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2009-06-12 7:22 PM
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KathyG - 2009-06-04 2:40 PM Email they sent to me twice!

Waves for this year's Patriot are as follows:

  1. Open/Elite Men and Women
  2. Men Age 45 and over
  3. Women Age 40 and over
  4. Women Age 39 and under
  5. Men Age 35-44
  6. Men Age 34 and under

It will be a bit of a pass fest as all the younger guys pass many of the women.

 

About f-ing time I don't have to swim over men dog paddling......geez o pete guys suck it up us ladies have to start in the back all the time.



2009-06-12 7:27 PM
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mawalt - 2009-06-12 11:01 AM Hey folks, Mark, co-RD of the Patriot, chiming in here. Regarding the waves... first off, sorry for the 2 emails. The first one was from our email provider (Constant Contact) and they have an annoying glitch that causes the end of some content sections to get cut off and that's what happened here. The last wave and info that waves would be 5 minutes apart was cut out of the email. Argh! As for the wave order, its the kind of thing where someone needs to be last. I know its not fun being in the last wave, but unfortunately someone has to be. The waves are structured in an effort to get older age groups out earlier and to keep the size of the waves smaller. We're always willing to listen to suggestions on wave order or anything. The waves are posted to the website. As for hanging out after the race, you'll be under no pressure to leave the camp. We have it for the whole weekend so hang out, enjoy the post race catered meal and good luck on winning some of the giveaways we've lined up... there are some great ones!

 

Could you possibly not give enerything away before us BOPPERS get off the course this year.  I was kind of offended last year when I finished you were doing the raffle already...How are you supposed to win if you are on the course?  Certinly we are not getting an age group award at least give us a shot at the freebies.

2009-06-12 10:28 PM
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Yes! We are still looking for volunteers. You can never have too many. triathletes make the best volunteers so if anyone is interested, please join us. Here's the link for more info: http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=8577

I will touch base with Eric regarding making a change to when the Athenas (and Clydesdales) go off. You are right, there aren't may of you (7 Athenas, 7 Clydes), but since we already announced the waves I'm somewhat hesitant to change it for fear one of the Clydes or Athenas doesn't hear of the change and then misses their wave start thinking its still at 7:30AM.

Regarding giveaways, as much as we'd like to wait until everyone finished that would mean we'd have to wait over 8 hours from the race start. Its a long day for everyone so we need to draw the line somewhere... finding where that line is is the challenge. If we pick 7 hours... the person that finishes in 7:10 is upset for missing out. Its kind of a no win situation.


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2009-06-13 8:16 AM
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Socks - 2009-06-12 8:22 PM

KathyG - 2009-06-04 2:40 PM Email they sent to me twice!

Waves for this year's Patriot are as follows:

  1. Open/Elite Men and Women
  2. Men Age 45 and over
  3. Women Age 40 and over
  4. Women Age 39 and under
  5. Men Age 35-44
  6. Men Age 34 and under

It will be a bit of a pass fest as all the younger guys pass many of the women.

 

About f-ing time I don't have to swim over men dog paddling......geez o pete guys suck it up us ladies have to start in the back all the time.



I just wish I could hold onto your feet!!!!! but I am not nearly fast enough to do that!
2009-06-13 8:51 AM
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mawalt - 2009-06-12 11:28 PM Yes! We are still looking for volunteers. You can never have too many. triathletes make the best volunteers so if anyone is interested, please join us. Here's the link for more info: http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=8577I will touch base with Eric regarding making a change to when the Athenas (and Clydesdales) go off. You are right, there aren't may of you (7 Athenas, 7 Clydes), but since we already announced the waves I'm somewhat hesitant to change it for fear one of the Clydes or Athenas doesn't hear of the change and then misses their wave start thinking its still at 7:30AM. Regarding giveaways, as much as we'd like to wait until everyone finished that would mean we'd have to wait over 8 hours from the race start. Its a long day for everyone so we need to draw the line somewhere... finding where that line is is the challenge. If we pick 7 hours... the person that finishes in 7:10 is upset for missing out. Its kind of a no win situation.

