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2008-03-27 2:37 PM
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Renee - 2008-03-27 11:08 AM

I think for cooking, I might go with gas.


Renee -

I'd rather not burn anything to get my heating needs.


Wouldn't that be considered a heating need? What will you do with the gas if not burn it?

I think living off the grid would be so awesome!


2008-03-27 3:01 PM
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I just made myself a cool hat out of aluminum foil. Take that CIA!!!!
2008-03-27 3:06 PM
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ACGRAY22 - 2008-03-27 3:01 PM I just made myself a cool hat out of aluminum foil. Take that CIA!!!!

But did you make your own foil.....that's how they get into your head, you know....the aluminum foil conspiracy is after you, man....don't wear the shiny side against your head.

Seriously, though, being responsible for your own needs is, I think, a really cool goal, particularly when we are in a society that makes us so dependent on others from far away for some pretty basic needs.

 

2008-03-27 3:20 PM
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ride_like_u_stole_it - 2008-03-27 1:06 PM

ACGRAY22 - 2008-03-27 3:01 PM I just made myself a cool hat out of aluminum foil. Take that CIA!!!!

But did you make your own foil.....that's how they get into your head, you know....the aluminum foil conspiracy is after you, man....don't wear the shiny side against your head.

Seriously, though, being responsible for your own needs is, I think, a really cool goal, particularly when we are in a society that makes us so dependent on others from far away for some pretty basic needs.

 



I agree, I would like to be as self sufficiant as possible. I've been wanting to make a joke about foil on my head for a while now though so I had to jump on the opportunity
2008-03-27 3:23 PM
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ACGRAY22 - 2008-03-27 3:20 PM
ride_like_u_stole_it - 2008-03-27 1:06 PM

ACGRAY22 - 2008-03-27 3:01 PM I just made myself a cool hat out of aluminum foil. Take that CIA!!!!

But did you make your own foil.....that's how they get into your head, you know....the aluminum foil conspiracy is after you, man....don't wear the shiny side against your head.

Seriously, though, being responsible for your own needs is, I think, a really cool goal, particularly when we are in a society that makes us so dependent on others from far away for some pretty basic needs.

 

I agree, I would like to be as self sufficiant as possible. I've been wanting to make a joke about foil on my head for a while now though so I had to jump on the opportunity

You'll need this, then.





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2008-03-27 3:34 PM
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You might check out solar shingles... each shingle is its own solar cell and it ties into you electrical system... given that you are thinking NC, your solar rating (amount sun shines to amount it's not) might be worth checking into that.  AND as someone mentioned, you can tie into the grid and pump money back into it and help offset that initial higher cost...

-Brian 



2008-03-27 6:18 PM
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These folks did it.  Sorry - have to compress the photo later.

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2008-03-27 6:24 PM
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Opus - 2008-03-27 10:31 AM  Water would be taken from the lake. 

Make sure you have a good antidote for Giardia.

 



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2008-03-27 6:30 PM
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My husband is a homebuilder and did two 2700 sq ft off-grid homes last year.  They were both in a neighborhood outside of Steamboat Springs, CO where there are a bunch of people living off-grid.  "Standard" practice for a fulltime home that is off-grid is to use solar panels (roof-mounted or standalone) for power with a backup generator running on propane.  The people who live in these houses are mostly year-round residents, so the backup generator is a necessity.  The propane used to power the generator is also used for the hot water heater, forced air heat (though most have a wood burning or pellet stove to provide the bulk of heating in winter - more efficient), and stove.  Water is from a well that is also powered by the solar system.  Typical cost of a solar system + batteries + generator to power a 2,000 sq ft house is $20-25,000. 

The main thing we've seen as people move into these houses is that there is a big adjustment to living off grid. When you're running a solar system, you can drain your batteries very quickly if you have large ghost loads (i.e. things plugged in that are "off" but still drawing power for clocks, lights, etc - like a TV or microwave).  In the summer, the biggest power draw is the refrigerator, so it pays to do research into efficiency and size - for instance, the automatic icemake is a big power draw - kind of a no no.  Obviously regular light bulbs are a no-no - flourescents are necessary.

Anyhow, I'm rambling and I don't know if any of this is useful.  PM me if you want more info.  There's good magazine about solar power - I think it's called "Solar Living" or something. 

2008-03-27 6:33 PM
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Stacers - 2008-03-27 7:30 PM

My husband is a homebuilder and did two 2700 sq ft off-grid homes last year... 

Thank you! This is very helpful information.

2008-03-27 6:38 PM
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I have friends who live in rural New Hampshire. The call themselves "Homesteaders". No electricty, no running water. They do have a phone hookup in case of emergency. Its really incredible how they live and I do envy part of their lifestyle. He is a master carpenter/architect and she is an artist. In the spring they harvest sap and create maple syrup for income. The sap house, btw, is INCREDIBLE!

They recently built a new house on their 100 acres of land, all of the wood was cut and milled on site.

The really cool thing is that they have an ice house, which is a super insulated house filled with large blocks of ice, which was harvested the previous winter from the local lake during an annual ice harvest.

They made their own "icebox" made out of oak cut down from their land is lined with copper sheating for temperature conductivity. They garden all of their vegetables and "put" them up for the winter.

Pretty incredible really. I envy them because I grew up in the same rural area, and now as a city boy, I yearn to get back to my roots.


2008-03-27 6:52 PM
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One of the neighbors here had their floors made from pine milled from the trees that were standing on their lot. Their house smells soooooooo good.

Your friend's life sounds pretty awesome.

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