Subject: RE: I've been Shiv'dWell there are several reason for this. Being a larger rider, 227 lbs, the folks at Specialized recommended that I go with a large frame. Now at 5'10", I am toward the bottom of the range for this size frame, but the Shiv has incredible adjustability. After loosing 250 lbs, I still carry a lot of weight and loose skin in my front torso area. Yes, we started off the fit, with the bars slammed to the tube like everyone wants, but it your knees hit your gut, that's not good. Also it was do to lung, rib cage flexibility. When we had the bars lower, it constricted my ability to take in full lung capacity. I assume it might have something to do with being new to this position, maybe my body type or what ever. It does not do anyone any good to slam the bars, be more aero, if you can not exchange oxygen to fuel your body. I find it humorous to see all the post where people don't get proper fits and they have the bike slammed. I wonder if they take everything into account when setting it up for themselves. A Lamborghini is fast, but with a clogged air filter, its no faster than a Prius. I hope my flexibility improves, and then I can move the bars down more to get more aero, but for now this is what I deal with. And last, my height vs leg length vs frame size makes the seat lower to get the right leg angle. Im sure this will start a slew of responses, for and against my excuses, but thats my excuses, and Im sticking with it! ROY |