H.I.T.S. Oct 2012?

Beautiful area, but seems like a stretch to call it Traverse City...I suppose HITS Kalkaska doesn't have the same ring, eh?

I'm doing the MSU tri (heated outdoor 50m pool!) that weekend - otherwise I'd at least do the sprint.  Any excuse to go drink beer and eat at Short's is a good one!

Yikes!  I'll pass...

Went back to there website and saw the full is 2.4/100 mi bike???/ 26.2  Odd

Also a 16hr cutoff and one year age groups. A lot of things are not adding up but they do have Dave Scott as a spokesman so they're probably getting the advice they need.

It's tempting, but only because no one would be crazy enough to pay those prices to freeze their backside off, so I'd have a fighting chance for AG hardware   Looks like that would be a great venue, but nothing about it makes sense.  Back when Autumn Colors was the 3rd weekend in September, it was 38 degrees when I pulled in to the state park (and I couldn't wait to get in the water to warm up).  Three weeks later in Northern MI is insane.  Additionally, why couldn't they find 6 more miles of road on the HIM bike course and 12 on the full to make them true iron distances?

@Blake, if you haven't done MSU before, you are going to love it.  I am going to be down in Lexington, KY, doing the 200 mile Bourbon Chase Relay that weekend, or I'd be there for sure.

Y'all are a bunch of sissies!  Just consider it norseman USA.    Its just a little less hilly and offers shorter distances.  

jgrindle16 - 2011-08-27 8:25 PM

matt3liv - 2011-08-27 10:53 AM

Y'all are a bunch of sissies!  Just consider it norseman USA.    Its just a little less hilly and offers shorter distances.  

 

I'll come cheer you on next year for your first almost full!

You may have to.  I'm working on the wife ....

I can't put my finger on it yet, but something just won't let me say no to this race yet. Nothing makes sense about it. I have been to TC in early October and seen SNOW!!! But how could a new company make such a boneheaded misjudgement and pick a race here then?

Part of me thinks the date will get switched with a warmer climate race and move it up a few months or possibly get canceled all together due to low interest. But then I see they have Dave Scott helping out with some things and think if they have some good people in their company, surely they must know something about that weekend that I don't. What gives

I was excited when I first heard about this then started thinking about the weather.  Generally, this time of year, morning temps are in the thirties to forties.  Frost on the ground, maybe some snowflakes overnight.... I don't really want to swim in water that's about 60 degrees then bike  with temps in the forties.  Sure, the view will be great but I can't imagine enjoying it when I'm hypothermic. 

Great area, but I'm not sold on it yet, even as a local. 

Do you think the water will still be in the 60's? My guess was low 50's at tops

East Bay is already in the 50's.  It was in the high 50's three weeks ago.  I'm guessing it'll be low fifties this week.  This is in a very shallow area that will literally warm up notably from a day of calm water and high sun.

I have no idea what that means for Lake Bellaire.  I have a friend on the lake.  I could ask him to take some readings for us.

Initially, I thought it would be doable for me.  I'm much prefer a cool/cold day than a super hot one.  However, look at the forecast for this weekend.  Its going to be awesome!  77 and sunny on Saturday with a low of 57 from Friday night.  I've never done more than a mile in a legitimately cold lake, so I can't say how I'd feel after 2.4, but my gut says as long it was close to 60, I'd be fine.

What is the water like at Coeur d'Alene?  Is that typically the coldest water in an Ironman?

This year it was recorded as 54.8. I  wore a full wetsuit, booties and a neoprene cap and was cold but comfortable. I got out and couldn't really feel my feet for the first 20 miles of the bike. But that was a nice day that got into the mid to upper 70's. Chances of TC having a weekend as nice as this upcoming weekend two years in a row are extremely unlikely.

matt3liv - 2011-10-07 8:32 AM I was planning to do some comparisons between the average temps, as well as the record highs and lows of different events, just to see how it shaped up.  However, when I went to the hits site to figure out exactly where the race course would take you, I can't find any info on the course.  Didn't they have something about it before?  I thought it was all based around Bellaire and Shanty Creek.  Am I off on that?  Does anyone see the info?  Moving in a couple miles from the big lake could have a notable effect on temps.  Averages are 64-65 for the high and 40-41 for the low.  Records ... lets not talk about those!  

I have yet to see anything on the courses just that Shanty Creek would be the host hotel and a "challenging" bike and run course.

Your killing me, what is the record low high 20's low 30's

Don't do this to yourself, you really don't want to know ...

Lows: fifth was 20, sixth 26, seventh 23.

Highs: fifth 87, sixth 84, seventh 87.