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2009-05-12 9:46 AM

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Subject: Effective Bike Training
I'm at a point where I don't think I'm getting the most out of my rides.  I've found some good principals to follow that work for me for running (incorporating longer easy runs, tempo runs, etc.), but when I get on the bike, I wind up just riding and kind of pushing it speed-wise for the duration of my ride, however long or short it might be.  I don't think I'm using my bike time very effectively.  I'm going to try to get in 3-4 rides/week.  (1) 30-40 minutes before work one morning a week, (2) 25 mile commute to (and sometimes from) work once a week - suburban to urban: lots of stop signs and traffic lights for about half the ride, and (3) longer ride on the weekend.

Any thoughts as to general approaches to using this time on the bike (other than just getting on a pedaling) in a way that will translate into gains on race day?


2009-05-12 11:11 AM
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Ride harder.  Use intervals if it helps keep you motivated.
2009-05-12 11:22 AM
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One word: Fartlek!
2009-05-12 11:30 AM
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Ride more and ride harder is the simple answer.

It will also depend on the kind of races you are aiming for.  If you are into shorter distances then doing high intensity rides (intervals?) is the key but if you race longer distances then you need to be increasing the time you spend in the saddle, although doing this will probably help anyway.

If you want some good intervals to do then try these.  10mins all out, 5 mins recovery, repeat 3-6 times.  I love these intervals and they really help to build power.  I do them on the trainer but a long flat road or steady climb will do.

2009-05-12 11:46 AM
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You could use some of your commutes for interval, fartlek, or tempo rides.  On the rides I do over and over, there always ends of spots on the course that I like to hammer.  A series of good hills,  a 5 mile flat stretch of uninterupted road, etc....

eg. workout  -  warm up 5 miles,  main set, cool down 5 miles

main sets could be
     - 5 mile tempo, 5 miles easy, 5 miles tempo
     - 7 x (1 mile fast, 1 mile easy)
     - 5 x (2 miles fast, 1 mile easy)
     - attack every hill you climb, rest between hills
     - just use your imagination and mix it up

my advice is probably worth what you paid for it.
2009-05-12 11:47 AM
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I was in your same boat about two years ago. I had 2 routes I rode over and over and simply just pushed it, thinking I would get faster by simply "getting the miles in." I couldn't break through. I spoke to many riders, both triathletes and cyclists, looking for a way to break through. Now, a couple of years later, I'm more than happy, encouraged and excited about my bike.

Things I've done:
1. Hills - seek them out, learn to love them. Living in Iowa it's difficult, but they're around. I find the steepest and/or longest (don't just ride one) hills around and make sure I abuse them. I have one day a week where all I do is hill repeats on a uber-steep hill. Start by pushing the biggest gear you can and drop down as needed to complete as many repeats as you can. I also ride the repeats in the saddle opposed to standing up.
2. Long Rides - Depending on your level of fitness, incorporate long rides in to your training. You mention longer rides on the weekend, but how much longer? I usually ride 20-25 miles a few times(2-3) after work during the week and roll a 60-80 mile ride over the weekend. Helps tremendously with my endurance. Keep the best tempo you can without jeaopardizing completing the ride.
3. Intervals / HITs(High Intensity Training) - everyone has their own ways of doing them, but ultimately, you've got to make it hurt. You can Google a ton of stuff on this. I usually find a 1-2 mile stretch of highway and open it up as hard as I can for as long as I can. Do different drills such as 30sec. on, 30 sec. recover(x10), ride hard into the wind... whatever. If you aren't suffering and wanting to quit, you're likely not working hard enough. (my two cents).
4. Be Careful & Recover - Ultimately to get faster/stronger on the bike, your going to have to work hard. Very hard. It's uncomfortable and is stressful on you body. Know your level of fitness and be smart about how much stress you add. We all want to improve as triathletes, but getting laid up for a month, year or even longer is not worth it. Injury sucks.

Everyone has ways of getting stronger in each discipline, but all require focus, HARD work, pain and suffering and time. It doesn't happen overnight, but develop a plan and stick with it and you'll see improvement!

Good luck!


2009-05-12 12:29 PM
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You mention 3 to 4 rides a week and the duration, but you make no mention of intensity.  Which 1, maybe 2, of your rides is your quality ride for the week?  What is it's goal?  Power?  Speed?  Endurance?  Which are recovery?  How will you make sure you're not riding too hard on the easy rides?

I would suggest that once every 4-6 weeks you set yourself up with a time trial that takes about 10 to 20 minutes to complete.  Use the same warmup routine, and try to run the same course in the same conditions.  Track your performance on this and use the results to adjust your training.

2009-05-12 12:33 PM
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This thread has helped a bunch of BTers to increase their cycling power based on the feedback I've gotten ffrom them.

WINTER CYCLING PLAN THREAD
2009-05-12 1:09 PM
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JorgeM - 2009-05-12 12:33 PM This thread has helped a bunch of BTers to increase their cycling power based on the feedback I've gotten ffrom them.

WINTER CYCLING PLAN THREAD


Certainly helped me.  Plan on doing it again next winter.
2009-05-12 1:11 PM
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Edited by mtnchic 2009-05-12 1:12 PM
2009-05-12 4:23 PM
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It sounds like you simply need to be more directed in your bike riding.

Have you taken the time to do any testing? Do you use heart rate? Perceived exertion? A cycle computer? A Power meter?

You can turn your commute to work into interval training and make the time spent doing your longer rides more productive by cycling at specfic intensities.

There are a lot more specifics but before spendign a long time typing I just wanted to test the waters with those questions.


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