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2009-06-29 7:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
PennState - 2009-06-29 9:50 PM

Funny, I find that I can hold a certain speed fora long time... ie; my speeds for shorter races are not faster... like I hit a 'sweet spot' and can go on for awhile at that spot, but not necessarily faster.


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For most triathletes the bulk of their training is going to be around FTP; some a little higher, some at FTP and the bulk lower than FTP.  This leads to a very flat power curve so they see very little fall off in paces as the distances increase.

If you want to go faster for shorter distances then you could incorporate some work around your 5min power and maybe even some at your 1min power.

Shane


2009-06-29 8:15 PM
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2009-06-29 9:15 PM
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who cares, how you'd run off the bike

I'm all over the place...17-22 to answer the op
2009-06-29 9:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?

17-19 training

19-19.6 racing (yet to break the 20 mph average!)

2009-06-29 9:44 PM
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totally course dependent for me

16-17 on hilly, climby courses
18-22 on flatter courses

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2009-06-29 9:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
briandelmo - 2009-06-29 5:31 PM

I got my first triathlon in about 8 weeks. I dont have a triathlon like bike just a regular road bike. I average about 15-16mph. I was wondering what everyone elses average speed is?


I have a tri bike and a road bike.

I rode my rode bike in my Half Ironman... and my full Ironman.

It's not the bike, it's the engine running the bike. I passed some big boys on pretty tri bikes going up some hills in Kentucky.

Depending on my terrain, the distance, wind, heat, etc... my average can be anywhere from 15 mph to 19 mph.



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2009-06-29 9:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
gsmacleod - 2009-06-29 5:58 PM
PennState - 2009-06-29 9:50 PM

Funny, I find that I can hold a certain speed fora long time... ie; my speeds for shorter races are not faster... like I hit a 'sweet spot' and can go on for awhile at that spot, but not necessarily faster.


The mark of a true triathlete

For most triathletes the bulk of their training is going to be around FTP; some a little higher, some at FTP and the bulk lower than FTP.  This leads to a very flat power curve so they see very little fall off in paces as the distances increase.

If you want to go faster for shorter distances then you could incorporate some work around your 5min power and maybe even some at your 1min power.

Shane



Okay, I'll bite... What's FTP stand for? 

(I only know it as file-transfer-protocol, since I'm a computer geek. )
2009-06-29 10:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
most of my training 12/13 mph not averaging in complete stops since the odo doesn't avg. them in.  of course i am riding a pre suspension Giant mountain bike pulling a trailer with two kids.

when the rare opportunity arises i train sans kids i am going a little under 20 mph pace (again not counting full stops

in sprint distance tris - 19-22mph
2009-06-29 10:04 PM
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KSH - 2009-06-29 10:44 PM
briandelmo - 2009-06-29 5:31 PM I got my first triathlon in about 8 weeks. I dont have a triathlon like bike just a regular road bike. I average about 15-16mph. I was wondering what everyone elses average speed is?
I have a tri bike and a road bike. I rode my rode bike in my Half Ironman... and my full Ironman. It's not the bike, it's the engine running the bike. I passed some big boys on pretty tri bikes going up some hills in Kentucky. Depending on my terrain, the distance, wind, heat, etc... my average can be anywhere from 15 mph to 19 mph.


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2009-06-29 10:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
functional threshold power,

in english, the power you can sustain for 1 hour.
2009-06-29 10:05 PM
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newbz - 2009-06-29 11:04 PM functional threshold power, in english, the power you can sustain for 1 hour.


oh.  that too.  


2009-06-29 10:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
gsmacleod - 2009-06-29 7:58 PM
PennState - 2009-06-29 9:50 PM

Funny, I find that I can hold a certain speed fora long time... ie; my speeds for shorter races are not faster... like I hit a 'sweet spot' and can go on for awhile at that spot, but not necessarily faster.


The mark of a true triathlete

For most triathletes the bulk of their training is going to be around FTP; some a little higher, some at FTP and the bulk lower than FTP.  This leads to a very flat power curve so they see very little fall off in paces as the distances increase.

If you want to go faster for shorter distances then you could incorporate some work around your 5min power and maybe even some at your 1min power.

