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2011-05-23 10:35 PM in reply to: #3514487 |
Expert 1027 Zürich, Switzerland | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? Fred Doucette - 2011-05-22 11:11 PM AndrewMT - 2011-05-23 4:44 PM Plissken74 - 2011-05-23 1:38 PM AndrewMT - 2011-05-22 8:28 PM Plissken74 - 2011-05-23 1:20 PM what is the tough part of this race? heat? swim? Heat. The conditions on the bike actually weren't bad, but the run was brutal! I say this as a spectactor, but I live here, so I run in these conditions everday.
what made it brutal? Heat and humidity combined with very still air and little to no shade. Fun times! Honestly (and I'm being VERY honest) I would love to see 'Plissken' do this race. He has gone on record in the past on this site stating that North American IMs are much, much easier to qualify for than European IMs (For Kona). I would like to see him back this up by coming to a N. American event and qualify at our 'easy' events. I think looking at at 10 hour IM from 1 course to another is difficult as the heat in Texas no doubt made for a very tough run even if the bike was very fast. So, I am asking the OP to back up the talk. Register for this 'easier' IM and put his money where his mouth is. the only problem would be to accept of cycling 180km in the middle of nowhere where probably the only people you meet on the way are the volunteers handling you food and drinks at the stations. that would kill my mind I think and it is for sure a tough part for me. then the same on the run probably... but of course, you have to decide between this scenario and a 10h00 goal...sure running in the heat or Frankfurt 9h35, hilly bike (still very fast), usually in the heat too but with a million of people on the way, supporting you, feeling like to be on the Tour de France never running or cycling alone anyway, apart of jokes or provocations, I will be there in US for IM 70.3 Syracuse in september and I want to register for IM Wisconsin. let's see if I manage to register |
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2011-05-23 10:38 PM in reply to: #3514897 |
Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? kuotaguy - 2011-05-24 10:34 AM In! Signed up yesterday. Will be my third IM....I've finished IM St George the past two years, so I'm looking for a venue with a few less hills. Hey, papson14, start an IMTX Race Group thread. Looks like we'll have a lot of cool followers for an entire year. This is in the works. I contacted the BT gurus and they are resetting the IMTX date, our official thread should be up in a couple of days. I'll post the link here when it's up. Thanks again Ron! Edited by papson14 2011-05-23 10:39 PM |
2011-05-24 12:22 AM in reply to: #3512251 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? I am seriously considering this as a first IM. My only reservation is what I've read about the swim being very congested. I have talked to people that have done other IM's and have heard that they were rough also but from what I'm reading IMTX was an 1:30 brawl for many. How fast does one need to swim in order to get a little ahead of the masses? |
2011-05-24 1:22 AM in reply to: #3515179 |
Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? popsracer - 2011-05-24 2:22 PM I am seriously considering this as a first IM. My only reservation is what I've read about the swim being very congested. I have talked to people that have done other IM's and have heard that they were rough also but from what I'm reading IMTX was an 1:30 brawl for many. How fast does one need to swim in order to get a little ahead of the masses? I think your approach to the swim will have more impact on the "scrum" during the swim. In the 4 IMs I've completed I've only gotten pushed around a bit in each of the swims. In Florida there was a huge entrance point for swimmers so no problems there, but in Japan I just had to be smart and seat myself in agood location because the cove we were in was tiny even for the smaller amount fo entrants. I normally start in the middle but on the outside and gradually work my way into better drafting positions as the swim progresses. While swimming and sighting I can figure out if I need to move inside or outside throughout the swim. The only real pushing I've encountered was this last time in Australia when I didn't follow my own advice and started more in the middle. Turned out to be my worst IM swim to date. Even in LP where the swim was packed it didn't take time to thin out and make for an enjoyable swim. Just so you know my swim times have all been between 1:10 and 1:15 so I'm swimming with the masses. |
2011-05-24 7:49 AM in reply to: #3515194 |
Expert 1159 Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? papson14 - 2011-05-24 2:22 AM I normally start in the middle but on the outside and gradually work my way into better drafting positions as the swim progresses. While swimming and sighting I can figure out if I need to move inside or outside throughout the swim. The only real pushing I've encountered was this last time in Australia when I didn't follow my own advice and started more in the middle. Turned out to be my worst IM swim to date. Even in LP where the swim was packed it didn't take time to thin out and make for an enjoyable swim. Just so you know my swim times have all been between 1:10 and 1:15 so I'm swimming with the masses. Thanks for sharing this - I think this is very good advice. |
