Nautica New York City Triathlon : Official Thread (Page 10)

mburkhart - 2009-07-26 6:43 PM

Hey BT peeps - good to see everyone out there today! Other than the early morning shower was a good race day! Hope everyone had as much fun as I did! Off to do my RR now!

Rudedog55 - 2009-07-26 6:05 PM

nice seeing the peeps i got too see!!!!  Kristin, Shawn, Michelle, Jonah!!! 

A very special thanx to Jonah..... brother thanx for staying with me for that mile and half, it was the diversion i needed, and part of the reason i finished.  Thanx Man!!!


First Oly down, Wow is all i gotta say, that is one tough race distance

my time:  2h 40m 25s  

jmk-brooklyn - 2009-07-26 8:00 PM How did I miss you? I took a couple of shortcuts across the transverse, so maybe you got past me somehow. Either that, or you were moving so fast, you were just a blur and I didn't recognize you.

drcherrybomb21 - 2009-07-24 11:55 PM I checked in today and picked up my new Garmin 310xt.  I did the underwear run tonight. Super fun!  I ran with 2 watches.  I'm a geek.

I'm #1929 and have red hair.  Anyone come say hi.  I am going back to the expo again tomorrow to shop and then checkin my bike at around 3.  Good luck to all!!!

LazyMarathoner - 2009-07-26 10:19 PM
I had a good race, set a 7 minute PR overall and set a massive 10K PR, but I felt it was overcrowded for what the course could sustain. And I was blown away by some of the negativity I incurred in the form of name calling and nasty slurs over typical race contact and mishaps. I think there were a lot of first timers who are unfortunately not representative of the sport and that's a shame. It will be interesting to see how this race goes in the future.

RtisticFX - 2009-07-27 7:55 AM
Would love to know how you like this watch.  I always wonder about satellite reception in NYC, if it is spotty or pretty consistent.  Nice shot with the naked cowboy! 

drcherrybomb21 - 2009-07-27 10:33 AM
I also found people on the bike course to be rude.  2 times screamed for me to keep to the right, except that I was passing too.  Screw them!  They are not the only ones entitled to pass.  I yelled back "I'm passing too you a-hole!"  One guy actually said sorry.

philb - 2009-07-27 11:56 AM This is one area that I don't think was dealt with very well by the briefing sessions at registration. In the session I attended there was no mention of safety / passing etiquette & rules for bike course (with the exception of keep out of the middle lane) which I was very surprised about given the amount of new to tri and new to NYC tri entrants. I know there was in the info pack, but I think it is useful to reinforce to less experienced competitors that particularly on descents there is the likelihood that you might be overtaken by someone going close to double your speed that won't be able to stop if you pull out in front of them. Equally, it should be also be reinforced to everyone that USAT rules allow you to be DQ'd for unsportsmanlike conduct, such as yelling obscenities to other competitors, whether you think they are impeding you or not. Parts of the course, particularly the northern section were very narrow for the amount of traffic, and given the wet roads made it quite dangerous at times. I personally had three near misses with people suddenly pulling out completely to the left of the lane when they were only overtaking one or two cyclists. As someone who tends to pass a fair number of people on the bike (wish I could say the same for the swim and the run), I find that it is really necessary to shout "on your left" pretty frequently during a race if you stand any chance of holding your pace or avoid accidents. Unfortunately, with the adrenaline of the race / riding on the limit I'll be the first to admit that I rarely say "please" (although I do say "thanks" when I can) and I will let people know I'm trying to pass even when the road is completely congested as this usually spurs them on to pass even faster which is good for both of us. I'm sorry that this part of the race experience was not so enjoyable for you, but my impression was that there was more shouting on the bike course than normal for a variety of reasons. Don't let it put you off. Anyway, I hope everyone had a great race, I really enjoyed it - with the exception of rocking up to transition at 5:35am to find my rear tire punctured! Take care, Phil.

jackxter - 2009-07-27 11:22 AM Phil...punctured, as in "intentional" or just flat? Either way it $ucks...but intentional puncture is disturbing. Someone else claimed that they had their cycling and running shoes in a plastic bag to keep them dry...they returned to find the bag missing and the shoes in the grass...wet...not a cool thing to do.

jackxter - 2009-07-27 12:22 PM

Phil...punctured, as in "intentional" or just flat? Either way it $ucks...but intentional puncture is disturbing.
Someone else claimed that they had their cycling and running shoes in a plastic bag to keep them dry...they returned to find the bag missing and the shoes in the grass...wet...not a cool thing to do.

