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2008-08-20 8:47 AM

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How much does a wetsuit help in swim performance. Throw protection from the cold out the window - how much easier does it make a swim. I will be swimming 500m as part of a sprint next weekend. I haven't been swimming because I wasn't expecting to compete in any swimming events this Summer or Fall, but now I am going to compete. Looking for any advantage I can get.


2008-08-20 8:49 AM
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The best I have heard it put is that it is like swimming down hill.
2008-08-20 10:36 AM
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Thanks for asking this question!  I'm wondering about the wetsuit more so because I have been trying to battle my open water fear.  I've been swimming in both pool and pond but last weekend had to swim with a noodle just to complete the pond... it was like swimming in mud... so hard.  Anyway, I feel like maybe it's a good idea to get a wetsuit to make the swim "easier" and if I do have any fear of sinking, I physically won't be able to with that wetsuit.  (Or rather, it'll be really hard.)
2008-08-20 10:45 AM
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I cut about 4 minutes off my 500m time with a sleevless suit. It does make me faster but even more it helps me save the legs for the bike and run. If water temps are right, use one if you can.
2008-08-20 10:46 AM
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It's true--I don't think it's physically possible to sink in a wetsuit, which will do wonders for your confidence level. When I swim in a wetsuit it feels like all parts (head, shoulders, legs) are just skimming the surface.
2008-08-20 11:46 AM
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A wetsuit will make the swim easier for almost everyone using one. From what I have seen and heard a wetsuit will make you 4-10 seconds faster per 100. New swimmers generally get more time benefit more than experienced swimmers - an effecients swimmer is likely to get 4-6 seconds faster per 100, an ineffecient swimmer 8-10 seconds per 100.



2008-08-20 11:59 AM
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If you've never swam in a wetsuit you may want to try it out a couple times before your race.  I get a choking sensation from mine until I swim in it a couple times to get used to it. Made the mistake of doing my first wetsuit swim this season in a race and had a horrible swim because of the "I can't breathe" feeling of the tight wetsuit neck.  Subsequent swims in the wetsuit have been fine and it does make swimming easier.
2008-08-20 12:05 PM
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The main benefit is it floats your legs so you are more horizontal in the water and closer to the surface,  which makes you more stream line.  You also don't need to kick as hard to stay horizontal.  If you are an experienced swimmer then it might not be as much of an advantage in a short race because it will add to your T1 time to take it off.

2008-08-20 12:17 PM
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Agree with doc above.. I get about 12 seconds per 100m .. others I know get about 6 seconds per hundred... They swam in college.. I am a swim newbie .. for me w/o wetsuit about 1:54/100m over 500m ..w/ wetsuit  1:42/100m over 500m
2008-08-20 12:41 PM
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Quite simply it change my swim from a chore to a delight. I feel like a sea ottar out there in one. It does wonders for your confidence.

 I'd use one in 85 degree water of they'd let me.

2008-08-20 1:18 PM
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acvaut - 2008-08-20 10:36 AM Thanks for asking this question!  I'm wondering about the wetsuit more so because I have been trying to battle my open water fear.  I've been swimming in both pool and pond but last weekend had to swim with a noodle just to complete the pond... it was like swimming in mud... so hard.  Anyway, I feel like maybe it's a good idea to get a wetsuit to make the swim "easier" and if I do have any fear of sinking, I physically won't be able to with that wetsuit(Or rather, it'll be really hard.)[/QUOTE

Do you have this feeling and fear in a pool as well or is it just OWS?   To clarify, are you confident and a good swimmer with an efficient stroke in the pool? 



2008-08-20 1:59 PM
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cathyd - 2008-08-20 12:59 PM If you've never swam in a wetsuit you may want to try it out a couple times before your race. I get a choking sensation from mine until I swim in it a couple times to get used to it. Made the mistake of doing my first wetsuit swim this season in a race and had a horrible swim because of the "I can't breathe" feeling of the tight wetsuit neck. Subsequent swims in the wetsuit have been fine and it does make swimming easier.

X2   ..definitely swim in it before you race.   ..if you're thinking of buying one, make sure you try a few of them on (they all seem to fit differently).  The tight/breathing sensation does go away with time.  Make sure you get "body glide" (body/anti-chafing lube).  In the end, it really helps you float and swim. 

Check out this wetsuit review video from a first time wetsuit wearer: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1519  

Good video for general wetsuit info...