2011-05-24 7:54 AM in reply to: #3515102 |
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2011-05-24 8:03 AM in reply to: #3515179 |
Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? popsracer - 2011-05-24 12:22 AM I am seriously considering this as a first IM. My only reservation is what I've read about the swim being very congested. I have talked to people that have done other IM's and have heard that they were rough also but from what I'm reading IMTX was an 1:30 brawl for many. How fast does one need to swim in order to get a little ahead of the masses? For me it was a little rough at the start because I was still on the boat ramp when the gun went off. I stayed right out of the bouy line and had clean water until the turn. The turn was a bit congested and bumpy. From then I went to the bouy line as most stayed on the shoreline. The canal was congested, BUT it was so shallow you could stand if need be. I swam a 1:16. Let me know if you have anymore questions. My wife and I spoke last night and it looks like I am in for another year. |
2011-05-24 8:17 AM in reply to: #3512251 |
Got Wahoo? 5423 San Antonio | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? Houston is a lot of things, but middle of nowhere is not one of them. Houston is the 49th most populous city in the world. Your example of frankfurt is 72nd. Zurich did not make the top 100 (maybe not the top 1000). There are a lot of negatives about Houston, but implying it's remote and small is silly. Also, a fall half IM in NY is not quite the same as Houston's full IM in high humidity/high heat. http://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm 1. Tokyo, Japan - 32,450,000 2. Seóul, South Korea - 20,550,000 3. Mexico City, Mexico - 20,450,000 4. New York City, USA - 19,750,000 5. Mumbai, India - 19,200,000 6. Jakarta, Indonesia - 18,900,000 7. Sáo Paulo, Brazil - 18,850,000 8. Delhi, India - 18,680,000 9. Õsaka/Kobe, Japan - 17,350,000 10. Shanghai, China - 16,650,000 11. Manila, Philippines - 16,300,000 21. Dhaka, Bangladesh - 10,979,000 31. Hyderabad, India - 6,833,000 41. Harbin, China - 5,475,000 Edited by tmwelshy 2011-05-24 8:19 AM |
2011-05-24 10:11 AM in reply to: #3515427 |
Expert 1027 Zürich, Switzerland | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? Fred Doucette - 2011-05-23 2:54 PM Plissken74 - 2011-05-23 11:35 PM wow you have such a balanced view of things, especially about the course in Texas lol. Seriously I challenge you to do one of our 'easy' IMs. I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but rather in a put up or shut up kinda way. Ball is in your court.Fred Doucette - 2011-05-22 11:11 PM AndrewMT - 2011-05-23 4:44 PM Plissken74 - 2011-05-23 1:38 PM AndrewMT - 2011-05-22 8:28 PM Plissken74 - 2011-05-23 1:20 PM what is the tough part of this race? heat? swim? Heat. The conditions on the bike actually weren't bad, but the run was brutal! I say this as a spectactor, but I live here, so I run in these conditions everday.
what made it brutal? Heat and humidity combined with very still air and little to no shade. Fun times! Honestly (and I'm being VERY honest) I would love to see 'Plissken' do this race. He has gone on record in the past on this site stating that North American IMs are much, much easier to qualify for than European IMs (For Kona). I would like to see him back this up by coming to a N. American event and qualify at our 'easy' events. I think looking at at 10 hour IM from 1 course to another is difficult as the heat in Texas no doubt made for a very tough run even if the bike was very fast. So, I am asking the OP to back up the talk. Register for this 'easier' IM and put his money where his mouth is. the only problem would be to accept of cycling 180km in the middle of nowhere where probably the only people you meet on the way are the volunteers handling you food and drinks at the stations. that would kill my mind I think and it is for sure a tough part for me. then the same on the run probably... but of course, you have to decide between this scenario and a 10h00 goal...sure running in the heat or Frankfurt 9h35, hilly bike (still very fast), usually in the heat too but with a million of people on the way, supporting you, feeling like to be on the Tour de France never running or cycling alone anyway, apart of jokes or provocations, I will be there in US for IM 70.3 Syracuse in september and I want to register for IM Wisconsin. let's see if I manage to register
you take it too personal. even if I crashed running in 4hrs the marathon, ending to 11h00, I think showing up for a possible roll down for Hawaii slots would not be impossible but if I showed up for 10h27 in Zurich IM for a roll down when the last Hawaii slot went to 9h35 or so...it is very different. not saying that Zurich IM is a tough course for the bike and not that you get the same conditions of Texas....
