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2013-01-03 12:09 PM

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Subject: Yanti's Swim Tip 2013 #1 - Competition Doggypaddle

These are just fun and possibly even useful swim-related doggerel that I'll post from time to time. Feel free to question, comment, criticize, and even try.

This is a drill I love to do called Competition Doggypaddle (it exists in various other forms in swim books and 'Net swim stuff). It's very similar to head-up freestyle, but with an underwater recovery.

What Competition Doggypaddle Is Good For
- swim-specific strength and core training
- good catch and early vertical forearm--really scooping and pushing back
- practicing high-elbow position underwater (it's nearly impossible to do this drill with straight arms)
- the in-water recovery teaches you to feel for most efficient hand entry into water
- keeps shoulders level (while the body rotates in freestyle, the shoulders should not dip deeply into the water on their side)

I also sometimes use it to help teach a 2-beat kick, but that's not in this video and I will save that for another time to specifically focus on it.

Here's the underwater video of what Competition Doggypaddle should look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwN4HnrKzi8

Arms are underwater at all time. Front arm "spears" through the water horizontally; catch is initiated with the wrist dropping and fingers pointing toward bottom of pool; elbow moves above wrist and fingertips, remaining high while pulling a large volume of water back.

Here's the above water video of what Competition Doggypaddle should look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of8dJ6sOMnY

Panting and sound effects are optional.

A variation is to do this with head-down in neutral swimming position (basically just free with an underwater recovery, E. Maglischo recommends this for body position and being able to really observe your stroke underwater). It then becomes less effective for strength work, though.

This is tough stuff, so if you want to incorporate it into a workout, do it halfway down the pool, then switch to regular freestyle and incorporate the quick catch / early vertical forearm aspects. Perhaps 4x25 this way. Swimmers who just want to do it as a strengthening drill / part of workout could do 4x25 straight competition doggypaddle.



2013-01-03 1:12 PM
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I thought I invented that! For about three weeks when I was injured, this was the only version of "freestyle" I could handle. I also invented, or thought I invented, a version for fly! (Underwater doggy-fly?)
2013-01-03 1:30 PM
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Hot Runner - 2013-01-04 3:12 AM I thought I invented that! For about three weeks when I was injured, this was the only version of "freestyle" I could handle. I also invented, or thought I invented, a version for fly! (Underwater doggy-fly?)

^^^ breaststroke with a pull-buoy

But dang I sure like the sound of Underwater Doggy-Fly.

I might video the "Lazy Girls Flip Turn" sometime ... you know, the kind we do where you go into the wall taking a breath, arm forward, flip (on your side, pretty much) and can exit the wall taking a breath because you're on your side

I'm not convinced that it's slower than a regular well-executed flip turn (head forward, arms back, push off on back and twist to front during streamline) in any significant training way.

2013-01-03 1:41 PM
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Love the vid!  I'm guessing it could perhaps be a good drill with a snorkel so you can keep your head in the water and really pay attention to form?
2013-01-03 1:45 PM
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thebigb - 2013-01-04 3:41 AM Love the vid!  I'm guessing it could perhaps be a good drill with a snorkel so you can keep your head in the water and really pay attention to form?

That would be the idea of doing it with head down in water, yes, and if you use a snorkel that could help.

I just like the canine aspect and making sound effects.

2013-01-03 1:52 PM
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TriAya - 2013-01-03 12:45 PM

thebigb - 2013-01-04 3:41 AM Love the vid!  I'm guessing it could perhaps be a good drill with a snorkel so you can keep your head in the water and really pay attention to form?

That would be the idea of doing it with head down in water, yes, and if you use a snorkel that could help.

I just like the canine aspect and making sound effects.

No lifting a leg on the pool deck!



2013-01-03 1:53 PM
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thebigb - 2013-01-04 3:52 AM
TriAya - 2013-01-03 12:45 PM

thebigb - 2013-01-04 3:41 AM Love the vid!  I'm guessing it could perhaps be a good drill with a snorkel so you can keep your head in the water and really pay attention to form?

That would be the idea of doing it with head down in water, yes, and if you use a snorkel that could help.

I just like the canine aspect and making sound effects.

No lifting a leg on the pool deck!

Dude, you're gross. That's what the pool's for

2013-01-03 2:01 PM
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There is a person at my pool that always swims the Trudgen stroke. Interesting to see different strokes.
2013-01-03 2:05 PM
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TriAya - 2013-01-03 12:53 PM
thebigb - 2013-01-04 3:52 AM
TriAya - 2013-01-03 12:45 PM

thebigb - 2013-01-04 3:41 AM Love the vid!  I'm guessing it could perhaps be a good drill with a snorkel so you can keep your head in the water and really pay attention to form?

That would be the idea of doing it with head down in water, yes, and if you use a snorkel that could help.

I just like the canine aspect and making sound effects.

No lifting a leg on the pool deck!

Dude, you're gross. That's what the pool's for

Funny because just this morning as I finally got back to the pool I show up, pay, change, hit the bathroom to pee and as I'm peeing I think, "most people probably don't bother with this step".  

2013-01-03 2:19 PM
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I'm just here to watch the underwater camera footage of the hottest pengy-platty in BT!
2013-01-03 2:22 PM
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Sidney Porter - 2013-01-03 2:01 PM There is a person at my pool that always swims the Trudgen stroke. Interesting to see different strokes.

 

I barely remember that stroke.  I think it was mentioned in Live Saving courses back in the 70's...



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