 Best of luck!  -mike

2008-08-20 3:49 PM
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Is anybody using SURF style wetsuits. I have a 3/2 that i use for surfing.  Not sure I want to go out and buy a tri specific wetsuit. I'm only doing sprints right now...but would like to start doing some OLY's next year.
2008-08-20 6:30 PM
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jnutterjr - 2008-08-20 1:49 PM

Is anybody using SURF style wetsuits. I have a 3/2 that i use for surfing.  Not sure I want to go out and buy a tri specific wetsuit. I'm only doing sprints right now...but would like to start doing some OLY's next year.


Have you already been using your surfing suit? If you're ok with it, then why not, though I don't think it has the same speed advantages as a tri suit.

If you haven't tried it yet i can share my experience... I was in the same boat as you and tried it out for a practice swim -- I personally wouldn't recommend it. I was miserable. They are meant for two different activities and I could tell a big difference. Surfing suits let a fair amount of water in, which you don't notice when paddling on a board or body boarding etc... it's much harder to swim with all that sloshing around. Also the neck/arms/crotch area fit very differently, they just aren't made for head down "long" distance swimming.

I still haven't bought a wetsuit yet but have rented them from wetsuitrental.com you can try them out and decide what you want to buy before committing the $$$. If you still want to use your surfing suit - take it out for a test drive - I'm infinitely glad that I did so I had time to rent one before my first race. Just my opinion/experience -- good luck!


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The fit of a surf suit can tire you becuase of tightness around the shoulders. Try it out, I've seen some people do just fine in one. Ditto on the extra water floating around inside.

2008-08-21 2:56 AM
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I did a 2.8km swim in a 2mm Quicksilver summer suit (short arms and legs). Got through it fine (a bit tired maybe) so didn't think about it. Did a 1/2 IM with it - got me through fine.

BlueSeventy were having a clearance sale here in NZ so I went to try on an entry level suit and somehow got talked up to the top model. Luckily it was 50% off because OH MY GOD it felt so good. Tight yes but very streamlined. Raising my arms in the shop it felt like they were spring loaded. Can't wait to try it out in the water.

So yes, just about any old wetsuit will do, but I reckon one that's made for swimming will make the thing a whole lot more fun and a whole lot easier.

Gerrard 



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Great advice!!!!!  Thanks I havent tried swimming in it yet. But I have a tri in Maine late Sept so I have to use one. I'll try it out before hand for sure. thanks for the info.
2008-08-21 10:03 AM
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2008-08-21 10:21 AM
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katybug34 - 2008-08-21 11:03 AM How would this suit be for a tri? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OEPAXO

See blondniks post a few up.  I have this same suit you are asking about and had the same exact experince with it as he did.  It was ok, but I was really tired in the shoulders and said this isnt supposed to be like this.  the water comming in the back felt like I was swimming w/ and anchor or parachute.  Short swims are ok, or paddling on a board, but no swim benefit other than my core was warm. 

So I'm renting a full suit to see the difference for  myself (probably from F2R, longer rental period and good reviews from fellow clydes).  I will still use the BG suit I have for when I body surf and wakeboard in the cold Atlantic and mountain waters of Cape Cod, NH and Maine, but not for a tri. 

2008-08-21 10:34 AM
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The problem I am having is sizing. I am 6'7" and around 255. I can't find a suit that is big enough. I don't care how much it costs, I just want one big enough. The Body Glove was the only one I could find in the correct size. Any suggestions?
2008-08-22 8:23 AM
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If cost is not a factor, then look specifically at the tri-suites for the best buoyancy and swim factors:

- orca (expensive, but I hear these are awesome) - http://www.orca.com/
- pro-motion suit: http://www.wetsuit.com/web/men_sizing.cfm
- fit2race : http://www.f2r.com

..in most cases the size chart only goes up to 6'-6" ..but also, I believe the wet suit leg is supposed to come somewhere between your ankle and knee (mid-calf) - so you may have some flexibility in the height.. try to find something that will fit your chest size.

- best of luck, Mike

..PS - worst case, call the company and explain your measurements - they may have insight as to which suit would fit..  -cheers. 



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2008-08-22 9:45 AM
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OK. This is the one I ended up ordering yesterday:

http://www.f2r.com/index.php?action1=CustomerProductDescription&c_P...

Any experience with these suits?
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