I can appreciate that, but I have never done a race where they did that and I have done a lot of races  I finished in 6:45 ish last year.  Obviously I am not winning anything so I really don't care about the awards.  At least give the people in the last waves some time.  If you are going to do it that way (early) then you need to institute a policy that if you call a persons # and they are on the course then mail them what ever it is they won or hold it til they finish.  Its penalizing people for being slow.  Trust me we aren't out there going slow on purpose.  How about do the age group awards then take a  break til everyone finishes and do the giveaways.  If the fast people want a chance at the freebies they stay.  IF not they can leave.  At least they have a choice.  Or just do away with the giveaways.

When I finished last year and you were doing the raffle already it made me feel like my race didn't count and I was not a part of it.  Its hard enough to be slow without feeling like the race is rubbing your face in it.  Its like you were saying you are so slow you don't get to be a part of the race festivities.  

2009-06-13 12:05 PM
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Well put Sue!! 


2009-06-13 12:22 PM
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Socks - 2009-06-13 9:51 AM

mawalt - 2009-06-12 11:28 PM Yes! We are still looking for volunteers. You can never have too many. triathletes make the best volunteers so if anyone is interested, please join us. Here's the link for more info: http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=8577I will touch base with Eric regarding making a change to when the Athenas (and Clydesdales) go off. You are right, there aren't may of you (7 Athenas, 7 Clydes), but since we already announced the waves I'm somewhat hesitant to change it for fear one of the Clydes or Athenas doesn't hear of the change and then misses their wave start thinking its still at 7:30AM. Regarding giveaways, as much as we'd like to wait until everyone finished that would mean we'd have to wait over 8 hours from the race start. Its a long day for everyone so we need to draw the line somewhere... finding where that line is is the challenge. If we pick 7 hours... the person that finishes in 7:10 is upset for missing out. Its kind of a no win situation.

....  Its penalizing people for being slow.  Trust me we aren't out there going slow on purpose.  How about do the age group awards then take a  break til everyone finishes and do the giveaways.  If the fast people want a chance at the freebies they stay.  IF not they can leave.  At least they have a choice.  Or just do away with the giveaways.

When I finished last year and you were doing the raffle already it made me feel like my race didn't count and I was not a part of it.  Its hard enough to be slow without feeling like the race is rubbing your face in it.  Its like you were saying you are so slow you don't get to be a part of the race festivities.  



^^^^This is how I've been feeling. I pay my entrance fee, train hard and be as prepared as I can be and participate doing the best I can on race day. Yet when I finish it will be an afterthought with most of the post race activities over.

Just because I'm slow shouldn't exclude me from winning a raffle since I'm not finished yet or being included in post race activities. I do the best I can given my abilities.

2009-06-13 5:06 PM
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 And well put Kathy!!

This echoes my sentiments EXACTLY .....there should be no penalization for being BOP . Everyone has different natural abilities. I would love to be FOP......but it ain't never gonna happen. And it is NOT because I do not work hard.

Yes its a long day..........especially for those who take longer to finish. 
2009-06-13 5:13 PM
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I am going to pipe in here too.  Patriot will be my first HIM.  I HOPE to finish in 6.5 hours.  I volunteered at this race last year and my boys will be volunteering this year. It is a small race and it is going to get smaller if you just ignore all of us who are out there longer.  Seriously, do you think I will come back next year either to race or volunteer if when I get finished with MY FIRST HIM no one is at the finish line anymore???

2009-06-14 9:21 PM
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TriToy, my wife is the Finish Line Coordinator and has been at the finish line with a staff of volunteers to see and cheer the last finisher each year we've held the Patriot. Please do not even suggest there won't be someone at the finish because that is not going to happen and has NEVER happened. The first year of the Patriot, Aegis awarded the final finisher a bike frame... last year there were volunteers standing and cheering as the final finisher came across the line while the DJ exuberantly annouced their achievement. No one is getting ignored... not the first finisher and certainly not the last.

