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melbo55 - 2013-03-03 3:28 PM Someone please help me get my butt out the door for my long run.  It's cold and windy and my husband just brought home Chinese take-out and I have 6-7 miles to run.

You better get out there and run now!! I've been almost depressed because I haven't been able to run in 6 weeks. Run for those of us that haven't been able to



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bcraht - 2013-03-03 4:02 PM Ok, poddies.  I am about to get on my bike for a ride, then I am going to go for my first 'run' since Jan 2nd.  I say 'run' because it will be 30s run, 2&1/2 min walk.  But I get to run.  Please say a little prayer for me that it goes well. 

 

Done.. I start my attempt my recovery run tomorrow Wink

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JJ- - 2013-03-03 2:58 PM

Wow, I have a lot to catch up on. I've been out of town and had no data signal. I'll scan through and see what I've missed.

 

Update: Thanks for the PMs and Inspires over the last week or so. It's been a crazy couple of weeks. I've been out of town on a ranch in Kansas and had no data signal from my cell phone and it drove me crazy not being able to get on BT. Anyways as far as my IT Band I have been a complete couch potato per doctor orders. I haven't done anything since my last run attempt 2 weeks ago Wednesday except one bike ride last Sunday. i did try the elliptical but it hurt so I haven't done anything further. I did get a chance to go for a nice easy bike ride last Sunday in between road trips and it went very well, no pain. I decided not to push it and stayed off another week.

Tomorrow is the day! I am getting out for a short easy jog tomorrow to see how it goes. Lord willing there will be no IT Band pain and I will hopefully have a shot at Galveston. I am 4 weeks out now so it's gonna be tight. I've talked to my coach a few times and she is writing a plan that will basically have me build to Galveston with not much of a taper since I've been off so long. It's been over 6 weeks since my last successful run!!

I literally just walked in the door so I'm going to unpack and see my kids. I'll post more later about my plan for the next 6 weeks.

I hope all works out with the IT Band.  Good luck on the run, don't over push it. You'll be fine, I can feel it.

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bcraht - 2013-03-04 9:02 AM Ok, poddies.  I am about to get on my bike for a ride, then I am going to go for my first 'run' since Jan 2nd.  I say 'run' because it will be 30s run, 2&1/2 min walk.  But I get to run.  Please say a little prayer for me that it goes well. 

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

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Muskrat37 - 2013-03-03 7:38 PM

OK Pod Mates... 

 The main thing to note hear is that most sprinters use more of a straight arm technique with a much higher stroke rate, and a much harder / faster kick.  WE TRIATHLETES SHOULD NOT DO THIS!  Our stroke rate is much slower, and given the distance of our swims, we need to be as efficient as possible with each and every stroke.   

Are you sure about this? It goes against what is taught in swim smooth. They suggest a punchier, quicker stroke rate is what is needed in triathlon to be able to punch through the chop of the open water. I agree it says we should limit our kicking to a steady flutter to conserve our legs for the bike/run, that is until the last segment of the swim where it is advised to kick the legs a bit harder to get some blood back in them.Great videos though, only wish I could get as fast as that guy. Did notice though that when he starts picking the pace up, his form changes and he adopts more old school swimming techniques, ie thumb first entry etc.
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Muskrat37 - 2013-03-03 7:38 PM

OK Pod Mates... 

 The main thing to note hear is that most sprinters use more of a straight arm technique with a much higher stroke rate, and a much harder / faster kick.  WE TRIATHLETES SHOULD NOT DO THIS!  Our stroke rate is much slower, and given the distance of our swims, we need to be as efficient as possible with each and every stroke.   

Are you sure about this? It goes against what is taught in swim smooth. They suggest a punchier, quicker stroke rate is what is needed in triathlon to be able to punch through the chop of the open water. I agree it says we should limit our kicking to a steady flutter to conserve our legs for the bike/run, that is until the last segment of the swim where it is advised to kick the legs a bit harder to get some blood back in them.Great videos though, only wish I could get as fast as that guy. Did notice though that when he starts picking the pace up, his form changes and he adopts more old school swimming techniques, ie thumb first entry etc.

It's a relative difference. There's a huge difference between 100m sprinters and 1500m distance freestylers, very little difference between 1500m freestylers and open water swimmers. Where open water swimming changes is dependent on the conditions. TI will tell you to spear the water and glide no matter what. This is great for extremely calm inlets or rivers which are as close to a pool swim as you can get. Once you start getting into a little wind and chop, this is all going to hell, and you may even need greater rotation with a straighter-arm recovery, and really need to up the turnover.



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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
Yes to both.
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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
Yes to both.

The walk/run method was what I used in Dec/Jan to get back into running after recovering from plantar fasciitis.



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Sorry to totally divert the conversation but I'm excited because it is finally raining here - the first rain that we have had for the year.

