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2008-08-27 1:13 PM

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Subject: Burnt out
I'm in the final weeks training for Muskoka 70.3 and I'm tired, hungry and just not able to get excited about doing a full next year. That was always the plan but after our first 1/2 iron distance in August my husband and I just found it so hard that it was difficult to consider twice the distance. As well the training hours for the current distance are getting to us - we don't feel like we've had much of a summer.

Anyone have some perspective on this.


2008-08-27 1:32 PM
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I know exactly how you feel. Back in May when I was still in base mode from IMKY this weekend, i thought to myself "man how am I going to be able to do this race" but alot of time has gone by, and Im really fit and have 110% confindence in myself.

There is going to be days where you dont want to train, and I've been there. But normally I would just go out and get it done anyway, and always felt better afterwards. If your feeling mentally burned out take a few days off. At this point in the game, you wont loose much if any fitness and being able to take a mental break will definately help you out in the long run.

Just know that it will be worth it. A year is a looonnngg time. you will suprise yourself how fit you become if you just stay steady and consistant. Hnag in there. It will all be worth it.

Good luck.

Stay positive and know what your doing is a great thing
2008-08-27 1:54 PM
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Ditto the above. Everyone goes through this, so it is ok to feel this way. I am in the midst of my volume increase for IMFL this Fall and am feeling great, but just a couple months ago after finishing a couple HIM's I remember saying to myself at the end "there is no frigggin' way I can go twice this distance" (even though I have a couple times before). Somehow you just get it done, so don't worry about the distance, it will be fine.

As for training motivation, break up the routine a little. I, like most I suppose, like the stability a "routine" can provide. You know, long swim Saturday, long bike Sunday........ Try changing it up a bit on purpose. When I get the ho hum's from training I mix in some really different stuff my training plan doesn't call for. For instance I do a bike-OWS-bike workout where I bike to a lake, do an open water swim and bike back. It's about a 4 hour workout and it adds something new. Once I even did a bike-run-bike-run (a double brick I guess).

Just some suggestions, but don't stop whatever you do, you will hate yourself later. The feeling you get from knowing you are an "IRONMAN" will be worth it 100 fold in the end!

Best of luck.
2008-08-27 3:14 PM
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Thanks for the advice - I like the idea of biking to a lake and going for a swim. The training is so rigid that it seems like the riding isn't fun anymore. We should go and have some fun this weekend with it.

2008-08-27 3:17 PM
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All Ironman athletes know that the race is the easy part.  It's the training that is the hard part...that's what makes the Ironman such an amazing experience.

Keep on keepin' on and know that you are not alone.

Hey, I'm TOTALLY burned out for my 2 races this year and found it VERY hard to plug through and even now during my taper I don't feel like working out, but i know that I'll be totally psyched to cross those finish lines and it will all be worth it....but I know that thought doesn't help much.

One thing you may want to consider is not having a structured training plan for an IM for an entire year.  that's too long for anyone and you'll most likely get burned out right before you peak weeks....NOT when you can afford to skip workouts.

so maybe the thing to do is do some "unstructured" training for the first 3 months perhaps, then get with a coach or whatever you're going to do for the remaining 9 months.

2008-08-27 4:59 PM
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I agree with Steve that it is hard to have a training plan all the time. I've had one more or less for 4 years with a couple weeks a year of down time or free time.

In a year I typically take two breaks one sort of mid season just because I feel burnt out and need to get away and another at the end of the season after I'm done racing when I may take 1 week off of everything then 2-3 weeks of light stuff only if I want to and ideally no s/b/r but that is hard for me to get away.

I can tell when I'm fried and just need some off time or flexibility, and I discuss it with my coach and I take a few days off. What typically happens is I just don't want to do my training, it feels like a grind, and sometimes I just feel off and say I'm suppose to run at a higher HR I just can't get it up and don't want to either.

When I would get my new plan from my coach for the last 2 months before IM, I'd look at some days or weeks and think how am I going to do that? It helps to break it down and look at what you need to do that day or maybe the next and just do the workout.

When I finished my first HIM last year having already registered for IMLP, my thought was how the heck could I do an IM as HIM was so difficult. Funny after my IM I felt it was easier than my HIM and I thought about why. HIM I had a bad bike accident and wasn't able to build smoothly to it, I didn't taper as much and I wasn't as prepared. IM my build and taper was better and smoother and racing was easier...weather was better for me. HIM it was NJ in Oct and 92 and humid..not great for me and my IM it was 60's and rained the whole day..much better for me. 

Now I'd suggest making a list of why you want to do an IM. Think about it and consider if those reasons are enough to help keep you motivated to train when you might  not want to or when it is raining or when you'd rather be doing something else. If your reasons are deep enough and important to you, you will find the motivation to keep training. I was afraid I couldn't do it so I wanted to do all training scheduled so I would be prepared as possible.

It is an amazing journey..... 