The 2 issues of this thread are the start of the Athenas and Clydes and the giveaways. We aren't going to change the wave order to move up Athenas and Clydes at this point for the reason I stated above. We've already announced the order and my concern in changing it is not everyone hears of the change and then someone misses their start. The point about blending the Athenas and Clydes in eartlier waves is well taken and will be addressed at next year's race.

The awards will be given out at approximately 2:30PM which is 7 hours after the last wave. In last year's race, 20 people finished in over 7 hours (17 within 7:33) and many of them went out in the earlier waves so by 2:30 there should only be a few people left on the course. Giveaways are made possible by our sponsors and I owe it to them to maximize their exposure to racers which is why we can't wait until the last finisher (too many people will have left). Sponsors give us financial support and product support -- without it we would not be able to give the swag we give all racers, the post-race catered meal for all racers, on course aid station support, etc. Or the giveaways.

In fairness to the few people that come in after we give out the giveaways around 2:30, we will put aside a prize package that will be randomly given away to post-2:30 finishers.


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2009-06-15 9:08 AM
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Mark, thanks for listening to our concerns and working it out.

I recall, your family, kids and neighbors being at both Patriot and Cranberry whopping it up for everyone at the finish!

May the weather be wonderful for all of us...see you Friday and Saturday!


2009-06-15 9:30 AM
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Thank you Mark!!!

2009-06-15 11:42 AM
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Thanks Mark.  I do put my hat off to the volunteers out there waiting for us.  There was a very nice lady on the street in front of the camp as I was finishing last year.  The aide stations were all well stocked as well.  I promise to go as fast as I can......I'm just not made for running.  Good thing I can bike and swim

2009-06-16 9:15 AM
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Who's getting excited?

Me!
2009-06-16 10:20 AM
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i'm excited and i am not even racing!!!!!!

2009-06-16 10:58 AM
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KathyG - 2009-06-16 10:15 AM Who's getting excited?

Me!


ME, ME! 

Excited and terrified at the same time!


2009-06-16 11:51 AM
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ebshot - 2009-06-16 11:58 AM
KathyG - 2009-06-16 10:15 AM Who's getting excited?

Me!


ME, ME! 

Excited and terrified at the same time!


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2009-06-16 9:09 PM
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I'm excited and I'm only there to cheer and hopefully volunteer.  What about post race plans?? I know there is a picnic? immediately post race but after that any thoughts for a BT get together?
2009-06-16 10:04 PM
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yes we are thinking of 99??? as they have beer and beer and beer and oh yeah food

I posted directions on page 1

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2009-06-17 7:05 AM
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I'm in for the beer !  Oh yeah I'm racing as well Cool
2009-06-18 5:32 PM
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We are planning to meet to swim Friday at 3pm if anyone is interested. My daughter is graduating from middle school so I need to leave by 4 to get back home.

Race morning for those of you that don't know us, how about trying to meet for a picture before the race meeting at 6:40. I'm not sure where to meet up. I know many of you but not all of you.

I look pretty much like my avatar with really short hair and I'll have on Bay State tri team top which is red, royal blue and white. Quite of few of us women know each other so look out for us.

Weather today would have been perfect for the race.....I don't really care but happy it won't be hot.


2009-06-18 6:02 PM
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I'm pumped baby!
2009-06-18 6:08 PM
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I am actually a bit worried about being cold on the bike -  for the run rain is fine and on the bike too as long as it is warm enough but it could be rather chilly at that point....

totally psyched/anxious........
2009-06-18 7:45 PM
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Good luck everyone. We spent the day getting the race site ready. Transition is up... racks are in place... the finish line chute and corral built... and despite it being a breezy day at Cathedral Camp, Long Pond was very calm (no chop). Keep your fingers crossed the weather holds up. See you tomorrow or race day.
2009-06-19 5:00 AM
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Thanks Mark!

Weather looks perfect for race...cool for the run!!
6 am

61°F

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69°F

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