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2007-06-21 11:36 PM
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wow, leave the forums for a few months and see what happens. seems as if we have a bit of a competition here. well count me in for team steelhead, Lucky and his faithfull cannondale r700 will be there to ensure that team steelhead will without a doubt triumph over evil, and those wishing to challenge us from the SOR team. I look forward to meeting some fellow BT'rs at the steelhead race and for those who are racing for the SOR team just to let you know I like guinness.... Lucky


2007-06-22 1:56 PM
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That is so ironic that you mention Guiness.  Because I just got off the phone with the people from Guiness (the world record book people).  And they were inquiring about our SOR team.  Something about how they were looking at our team's track record in races, and they felt they were about to witness the greatest ensemble ever put together at an HIM.

They figure we will break all the team speed records in their book, and they wanted to be present when this happened.  I thought this to be a pretty good compliment.  Kind of crazy.  I asked him if they would be going to Steelhead, as well, and he simply replied, "No".

So, just thought I would get you the update, since you brought it up.

2007-06-22 2:17 PM
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schmize - 2007-06-22 1:56 PM

That is so ironic that you mention Guiness.  Because I just got off the phone with the people from Guiness (the world record book people).  And they were inquiring about our SOR team.  Something about how they were looking at our team's track record in races, and they felt they were about to witness the greatest ensemble ever put together at an HIM.

They figure we will break all the team speed records in their book, and they wanted to be present when this happened.  I thought this to be a pretty good compliment.  Kind of crazy.  I asked him if they would be going to Steelhead, as well, and he simply replied, "No".

So, just thought I would get you the update, since you brought it up.

Scott, you did schedule them BEFORE the Katie Couric interview, right?  She wants to use a shot of us being interviewed by them in her tease for the segment.

2007-06-28 6:22 AM
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I have no clue how I missed this thread. I am going Steelhead. Is it wrong that I live in WI and I am doing Steelhead? SOR is so going down.
2007-06-28 8:45 AM
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MSIronman - 2007-06-28 6:22 AM

I have no clue how I missed this thread. I am going Steelhead. Is it wrong that I live in WI and I am doing Steelhead? SOR is so going down.


Well your either a complete genius or completely insane. I vote for completely insane.

I was talking to my friend who was born and raised in Michagan. I asked him why did Michagan want upper Michagan and not leave it for wisconsin. I heard there is nothing but crime over there. My friend responded there is no crime there like there is in benton harbor. I was like WHAT. I made me repeat it several times. Turns out team SOR does not have to even try to bet Stealhead because well Stealhead are all going to have to run the bike course after there bikes are stolen.
2007-06-28 9:02 AM
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chirunner134 - 2007-06-28 9:45 AM  Turns out team SOR does not have to even try to bet Stealhead because well Stealhead are all going to have to run the bike course after there bikes are stolen.

Yet Sadly, Team Steelhead's bike splits will STILL be faster than SOR's.



2007-06-29 12:29 PM
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I know its late notice, but this just got organized.  Myself and some Triple Threat (South Bend based Tri-club) members are meeting at Steelhead race site tomorrow morning (6/30) to ride the course.  Meeting at Jean Klock Park at 8:30am and departing by 9:00.  All are welcome.  There should be 2-3 different pace groups.  Also, some are planning to run 4-6 miles of the course immediately following ride.
2007-06-29 5:44 PM
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A group of us from the Rockford, IL area plan on doing a group swim and run on Friday 7/13. We will arrive at North Beach in Racine about 9AM and start are swim about 9:15. We plan on swimming for 30 to 45 mins and then start our run about 10ish. We will do one loop of the SOR run course. Everyone is welcome to join us for this day of training (even you Steelhead people).
2007-07-06 8:49 AM
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Random question for my fellow Team Steelhead types:

Is anyone coming from East PA and would be willing to take my bike with them back so I can get it the following weekend.

Basically, I'm doing Steelman Olympic Triathlon in the Lehigh Valley Area on the 12th and would like to not have to ship my bike up there. 

Thanks!

2007-07-16 8:51 PM
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COME ON FOLKS, WE NEED A SCORING SYSTEM FINALIZED!!!!


Just days from the SOR swan song and we all know they will doctor the tallys in their favor however they can so we need a system in place this week!!!
2007-07-16 8:54 PM
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Shermbelle - 2007-07-16 8:51 PM

COME ON FOLKS, WE NEED A SCORING SYSTEM FINALIZED!!!!