2008-08-27 10:30 PM
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I too am tired hungry and un-excited, even about the race coming up on Sept 13 (grand columbian). So tired, so hungry. I have one more tough workout this weekend and that is it. If I had to do another tough one I would be done. Right now I dont even want to ride my bike to work. I would not say that I am sick of the whole thing but sure as hell looking forward to getting to the race and getting it over with, which I know is a horrible thing to say.

I am sure the whole thing will pass.

Regarding the missing summer thing, I feel the same way. But at the same time I set a goal and am looking to achieve it, so I made a sacrifice.
2008-08-27 11:34 PM
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I get ya,  I am training for my second IM this year, about 12 weeks left.  THis weekend we are going to the mountains.  At first I was stressed about missing the weekend bike, but then realized I could get some extra in this week and just go up and enjoy the time.   I will still run and swim, but won't be on the bike for 5 hours, like I've done before up there.

Everyone goes through this.  You're not racing for money, just for fun right?  A few days off isn't going to kill you.

2008-08-28 7:53 AM
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Hang in there, for me its normal the way you feel.

When I am in the final weeks/build phase before my taper I am almost to the point of being trashed, and wanting to quit. Then I go to the race, see the others, get the buzz, finish the race and cant wait to get back at it.

I take 3 months a year off with no structured training, every year.

I find that when I commit to the IM or 1/2 IM distance ( I have 3 kids, full time job with travel etc.) it is what all my free time will be spent doing, all of it.

It is a sacrifice, I am in my 8th year of Tri's., heading to IMFL for my 5th IM, and I can see the end of the long distance races in a few years.

I dont think we do a good job of traing for the emotional part of triathlon, I am not a expert or doctor, but what I hear from you is normal for me, but I use the 48 hour rule, if I am dreading a race or big workout after 2 days off, I change plans.

Good luck, it can become a burdensome lifestyle or a second job, not just a hobby or for fun it you let.

Remember why you started, is that why you do it now, and that its OK to change direction.
2008-08-28 9:50 AM
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Don't think about the full NEXT YEAR. That is a year away.

As you get to the end of a extended amount of training ... you are tired... and you want a break. You will get one after your 70.3.

Once you do the 70.3... then take a month or two off of planned training. Instead, do what you feel like doing... and don't have a "I have to go X amount of miles or for X amount of time"... just go do what you WANT to do.

Then you can start on your full training. BUT stop thinking about that for now. That is not what you should be focused on.
2008-08-28 11:59 AM
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Thanks everyone, skipped our swim last night and did some gardening. I feel much better already. It's almost as having the permission to miss a workout takes the pressure off. We also decided to plan a couple of fun rides for the weekend rather than worrying about getting enough hills training in and pushing our speed. We bought cyclo cross bikes this spring for fun riding on unpaved country roads and that's what we are going to do.

My husband and I got into this to improve our health so we could be active recreationally so we should take advantage of that conditioning to go out and play. I've got to hold onto the idea that this is all just play.


2008-08-28 1:58 PM
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Millco - 2008-08-28 8:53 AM Hang in there, for me its normal the way you feel. When I am in the final weeks/build phase before my taper I am almost to the point of being trashed, and wanting to quit. Then I go to the race, see the others, get the buzz, finish the race and cant wait to get back at it.

That is a great post.  I'm 7 weeks out from Kona and I'm tired of training all the time.  But I can see the light at the end of the tunnel so I'll keep at it for a few more weeks; then taper; then race.  

2008-08-28 2:34 PM
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2008-08-28 6:57 PM
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on a somewhat related note someone asked me if I was sick. I am not sick. Just tired. Man.
2008-08-28 7:30 PM
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Thanks for posting this question. I'm 5 weeks out from Longhorn and worn out physically and mentally. Plus becoming anemic in the process of training hasn't helped. I'm actually looking forward to just being able to train for a winter marathon. Did I really just say that?
My times are slow, recover is slower and motivation is at an all time low. I keep telling myself this is a mental slump and to HTFU. Just a few more weeks until the taper and then I'll be bored to death and climbing the walls.

2008-08-29 11:20 PM
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These guys are all right on. My motivation is in the toilet. I get ready for a 2 hour bike anymore and I cringe. I spent 10 months preparing for IMLP this year (my husband did it too) so we had to squeeze in 2 of us working shift work, 2 small children, and 2 athletes training for an Ironman. I was burnt out in April. It does get better, I had to adjust my training plan to 8 workouts/week instead of 9.... or I took an extra day off..... my coach told me he'd rather see me not do the race than to be this miserable. We all get that way, that's what makes an Ironman an Ironman. Keep your chin up, the race is the best part of training (and in my opinion- the easiest).

Think of race day as a "really long, well stocked, very supportive training day"- Dave Greenfield, Elite Bicycles


2008-08-30 5:15 AM
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PennState - 2008-08-27 9:34 PM

Listen to your body and mind. Do the Muskoka race (I was registered for this but changed it for a closer one) and then take a mental and physical break.

If you still feel burnt out a month after your break, then I would listen to yourself and not push the IM next year. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN and if it's not, then you won't stay with it long term

But, right where you are currently is a common burnout time, so again re-assess a month after Muskoka

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