While I also mostly train by power on the bike, RPE on the run, and pace in the water, I do pay attention somewhat to HR trends. For example, I take note of average HR trends at certain paces or outputs. But I also take not of other indicators as well. Things like HR uncoupling correlating with detraining, abnormally elevated HR before sickness, and (like yesterday) a decoupling of HR from effort. After doing Marc-induced hard intervals the day prior, I simply could not drive my HR up compared to effort. I was just shelled from the effort the day prior, so I readjusted. Are these the kinds of things/events HRV allows you to track more closely/less anecdotally? What other things can it expose? Can it be predictive, or only descriptive?

Ugh, Jason - agree with Marc, that stinks. How soon is your MRI?

Jason-is this the same knee that you had issues with last year?  I did the same thing about 2 months ago....pushed through a painful knee on a long run.  It slowly improved after a week or two away from running.  It did convince me to  get back to working on some leg strength workouts to try to strengthen the supporting muscles.

Pool running/aqua jogging.......has to be the worst thing ever.  For me, 30 minutes of pool running feels like it take 2 hours.  II have done my share so I can limit fitness lost but  I hate it. I have a Waterfi ipod shuffle that I use for running since it is so humid down here.  Pod casts should help pass the time.

Swim done. Strength and short run this afternoon.  Weather looks crappy over the weekend down here so likely to miss my weekly long ride outside. 

Wow - that is a great plan!

FWIW a few years ago about two months before IMLP I took a freak tumble while trail running and suffered a "pinched" meniscus. Working with my coach and PT we substituted every scheduled run for a walk of the same time, and added in a lot of deep water running before or after almost every swim, bike, or walk. These included some forward, backward, and lateral "running." I was lucky as it was in the middle of the summer and I could do almost all of it in various lakes around town, so it was nice to be able to put on my speedo belt and actually "run" somewhere (shore to shore, island to island, etc.). As a pretty good runner with lots of work already in the bag, the purpose of the walking was two-fold: 1) just make sure that I had lots of time on my feet as that is a huge part of marathon breakdowns, and 2) be in shape to walk the distance if I was able to heal up in time. About two weeks before the race I was able to add a little bit of time running to each walk and built up to 20 minutes of running total. On race day I ran every step of the marathon without issue and was probably less than 10 minutes slower than I would have been without the injury.

At any rate, it sounds like you are being pragmatic about it. As soon as you get a diagnosis you, your coach, and your PT/rehab folks can put together a plan to keep you in Paris. It's in April, correct? Sucks though that you ar losing time jacking around with insurance.

in addition to the lessening of impact pool running is great in that it engages and strengthens muscles/tendons/ligaments through a full range of motion due to the water resistance.

not sure of your recent running history, and the smarties will know better, but I have had great success recovering from my most recent knee injury with BarryP. Doc wanted me to run a little bit every day. I started with just 10 minutes as my easy run, sandwiched in to 1:00~1:15 total ambulation. I ran everyday without a break, and worked up to my long run of 55 minutes. All easy running. I switched over to the ST 100 in 100 challenge so I shortened my "long" run and increased my shirt run to 30 minutes, again almost always very, very easy (shhh, don't tell Marc but I am beating him on points). "Working out" stops Monday, and "Training" begins though, so not sure how long that will last - I don't really think the challenge is very conducive to smart training. But over the past 79 days it has gotten me out in the rain, sleet, ice, and 50+mph winds, so there is that.