Just days from the SOR swan song and we all know they will doctor the tallys in their favor however they can so we need a system in place this week!!!


how about this.

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2007-07-18 11:18 AM
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OK - realizing that there was some good debate on what the scoring system should be, and also realizing that nobody has time to go back and look at the pros/cons of each, and finally realizing that there is no perfect system.  I say we go with the average of all the participants, subtracting the fastest/slowest score for each team.  I would suggest maybe subtracting more, but that seems to be a good sampling.  And no arguments about every score not counting, b/c they will (i.e. if you are the fastest then you allow the 2nd fastest time to count, as opposed to it not counting if you weren't there).

I will put together a spreadsheet of all the SOR racers, and someone from steelhead should do the same.  You guys should know the time to beat by the time your race comes along so that should be fun for you.  Of course, until you see how low it really is (couldn't be too serious for too long).

Since DNFs are always a possibility, I say we just drop those out.  No way to really figure it out, and if someone has trained for an HIM, a DNF is usually an injury, equipment, weather, or something we can't control....

So, there it is.  Lets just do it and have fun!

2007-07-18 11:46 AM
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I think that's a great way to doing it.  But I think we should add some bonus time (or rather take off) for a PR.  Let's say 2 min off of your time (in the averaging) if you PR.
2007-07-18 12:02 PM
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Marvarnett - 2007-07-18 11:46 AM I think that's a great way to doing it.  But I think we should add some bonus time (or rather take off) for a PR.  Let's say 2 min off of your time (in the averaging) if you PR.

Can't do that as there are too many of us doing it for the first time.  We'll all PR.  It will come down to a battle of who has the most first timers.

Schmize - I can't believe you want my time to be dropped so badly.  Just kidding.  I like your scoring system too.  Oh, and the fact that you will do the work.    I sent you the spreadsheet I put together.  I have also sent it to birkierunner so you too can fight over who does the labor.  In fact, you'll probably both have time to figure it out waiting for me to finish on Sunday. 

2007-07-19 7:09 PM
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Scoring system figured, now it is GAME ON!!!

Sunday the bar will be set and 3 weeks later destroyed
2007-07-19 7:37 PM
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schmize - 2007-07-18 11:18 AM

subtracting the fastest/slowest score for each team.  

And no arguments about every score not counting,

b/c they will (i.e. if you are the fastest then you allow the 2nd fastest time to count, as opposed to it not counting if you weren't there).

I don't understand the logic and the rationale/desire for dropping fastest/slowest



2007-07-19 8:01 PM
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because I am going to be really really slow
2007-07-20 9:59 AM
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Birkierunner - 2007-07-19 7:37 PM
schmize - 2007-07-18 11:18 AM

subtracting the fastest/slowest score for each team.  

And no arguments about every score not counting,

b/c they will (i.e. if you are the fastest then you allow the 2nd fastest time to count, as opposed to it not counting if you weren't there).

I don't understand the logic and the rationale/desire for dropping fastest/slowest

Of course you'd ask that.   I would too if I were our fastest and my time was going to be "dropped" (assuming the race goes as expected for all of us).  My guess would be that it takes out any extremes either way for either team so that we get a more representative average.  Works for me, but at this point I couldn't care less about this challenge.  I'm so stoked for this weekend and meeting everyone and doing this race that this challenge is way low on my radar screen. 

2007-07-20 10:06 AM
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chirunner134 - 2007-07-19 8:01 PM

because I am going to be really really slow


Seriously though if I am 3 minutes slower on the bike at Racine I do not get to move on. Why oh why did I bother signing up Cylesdale? I can not win either way. non Cylesdale gives me 18 more minutes.
2007-07-20 10:10 AM
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Okay, apparently training has killed most of my working brain cells....

I can't find the info re: wave start times and cut off times anywhere on the website.  would someone be kind enough to post a link for me?

Thank you oh-so-much in advance....

2007-07-20 10:29 AM
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StartingToTri - 2007-07-20 10:10 AM

I can't find the info re: wave start times and cut off times anywhere on the website.  would someone be kind enough to post a link for me?

http://2007.spiritofracinetri.com/pdf/2007SORT_Info_Packet.doc



2007-07-20 6:17 PM
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Goodluck to all you SOR folks- you sure are going to need it!!! Have a blast, and just remember that in 2 weeks, team Steelhead is going to show you what it is really like to race
2007-08-08 8:02 AM
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I won't have time to devote to scoring this rivalry and I'm not even sure what the scoring system ended up being.  Volunteers?
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