Shane

I would say; if you want to be fast at any Tri distance (from sprint to IM) a diet of VO2max (5 min max power), 20 min max power and 60 min max power (aka FTP) at different times (with a purpose of course) is a must that plus the usual long steady/tempo rides of course. But that's just IMO of course
2009-06-29 11:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
JorgeM - 2009-06-29 11:27 PM
gsmacleod - 2009-06-29 7:58 PM
PennState - 2009-06-29 9:50 PM

Funny, I find that I can hold a certain speed fora long time... ie; my speeds for shorter races are not faster... like I hit a 'sweet spot' and can go on for awhile at that spot, but not necessarily faster.


The mark of a true triathlete

For most triathletes the bulk of their training is going to be around FTP; some a little higher, some at FTP and the bulk lower than FTP.  This leads to a very flat power curve so they see very little fall off in paces as the distances increase.

If you want to go faster for shorter distances then you could incorporate some work around your 5min power and maybe even some at your 1min power.

Shane

I would say; if you want to be fast at any Tri distance (from sprint to IM) a diet of VO2max (5 min max power), 20 min max power and 60 min max power (aka FTP) at different times (with a purpose of course) is a must that plus the usual long steady/tempo rides of course. But that's just IMO of course


oh - purposeful bike training.  i should probably do that.  i do it swimming and running. i am just dragging the bike along.  you are definitely right jorge, if any of us wanna get faster we need to train right for it.   
2009-06-30 1:43 AM
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Glad to see I'm not that far off from some of you here...I'm kinda all over in the 16-19 mph range.  Sounds like I need to be varying my training a bit more too by whats been said!

2009-06-30 2:28 AM
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18-19 right now for me but I'm still about 15 pounds heavy.  Would really like to be at least 10 lighter before HIM in September.  My HIM last year I averaged 18 on a hilly course and I'm good with that.

2009-06-30 7:45 AM
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Started riding for the first time in Mar this year. 

FWIW:  Started out about avg 17mph.  Quickly got up to 18mph.  Slowly got up to 19 1/2 mph avg (which is my long ride avg now).  I ride a roadie (with aero bars) and ride on "moderately hilly" roads.  First triathlon was avg 21mph on a "moderately hilly" course.  
 



2009-06-30 7:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
22mph avg at Florida Ironman 70.3  But really depends on course, wind and how I feel.

 
2009-06-30 8:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
Everyone has their own definition of mostly flat vs rolling hills vs. moderate hills vs. very hilly.

Training ride yesterday: 32.5mi, w/ 1300ft total climbing (what I would consider rolling hills) w/ 20.63mph average.  I was pretty happy with that

Any training rides under 30mi will usually be in the 20.0 - 20.5mph range.  Longer rides will be closer to 19.0-19.5

Only race I have done so far had a very challenging bike course where I averaged 19
2016-10-03 9:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
Hi, I'm a newbie here and I realize this is a seven year old thread, but I'm wondering what the current average speeds are for common triathletes. The technology and training techniques have evolved through the years so is it safe to say that the present day triathletes are faster than the triathletes seven years ago?

Having trained well (at least its well enough for me), I managed to maintain an average of 22.92 MPH in an age group tri race last March. However, being only able to bike during weekends thereafter, I only managed to maintain an average of 20.04 MPH during a road race last Sunday. Also learned the hard way that road racing requires different sets of skills compared to a triathlon bike leg race since you need to stay very close to the leading pack (peloton) to gain free speed - and its very hard to do it with a tri bike. :-)
2016-10-04 5:33 AM
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Originally posted by Nightbird95 Hi, I'm a newbie here and I realize this is a seven year old thread, but I'm wondering what the current average speeds are for common triathletes. The technology and training techniques have evolved through the years so is it safe to say that the present day triathletes are faster than the triathletes seven years ago? Having trained well (at least its well enough for me), I managed to maintain an average of 22.92 MPH in an age group tri race last March. However, being only able to bike during weekends thereafter, I only managed to maintain an average of 20.04 MPH during a road race last Sunday. Also learned the hard way that road racing requires different sets of skills compared to a triathlon bike leg race since you need to stay very close to the leading pack (peloton) to gain free speed - and its very hard to do it with a tri bike. :-)

I'm surprised they even let you race with a tri bike.

