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greyguy - 2010-03-30 9:19 AM

Going to Florida this week and looking forward to some warm weather and outside training.

Will be bringing my bike down and am taking a leap of faith with the following product:

http://www.aircaddy.com/products1.html

I have never used it before and will see if it works well. Nice part is you only have to remove the front tire and lower the seat. I think the airline will charge me around $70 to check it.



You don't have to take the handlebars (and aero extensions) off? They will fit into that?


I am going to try it out later today. They tell me you may just have to rotate the aerobars.

We'll see....



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greyguy - 2010-03-30 10:19 AM Going to Florida this week and looking forward to some warm weather and outside training. Will be bringing my bike down and am taking a leap of faith with the following product: http://www.aircaddy.com/products1.html I have never used it before and will see if it works well. Nice part is you only have to remove the front tire and lower the seat. I think the airline will charge me around $70 to check it.


Check your airline's website for bike luggage fees and print it off and bring it with you when you fly.

Some airlines are notorious for charging variable prices for bringing a bike with you.

Have fun in warm FL!
2010-03-30 12:55 PM
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Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!
2010-03-30 1:03 PM
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So, I'm volunteering for IMLP this year and will be registering for 2011. I was planning on doing Harryman this May but had to defer to 2011 due to injury. I see that 7 people are signed up for both HM and LP for 2010 and it looks like I'll be in that same boat next year. IMLP is my A++ race; the main goal of my triathlon career to date. What are folks thoughts on the toll Harryman will take during IMLP prep? Looks like they're about 9 weeks apart. This will be my first IM but not first HIM. Again, we're talking 2011 so don't go looking at my logs and tell me I don't have sufficient training
2010-03-30 1:32 PM
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HI Hartomophone, welcome to the list!

Sara, you should go for it with Boston. Why not? Especially once you're an Ironman, you will know you can go after a goal and reach it!

Fishing trip: are you gonna post photos? Sounds like a blast!

I am heading to Vermont tomorrow for some mountainous riding on roads where there are about 5 cars an hour. Much better than here on Long Island where there are about 5 cars every 15 seconds, and the biggest hill around is "the one by the Fish Hatchery."  This will be my first real riding outside so I am nervous but psyched. Hills, here I come! I just checked to make sure my brakes and my granny gear are in good working order...

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2010-03-30 2:06 PM
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Hartamophone - 2010-03-29 10:34 PM

tasr - 2010-03-29 8:20 PM
Hartamophone - 2010-03-29 8:39 PM Wow.  106 pages.  I was just told about this thread today (when I introduced myself in the introductions forum) and thought I'd check it out. 

After having watched family/friends do this race for over a decade, I'm pumped to be tacking my first IM (in my fourth season of racing, including a bunch of previous races in LP) in my second hometown come July.  Looking forward to seeing what other folks on here have to say about it.

Peace,

Hart


Welcome to the fun house Hart!  

Glad to have you aboard LP is a fun Ironman race.  If your a vet of the area .you don’t mind the hills. 



Thanks for the welcome, folks.  Pretty psyched for July.  And as for the hills, well, my road riding roots are firmly planted in LP and I'm doing the bulk of my training this year in Boulder, so I ain't skerred of a little climbing.
Welcome and be sure to let us know if the altitude training pays off! We may all be moving to Boulder if you pull a sub 10 hour!


2010-03-30 2:33 PM
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WittyCityGirl - 2010-03-30 1:55 PM Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!


90 miles a week seems very excessive to me. Particularly since running massive volume isn't necessarily going to make you run a BQ time. I'm no expert, I've done several marathons but my best is 3:58, still 18 minutes from a BQ in my AG so perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about, but that run volume for the average person sounds like a recipe for injury to me.

Also, I'm curious how you say you've "seen lower." Aren't Boston times set in stone? It's not like an IM where you have to rank, meaning there is flexibility on the qualifying time based on the competition.
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WittyCityGirl - 2010-03-30 1:55 PM Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!


90 miles a week seems very excessive to me. Particularly since running massive volume isn't necessarily going to make you run a BQ time. I'm no expert, I've done several marathons but my best is 3:58, still 18 minutes from a BQ in my AG so perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about, but that run volume for the average person sounds like a recipe for injury to me.

Also, I'm curious how you say you've "seen lower." Aren't Boston times set in stone? It's not like an IM where you have to rank, meaning there is flexibility on the qualifying time based on the competition.
That is basically running a half marathon every day. Must be some kind of mistake there. That's an injury waiting to happen unless you are training for something like the Western States 100!
2010-03-30 2:58 PM
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WittyCityGirl - 2010-03-30 12:55 PM Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!
No. We all are different and respond different to training based on our physiology. I know people who can run 3hr marathons on 25-30 mpw or some who will need 40-50 mpw to come close to 3:30-3:45hrs. 90 mpw is something a very fast AGer or elite runnner might log a week hence I doubt many athletes qualifyfing for Boston come anywhere close to that number. 

In your case well it is hard to tell without knowing you but I am going to guess that you do not need to run that much; you simply need to run more within your perrsonal limits/constraints, be consistent, manage your load and see where that takes you.
2010-03-30 3:28 PM
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WittyCityGirl - 2010-03-30 1:55 PM Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!

