Ironman Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 97)

Hoooo! Those photos make me wish I had a swim scheduled for today! Here are some of my favorites from last year:

The Pros go off with us age groupers queuing up right behind them: On your mark....

BOOOOOOOOOM!

GOOOOOOOO!

so here's a question... I have seen this on many pictures of people basically going the whole out distance on the inside of the buoys... do the kayakers help them get back on the correct side or do they let these people keep on the inside? Obviously this is a shorter route than if you start to the right... if they allow these people to stay to the inside what keeps more people from doing so?

And from the pics it is not just a few... there are more than several.

From what I have heard and saw.  they will let you go inside but they make you go around the orange buoys at the ends.  Though I'm sure during the meetings they tell you to stay on the outside.  I'm suprised as well that more people don't move to the left more. 

From what I saw last year and from what people have written in their RR, you can swim on the inside of the bouys as long as when you get to the turns you go around the last bouy so that you are for sure going the same distance. They have kayakers out there to make sure they all go around that last bouy which i imagine would be insanely hard to do if you are on the inside of it already...

Glad to hear everyone's training is going well. 

I was scheduled to go up to LP next week for the Fireman Ironman Training Camp, but will not be able to make it.  (2 trips up to LP from Florida within 6 weeks isn't going to work).  I would hate for it to go to waste and since many of you live nearby I would be happy to transfer it over to you.  (Maybe you can buy me beer after the race   )  I have pasted a link to the info below.  If you are interested message me. 

http://www.firemanironman.com/

X2.  In most triathlons you can swim on either side of the sight-line bouys but you MUST always go around the outside of the Corner bouys. 

DC is correct. At IMLP (as in many courses) there are two types of buoys: course markers (for sighting) and turn buoys. You have to go around the outside of the turn buoys, but you can swim on either side of the course markers unless specifically prohibited from doing so. In WTC races this will be spelled out in the athlete guide. This rule is usually employed when there is a true "out-and-back" course. LP is actually a long skinny box. At IMLP if you get too far to the inside though the kayakers WILL herd you back toward the cable to ensure that you do not collide with swimmers going in the opposite direction. As noted above, making the turn from the inside can be pretty rough on the outbound legs, but from my single experience the inside is a great place to be on both inbound legs.

But shhhhhhhhh! Don't tell anybody else...

TankBoy - 2012-06-08 2:52 PM DOH! I just KNEW I shouldn't have posted that last photo - now you all know my "secret" swim strategy!

DC is correct. At IMLP (as in many courses) there are two types of buoys: course markers (for sighting) and turn buoys. You have to go around the outside of the turn buoys, but you can swim on either side of the course markers unless specifically prohibited from doing so. In WTC races this will be spelled out in the athlete guide. This rule is usually employed when there is a true "out-and-back" course. LP is actually a long skinny box. At IMLP if you get too far to the inside though the kayakers WILL herd you back toward the cable to ensure that you do not collide with swimmers going in the opposite direction. As noted above, making the turn from the inside can be pretty rough on the outbound legs, but from my single experience the inside is a great place to be on both inbound legs.

But shhhhhhhhh! Don't tell anybody else...

Now if I'll just be able to keep on your feet, I'll be home free

We always share bike porn, how about a little shoe porn instead:

Probably just about my last new thing before Lake Placid - I just got a new pair of Sidi T3s with the new integrated speedplay sole which allows you to get rid of the adapter plate and thus moves the shoe a little closer to the spindle. It also saves a WHOPPING 11g per shoe (almost 1/2 of gel packet for the pair!) So I should be killing it up the climbs from now on. I went in to my fitter this morning to check my fit with them - we dropped the seat on my road bike by a couple of mm but interestingly he elected to leave the tri bike the same. I'll have an easy 1.5 hour bike (after OWS) with the wife tomorrow to break them in a little, then a 4 hour/1:45 brick in the rain on Sunday that should completely ruin that fancy white patent leather finish.

While I was there I also picked up several cases of premixed Perform at half price - i guess it is about time to start drinking that yucky stuff in training. Still trying to decide on my marathon shoes - Nike quit making my favorites (of course) so now I am trying a couple of alternatives. The brick this weekend should help me decide. hmmmm - New bike shoes AND new running shoes this weekend. I'll let you know if that is a good idea or not...

Anybody else changing anything up in the last 6 weeks or are you all dialed in?

JMoney - 2012-06-08 4:25 PM

TankBoy - 2012-06-08 2:52 PM DOH! I just KNEW I shouldn't have posted that last photo - now you all know my "secret" swim strategy!

DC is correct. At IMLP (as in many courses) there are two types of buoys: course markers (for sighting) and turn buoys. You have to go around the outside of the turn buoys, but you can swim on either side of the course markers unless specifically prohibited from doing so. In WTC races this will be spelled out in the athlete guide. This rule is usually employed when there is a true "out-and-back" course. LP is actually a long skinny box. At IMLP if you get too far to the inside though the kayakers WILL herd you back toward the cable to ensure that you do not collide with swimmers going in the opposite direction. As noted above, making the turn from the inside can be pretty rough on the outbound legs, but from my single experience the inside is a great place to be on both inbound legs.

But shhhhhhhhh! Don't tell anybody else...

Now if I'll just be able to keep on your feet, I'll be home free

Ha, Jason - now that is funny! With the yardage you have been putting up this year I was planning on drafting off you! And you know DC is gonna try to sneak over there... maybe we can just jump on his feet and form up the BT Express...? That's it - I am starting to practice my swim drafting TOMORROW.

Really, even if you start way out to the right and swim an angle all the way to the first turn, the math would equate to only a little bit extra and you have clean water.  There is a lot of bumping along the buoy line because of the guide rope underneath.

If you use the Pythagoreum Theorum, and guesstimating that the long side of the swim is 900m long, and you start 100m over to the right and swim to the turn, you only add about 6m. 

Oh, you and your looney a²+b²=c² "math" rigmarole. Everyone knows the silver cable is magical. And magic always beats "math" and "science." sheesh.

Sorry.  I had to eat.  There was no stopping me from sustenance after 110 mile ride and 5 mile run today.   I swam yesterday and with the storm coming I wasnt swimming. 

Oh, I stayed on the cable the two times I've raced there.  You just have to know you're going to be beat up.  And if you're not close to the cable...maybe 4-6 swimmer's widths, you might as well be out in clearer water.

Also... DON'T freakin' stop at the turns.  Jeez...last time I raced there, people just piled up because the people who can't turn and swim were all bobbing in the water, saying 'Yay, we made the first turn' and not swimming.  Get out of the way!

Thank you for this. I love it. It is my new mantra. Hehe. Dead here after 5 hours on the bike and 30 minute run one week after a half IM. Nothing is getting done today!!