That said, the bike leg of a triathlon and a bike race (of any kind) are almost two different sports.  Even a time trial is different because you hammer the last 1/4 of that vs. a steady pace in a triathlon.  In a "regular" road race, you get lots of surges and recoveries depending on how the race is approached by the different riders.

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2016-10-04 6:47 AM
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For a sprint I'm close to 25 mph.  For an oly about 24.  For a HIM about 22-23.  Ironman 21-22.

So 1 to 1.5 mph drop between distances.



2016-10-04 6:48 AM
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Didn't realize this thread was 7 years old.

2016-10-04 7:27 AM
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Originally posted by jmhpsu93

Originally posted by Nightbird95 Hi, I'm a newbie here and I realize this is a seven year old thread, but I'm wondering what the current average speeds are for common triathletes. The technology and training techniques have evolved through the years so is it safe to say that the present day triathletes are faster than the triathletes seven years ago? Having trained well (at least its well enough for me), I managed to maintain an average of 22.92 MPH in an age group tri race last March. However, being only able to bike during weekends thereafter, I only managed to maintain an average of 20.04 MPH during a road race last Sunday. Also learned the hard way that road racing requires different sets of skills compared to a triathlon bike leg race since you need to stay very close to the leading pack (peloton) to gain free speed - and its very hard to do it with a tri bike. :-)

I'm surprised they even let you race with a tri bike.

That said, the bike leg of a triathlon and a bike race (of any kind) are almost two different sports.  Even a time trial is different because you hammer the last 1/4 of that vs. a steady pace in a triathlon.  In a "regular" road race, you get lots of surges and recoveries depending on how the race is approached by the different riders.

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2016-10-04 7:39 AM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
Originally posted by Nightbird95

Hi, I'm a newbie here and I realize this is a seven year old thread, but I'm wondering what the current average speeds are for common triathletes. The technology and training techniques have evolved through the years so is it safe to say that the present day triathletes are faster than the triathletes seven years ago?

Having trained well (at least its well enough for me), I managed to maintain an average of 22.92 MPH in an age group tri race last March. However, being only able to bike during weekends thereafter, I only managed to maintain an average of 20.04 MPH during a road race last Sunday. Also learned the hard way that road racing requires different sets of skills compared to a triathlon bike leg race since you need to stay very close to the leading pack (peloton) to gain free speed - and its very hard to do it with a tri bike. :-)


Really surprised they let you use a tri bike in a road race. But to answer your question, I don't think that tech changes over the last 7 years would amount to a whole lot of improvement in avg bike speed. The same person, riding a 7 year old "superbike" vs a brand new superbike isn't going to be a big difference in speed. Maybe with best skin suits etc something like .1-.3 mph?

As others said 7 years ago, so much depends on course and winds, and even the altitude you're riding at. I did two sprints at the end of summer. The first had a 20 mile relatively flat course and I avg 20.2mph. The second was a 15 mile very hilly course with lots of tight turns and with almost an identical heart rate avg I did 15.2mph. Road bike with clip ons.

Like others said 7 years ago you don't improve speed much by always riding the same pace. For me, riding about 70-80% of my miles in Zone 1-2 and the rest either intervals or climbing in Z4-5 is pretty effective.
2016-10-04 9:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Your Average Bike Speed?
Originally posted by Nightbird95

Hi, I'm a newbie here and I realize this is a seven year old thread, but I'm wondering what the current average speeds are for common triathletes. The technology and training techniques have evolved through the years so is it safe to say that the present day triathletes are faster than the triathletes seven years ago?




Not really, the biggest factor is the engine! Since more high tech is on the market at lower prices then it was seven years ago, more people are using it. The advantages are not that big when talking speed. If you were on a tri bike with good race wheels from 7 years ago and the same from today, you would find it difficult to find the speed advantages. If you did a good job of testing the advantages you would probably come up with about .1 to .2 mph faster on the new tech (maybe)
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