LazyMarathoner - 2009-07-27 11:38 AM

First, to address Michelle's question - Michelle, I wasn't defaming first timers or intending backlash. My point is that when you do a race that is roughly 50% first-timers your experience is not the same as one where you have people who are veterans to the sport and are great advocates for it and can help fellow athletes. There is a strong spirit of togetherness amongst most triathletes and they are often willing to go out of their way to help others. For ex., the girl racked next to me at IMRI 70.3 had never done a race so I put her aero bottle on her bike for her and helped her set up her transition. She literally didn't know how or what to do. The women next to me in NYC didn't speak a word. It was the same last year. And people don't usually steal others' plastic bags and such for their own purposes. That's just sad.

And to the two bolded comments above, I couldn't agree more. Before my first tri I actually read the USAT rules. I didn't want to be out on the course unaware of what to do and/or causing issues. At the end of the day this is a race. People are racing. I don't care if they aren't making podium, they entered to race and I'm a little put off by so many people's attitudes that it's wrong to want to race. Finishing isn't the only goal for some and I think that's totally fair. I was shocked by the blatant disregard of course safety and rules. And I'm not talking about missing a few minutes on a bike split, I'm talking about near crashes that can not only end your season, but change your life and affect your livelihood and ability to work. I had two very close calls caused by another cyclist's error. I realize accidents happen but these instances were completely unavoidable.

As far as the shouting "left" or "on your left" it has to be done. This call out is not to suggest you are in the way, or that you must immediately move over, this call out is for safety. I passed many people who could not move right, but the announcement that I was passing was to ensure they didn't make a sudden move or decide to pass themselves. It's course safety and etiquette and too many people are overly sensitive that it's a sign of rudeness from the person passing. I was out with a friend yesterday and she stated such and I shared this same perspective. She hadn't thought about it that way and when she realized it, she got it. I'd rather be perceived as being a jerk for yelling left, than ending up with two or more cyclists seriously injured in a crash.

I'm not trying to be preachy or rude, just sharing my opinion. I'm no veteran of this sport by far, yesterday was only my fifth tri ever. But having had a nasty crash last year (that was my own fault) I'm big on safety and just don't think yesterday's course was safe, at least for the middle-to-last waves.

jmk-brooklyn - 2009-07-27 12:24 PM During my training for the transition area tours, they said that approximately 30% of the people in the race are competing in their first tri ever. Given that, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to spend a few extra minutes in the briefing to talk about race etiquette. If I do the tours next year, and I think I will, I’m definitely going to talk about it, even though it’s not in the “script”. I only saw the run course, but groups of people running in packs and obstructing faster runners behind them *COUGH*TeamInTraining*COUGH* was something I saw a lot of. I can only assume that there was some of that going on on the bike course as well. Not to turn this into an anti TnT rant, I think a lot of TnT people have trained exclusively with other TnT people and so they aren’t as familiar with the rules of cycling and racing as even another non-TnT newbie might be

jmk-brooklyn - 2009-07-27 1:24 PM During my training for the transition area tours, they said that approximately 30% of the people in the race are competing in their first tri ever. Given that, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to spend a few extra minutes in the briefing to talk about race etiquette. If I do the tours next year, and I think I will, I’m definitely going to talk about it, even though it’s not in the “script”. I only saw the run course, but groups of people running in packs and obstructing faster runners behind them *COUGH*TeamInTraining*COUGH* was something I saw a lot of. I can only assume that there was some of that going on on the bike course as well. Not to turn this into an anti TnT rant, I think a lot of TnT people have trained exclusively with other TnT people and so they aren’t as familiar with the rules of cycling and racing as even another non-TnT newbie might be

drcherrybomb21 - 2009-07-27 1:47 PM



Wow!  I can't believe they would do that!  I did not see that kind of rudeness on the run course.  People on the run seemed more supportive not rude at all to me.