That's waaaaaay too much.  Way too much.  My cousin just ran a 2:41 at the Houston Marathon and he barely peaked around 90; and he's a 20-year-old, skinny, Prefontaine-lookin' type of dude.  A few 45 mile weeks, maybe touching 50-ish miles per week should get the job done.   I highly, highly recommend the book: Advanced Marathoning by Pete Pfitzinger.  An 18/55 Plan (included in the book 18 weeks, 55 mile peak) might be right for you.  Everything I learned about running, I learned from this book.  http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Marathoning-2nd-Peter-Pfitzinger/dp/0736074600/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269980852&sr=8-1

I'm also going for a BQ attempt this Fall.  And if at first you don't succeed, try - try - try again. 

 

 



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WittyCityGirl - 2010-03-30 1:55 PM Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!


Seriously, think it through.  Does that honestly sound reasonable to you?  Let's play the numbers.  Say you run 6 days/wk.  3 short, 2 med, 1 long.  

Short 3 x 10
Med 2 x 17
Long 1x26

Even if you split some into 2x/days, you still can't come up with it.  If it's not a recipe for injury it's a recipe for burnout IMO.
 
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PennState - 2010-03-30 8:33 PM  Point is like Jorge said, we are all different and it is just bad advice to suggest 90 miles as a goal in the generic sense.


That's what I was thinking too...not that I would attempt 90 mpw.  I really don't like running that much. Just making conversation. 

Thanks for the book rec! I'll check it out after I finish the God-forsaken Kaplan GRE prep course I just signed up for. *ugggggggggghhhhh* 


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WittyCityGirl - 2010-03-30 1:55 PM Unrelated (yet kind of related) to the marathon at LP:

So...I did a 9 mile race this weekend and averaged a 8:10 pace (this is crazy because about three years ago my knees were in such awful shape that I couldn't do a lap around the 1/17th of a mile track at the local Y!!).  It was certainly a confidence boost since last year I averaged a 8:49 pace on the same course.

I'm thinking about what I want to do after LP (OMG, there IS life after IMLP, right?!?!?!)...
For my age group, a qualifying Boston Marathon pace would be sub 8:23 (I've seen as high 8:25, though). 

Anywho, this website: http://www.asksasha.com/boston-marathon-qualifying-time.php suggests that I need to run 90 miles/week if I want to be able to qualify. 

Does that make sense to anyone??????!

I know one person on this site (Terps421) that runs mileage like that.  I think she really like running because it a year round thing for her. 

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mrbbrad - 2010-03-30 2:03 PM So, I'm volunteering for IMLP this year and will be registering for 2011. I was planning on doing Harryman this May but had to defer to 2011 due to injury. I see that 7 people are signed up for both HM and LP for 2010 and it looks like I'll be in that same boat next year. IMLP is my A++ race; the main goal of my triathlon career to date. What are folks thoughts on the toll Harryman will take during IMLP prep? Looks like they're about 9 weeks apart. This will be my first IM but not first HIM. Again, we're talking 2011 so don't go looking at my logs and tell me I don't have sufficient training



Dream Chaser (DC) has that schedule (HarryMan then LP) pretty much.  Check out his RR’s when he’s done.  He is good with the RR's.  He is also a seasoned triathlete and as done several HIM so his performance is going to be different.  Not to say your performance will be bad. 
 
It is really not necessary to do a HIM before an IM.  I think 9 weeks out you should be OK.  Then again HarryMan wouldn’t be your first HIM.  I see you’re doing SavageMan this year.  I may see you there.

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supposed to be 70s in the NE this weekend!  whats on tap?

I got 4:30 on the bike....cant wait for that!

got some tempo in there, so this week I'll be heading north to the flat lands....
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cusetri - 2010-03-31 5:56 AM supposed to be 70s in the NE this weekend!  whats on tap?

I got 4:30 on the bike....cant wait for that!

got some tempo in there, so this week I'll be heading north to the flat lands....

Wow, what a coincidence, I have a 4:31 planned on the bike!

But seriously, this Saturday I was looking at a 3 hour Bike and 45 min Run.  Sunday is all about finding Easter eggs!!

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PennState - 2010-03-31 8:06 AM Yeah I suspect a ride over 4 hours will happen on Friday. Who knows, we will see


And Saturday when your inlaws are here?   
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cusetri - 2010-03-31 5:56 AM supposed to be 70s in the NE this weekend!  whats on tap?

I got 4:30 on the bike....cant wait for that!

got some tempo in there, so this week I'll be heading north to the flat lands....


Yep if i can get some sleep I'll be out ridding for sure. 

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cusetri - 2010-03-31 5:56 AM supposed to be 70s in the NE this weekend!  whats on tap?

I got 4:30 on the bike....cant wait for that!

got some tempo in there, so this week I'll be heading north to the flat lands....


I am so excited about the weather! I'm hoping to take my new bike out this weekend if I can get it all set up. My fitting isn't until next week but I can't wait that long!
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