It has been the hottest summer on record here average temperature for the three months of December, January and February was 32*C (that 90*F) and at least 21 days above 38*C (that's 100*F) most of them coming in strings of 4 or 5 days in a row.

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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
Yes to both.

http://www.jeffgalloway.com/



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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
Yes to both.

Jeff is my fwend

And here's the GS puppy I played with! The piglet too.





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TriAya - 2013-03-03 6:18 PM
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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
Yes to both.

Jeff is my fwend

And here's the GS puppy I played with! The piglet too.

Aw to both!I ran with Jeff once. He was faster.
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bcraht - 2013-03-04 9:02 AM Ok, poddies.  I am about to get on my bike for a ride, then I am going to go for my first 'run' since Jan 2nd.  I say 'run' because it will be 30s run, 2&1/2 min walk.  But I get to run.  Please say a little prayer for me that it goes well. 

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Oh, don't get me wrong, I completed my one and only marathon with run/walk.  Went to all run for my last 2 HM, but think I will go back to run/walk from here on out.  But I think I should reserve the word 'run' for when I am doing more running than walking Wink

ETA: My run went well, no pain/soreness/creakiness.  And it is an absolutely gorgeous day here, after the Pineapple Express Rain that we had in the past few days. 



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jobaxas - 2013-03-04 7:13 AM

I'm a firm believer and follower in the Jeff Galloway walk/run philosophy - it works for me!  I do 2mins/1min and that gave me an easy 5 hour marathon finish - my friend ran the whole thing and finished 2 mins ahead of me collapsed had to have medical treatment etc.  Me I was upright and happy!

Hey Jo I was talking to someone at my race yesterday about doing a HM in August and she mentioned this guy (thanks because I had forgotten his name). Does he have a book or a website?
His website is good.  The book is called

Marathon You Can Do it.  I followed it to the letter.  Without it I did a 6.06 marathon and suffered very bad shinsplints.  Switched to this and did a 5.06 the following year and had plenty in the tank.  I like his philosophy of anyone can do it.

Yeah I won't win any races but I do enjoy the whole I only have to run two minutes before i get a break!

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Yanti, so glad you are (mostly) OK. We were all getting pretty worked up trying to figure out where you'd gone! (spoken in my best mother voice)

I've had quite a weekend. My run yesterday was beautiful (the weather, not my running prowess Laughing) Then last evening we learned of the death of a sweet young lady, Jackie, to cancer. Jackie is actually first cousins with our niece Ashley, on her mother's side. We've known Jackie since she was born. I HATE CANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So when it was time to head out on my 3.75 hour ride today I dreaded riding in the wind but couldn't take that much drainer time and needed time to clear my head. So as I rode in to 25-29 mph winds I stayed surprisingly positive as I thought about/prayed for Ash, Jackie and the family. My mind also wandered to others I know who've been stricken with cancer. Still it was a fairly positive ride, in spite of the crazy winds. Then I got the text. (I don't normally check calls or texts when I'm riding but my cue from my DH that I need to stop and check is several texts in a row. Interestingly, this one did that on my phone but was only a single text. It's a God thing) The text was from my SIL. Her parents are splitting up. So I told her that I would pray for her and her family for the remainder of the ride. Hard to ride and cry. Anyway, because the winds were to my back I made it home in an hour 21 minutes, the trip out had been an hour 50. The wind at your back is a wonderful thing!

So overall, good training weekend. Now i'm off to look at swim vids from Skrat.



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Yanti, so glad you are (mostly) OK. We were all getting pretty worked up trying to figure out where you'd gone! (spoken in my best mother voice)

I've had quite a weekend. My run yesterday was beautiful (the weather, not my running prowess Laughing) Then last evening we learned of the death of a sweet young lady, Jackie, to cancer. Jackie is actually first cousins with our niece Ashley, on her mother's side. We've known Jackie since she was born. I HATE CANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So when it was time to head out on my 3.75 hour ride today I dreaded riding in the wind but couldn't take that much drainer time and needed time to clear my head. So as I rode in to 25-29 mph winds I stayed surprisingly positive as I thought about/prayed for Ash, Jackie and the family. My mind also wandered to others I know who've been stricken with cancer. Still it was a fairly positive ride, in spite of the crazy winds. Then I got the text. (I don't normally check calls or texts when I'm riding but my cue from my DH that I need to stop and check is several texts in a row. Interestingly, this one did that on my phone but was only a single text. It's a God thing) The text was from my SIL. Her parents are splitting up. So I told her that I would pray for her and her family for the remainder of the ride. Hard to ride and cry. Anyway, because the winds were to my back I made it home in an hour 21 minutes, the trip out had been an hour 50. The wind at your back is a wonderful thing!

So overall, good training weekend. Now i'm off to look at swim vids from Skrat.