just a consideration. then if you take it personal, I am sorry
I love US and I always come visiting around your great country. I love your friendly way as well. I am just talking about numbers on the IM results and estimation on profile I see on garmin .gpx data I download. Another example can be the following: few years ago I went for a business trip in Florida. I was in Miami and there was that week end the A1A half marathon. I said ok...1800 partecipants, let's take part. I was out of shape, 30 degrees, terrible conditions. I did a crap race, finished in 1h23. I arrived, took my bag and left. few weeks later I received in Switzerland a nice award as second of age group. I didn't even check the results online. If i go here to an half marathon with 1800people and I run in 1h23 with tough conditions and whatever, if I am in the first 100, I would be surprised. Again, numbers, fact. I am not judging. I am saying that you have much more beginners within the race population. Here it seems that we have an higher number of high level athletes within the race population. I hope you understand my point |
2011-05-24 10:12 AM in reply to: #3515499 |
Expert 1027 Zürich, Switzerland | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? tmwelshy - 2011-05-23 3:17 PM Houston is a lot of things, but middle of nowhere is not one of them. Houston is the 49th most populous city in the world. Your example of frankfurt is 72nd. Zurich did not make the top 100 (maybe not the top 1000). There are a lot of negatives about Houston, but implying it's remote and small is silly. Also, a fall half IM in NY is not quite the same as Houston's full IM in high humidity/high heat. http://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm 1. Tokyo, Japan - 32,450,000 2. Seóul, South Korea - 20,550,000 3. Mexico City, Mexico - 20,450,000 4. New York City, USA - 19,750,000 5. Mumbai, India - 19,200,000 6. Jakarta, Indonesia - 18,900,000 7. Sáo Paulo, Brazil - 18,850,000 8. Delhi, India - 18,680,000 9. Õsaka/Kobe, Japan - 17,350,000 10. Shanghai, China - 16,650,000 11. Manila, Philippines - 16,300,000 21. Dhaka, Bangladesh - 10,979,000 31. Hyderabad, India - 6,833,000 41. Harbin, China - 5,475,000
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2011-05-24 10:15 AM in reply to: #3512251 |
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2011-05-24 10:27 AM in reply to: #3514123 |
Champion 5495 Whizzzzzlandia | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? AndrewMT - 2011-05-23 1:28 PM Plissken74 - 2011-05-23 1:20 PM what is the tough part of this race? heat? swim? Heat. The conditions on the bike actually weren't bad, but the run was brutal! I say this as a spectactor, but I live here, so I run in these conditions everday. I was there as well. As a spectator and volunteer. It is hot (like OVEN HOT) and it can be windy. It's hot. Like oppressively hot. And not just hot, but humid too. I think that's the main obstacle of IMTX. The weather conditions. The water is wet, the bike is flattish, and the run is flat too. But the whole race takes place in a kiln. A humid kiln. If you can imagine it. This type of weather condition is best suited (IMO) for people who are able to live and train in the oven. I live in Chicago, and while I had many friends doing the race, there's no way I could become acclimated to 95 degrees and 98% humidity after a Chicago spring that featured 50 degrees and rain on most days. We melted as soon as we stepped off the plane. |
2011-05-24 10:45 AM in reply to: #3512251 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? I did it this year and going into the race I didn't plan on signing up for another IM for a while. But, I had so much fun during the event that I was ready to sign up for 2012 shortly after finishing. I can't wait! |
2011-05-24 11:08 PM in reply to: #3512251 |
Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: IMTX 2012 --Are you in? Our official IM thread is up and running.. http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=253732&posts=1#M3517225 |
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