Wow, that's quite an emotional weekend, TJ.  I'm sorry for your loss and for the marriage breakdown.  Sounds a little like you are the wind at your family's back sometimes in terms of support for them--I'll bet they are very grateful that you are part of their lives.  Prayers for you and yours.

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Sorry about your loss TJ. I too find peace in long rides that I am able time spend in prayer. Very cool. Makes those tough winds a little easier
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Butting in again...I follow the Galloway Method also. I had the pleasure of meeting him last year at the Disney Wine and Dine Half Marathon Expo...he was an absolute gentleman.

The are also a couple of iPhone apps that sinc your music with his run/walk schedules all the way from 5km to marathon (by "lolo"). Keeps me honest and adhereing to the schedule. Pretty cool.

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bondgirl - 2013-03-04 12:11 PM

Butting in again...I follow the Galloway Method also. I had the pleasure of meeting him last year at the Disney Wine and Dine Half Marathon Expo...he was an absolute gentleman.

The are also a couple of iPhone apps that sinc your music with his run/walk schedules all the way from 5km to marathon (by "lolo"). Keeps me honest and adhereing to the schedule. Pretty cool.

Hey Tammie!



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rrrunner - 2013-03-03 7:48 PM

Yanti, so glad you are (mostly) OK. We were all getting pretty worked up trying to figure out where you'd gone! (spoken in my best mother voice)

I've had quite a weekend. My run yesterday was beautiful (the weather, not my running prowess Laughing) Then last evening we learned of the death of a sweet young lady, Jackie, to cancer. Jackie is actually first cousins with our niece Ashley, on her mother's side. We've known Jackie since she was born. I HATE CANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So when it was time to head out on my 3.75 hour ride today I dreaded riding in the wind but couldn't take that much drainer time and needed time to clear my head. So as I rode in to 25-29 mph winds I stayed surprisingly positive as I thought about/prayed for Ash, Jackie and the family. My mind also wandered to others I know who've been stricken with cancer. Still it was a fairly positive ride, in spite of the crazy winds. Then I got the text. (I don't normally check calls or texts when I'm riding but my cue from my DH that I need to stop and check is several texts in a row. Interestingly, this one did that on my phone but was only a single text. It's a God thing) The text was from my SIL. Her parents are splitting up. So I told her that I would pray for her and her family for the remainder of the ride. Hard to ride and cry. Anyway, because the winds were to my back I made it home in an hour 21 minutes, the trip out had been an hour 50. The wind at your back is a wonderful thing!

So overall, good training weekend. Now i'm off to look at swim vids from Skrat.

TJ, so sorry for all of your family challenges. I am keeping you and yours in my prayers. You all are tomorrow's prayer run.

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Butting in again...I follow the Galloway Method also. I had the pleasure of meeting him last year at the Disney Wine and Dine Half Marathon Expo...he was an absolute gentleman.

The are also a couple of iPhone apps that sinc your music with his run/walk schedules all the way from 5km to marathon (by "lolo"). Keeps me honest and adhereing to the schedule. Pretty cool.

Hey Tammie!

Hey, Laughing.

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The Jobs List

Chris - DBA/Sr. System Analyst/Data Processing Manager at a small multi bank holding company.
Janyne - NCSU computer geek
Stacey - business manager/financial controller for a system of private schools. So I do all the accounting and finance stuff.
Ann-Marie - attorney for a law enforcement agency
Jonathan AK - US Army Black Hawk Mechanic/Crew Chief in a Medevac Company.
Chad - route sales for a wine distributor plus website development and swim coaching
Richard - self employed truck driver and haulage expert
Salty - environmentally sustainable design, currently doing retail design work for a large corporation
Tom - contract analyst for a seven hospital system
Jen -  Postdoctoral Research Fellow at a Medical Center attached to a University in the Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine Department
TJ - criminal investigator (aka Special Agent) for the U.S. Treasury
Kate - zookeeper at the Sacramento Zoo, one of the primary keepers of reptiles and amphibian
Jo - retail/merchandise planner
Felicia - college English professor
Kirsten - Veterinary Technician and a Vet Tech Educator
Marcus - E-6 in the USAF and a Crew Chief/Engine Troop on C-130-H3 cargo planes
Erin - SAHM with an MA as a Reading Specialist.  Hopes/plans to return to teaching in a few years.
JoGo - RN, manages cancer research, mainly in radiation, at a large university hospital.

Brie - Associate at small law firm, doing civil litigation, mostly defending property owners from suits by people who slip and fall on tiny patches of ice or non-existent liquids on stairs.

Sorry, I was on vacation and missed the work list.  I like the get to know you questions! Smile

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Btw, this was my attempt to write some support to Ms. Yanti from the Dominican Republic, where my only internet access was by spotty wi-fi on my kindle! It came up as HTML mumbo jumbo, lol.

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