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dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 

Do you think a couple cheesburgers at school lunch is too much to ask for?



Why don't you just make them at home and send them with the kids.



2012-09-28 1:32 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:52 PM
dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 

Do you think a couple cheesburgers at school lunch is too much to ask for?

So is it regular cheeseburgers or double cheeseburgers? 

C'mon, you flip-flop more than Romney.

2012-09-28 1:48 PM
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jmhpsu93 - 2012-09-28 1:32 PM
Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:52 PM
dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 

Do you think a couple cheesburgers at school lunch is too much to ask for?

So is it regular cheeseburgers or double cheeseburgers? 

C'mon, you flip-flop more than Romney.

Whatever the kid can eat is good with me....and fries...and a chocolate shake....he's hungry!!

2012-09-28 1:53 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:48 PM
jmhpsu93 - 2012-09-28 1:32 PM
Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:52 PM
dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 

Do you think a couple cheesburgers at school lunch is too much to ask for?

So is it regular cheeseburgers or double cheeseburgers? 

C'mon, you flip-flop more than Romney.

Whatever the kid can eat is good with me....and fries...and a chocolate shake....he's hungry!!

Why don't you just give him enough money to buy two lunches?

2012-09-28 1:58 PM
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kevin_trapp - 2012-09-28 1:53 PM
Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:48 PM
jmhpsu93 - 2012-09-28 1:32 PM
Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:52 PM
dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 

Do you think a couple cheesburgers at school lunch is too much to ask for?

So is it regular cheeseburgers or double cheeseburgers? 

C'mon, you flip-flop more than Romney.

Whatever the kid can eat is good with me....and fries...and a chocolate shake....he's hungry!!

Why don't you just give him enough money to buy two lunches?

Because he doesn't need a 1/2 lb. of raw carrots....he needs 3 double cheesebugers.

2012-09-28 2:10 PM
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dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 



According to statistics (I like the facts) 65 percent of SS recipients are aged 65 or older, 23 percent are disabled and the rest are `other', which includes early retirees or surviving beneficiaries. That shows that MOST are in fact, over the age of retirement.

OK put it into context. How much of the amount of money social security pays out annually is fraud -- what percentage?


2012-09-28 4:58 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-28 2:58 PM
kevin_trapp - 2012-09-28 1:53 PM
Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:48 PM
jmhpsu93 - 2012-09-28 1:32 PM
Left Brain - 2012-09-28 1:52 PM
dillrob - 2012-09-28 12:39 PM

Social Security's dramatic cost increase is not just a result of "old people" as previously stated.  The number of Social Security disability claims and recipients has skyrocked since 2008.  Not sure how so many people suddenly became disabled during this relatively short time frame, but my guess is that it has to do more with the economy, unemployment running out and tougher welfare requirements than actual disability.  Caveat, caveat - of course there are many truly disabled people who need help.  However, the increase (applications up over 27% in 2010) point clearly toward abuse.  With an average recipient age of 49, this becomes unsustainable.  So, don't jump to the conclusion that social security is just a sunk cost that is needed to take care of the elderly and truly disabled.  Do a google search and you'll plenty of websites instructing on what you need to say and do to be considered disabled so you can collect benefits.  I am sickened to think that people, their lawyers/advocates and their doctors lie about having disabilities so they can fleece us. 

Do you think a couple cheesburgers at school lunch is too much to ask for?

So is it regular cheeseburgers or double cheeseburgers? 

C'mon, you flip-flop more than Romney.

Whatever the kid can eat is good with me....and fries...and a chocolate shake....he's hungry!!

Why don't you just give him enough money to buy two lunches?

Because he doesn't need a 1/2 lb. of raw carrots....he needs 3 double cheesebugers.

No one needs more than one burger. At least, not the burgers I get....

2012-09-28 8:04 PM
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Haven't read more than the first page of this but I have to say, I ate "junk" food every single day at school.  Guess what, I wasn't obese, fat, out of shape, overweight or anything else.  Know why?  Because I wasn't a product of a lazy family and a stagnant lifestyle.  Changing school provided lunches to "healthy options" is a farce and will do absolutely zero to addressing the problem of a disgusting, fat nation.  
2012-09-28 8:33 PM
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http://www.healthteacher.com/news/Article/1128#.UGZN_pG9KSM

This is just one article I found when searching "unhealthy school lunches". So in 2010 a study's says a majority of parents think school lunches are unhealthy. "Oh no, look what the government is feeding our kids, I can't believe it!"

Government changes it. "Oh no, look what the government is feeding our kids, I can't believe it!"

Perfect example of damned if you do and damned if you don't....
2012-09-28 9:34 PM
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I actually can't believe this thread is 11 pages. School lunches sucked for me 25 years ago, and nothing has changed. It wasn't even good pizza, burgers and fries... crappy pizza burgers and fries and not enough back then. Nothing has changed.
2012-09-28 9:44 PM
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powerman - 2012-09-28 10:34 PM I actually can't believe this thread is 11 pages. School lunches sucked for me 25 years ago, and nothing has changed. It wasn't even good pizza, burgers and fries... crappy pizza burgers and fries and not enough back then. Nothing has changed.

Powerman, you didn't dig the chicken patties, burgers, and fish squares?  Fries too?  I loved that garbage...and when they didn't have those (or spags/meatballs) I would just use my lunch money to buy ice cream sandwiches...you could get 4 of those for about $1.20, similar to the cost of a whole lunch back then.  I remember those lunches fondly.  

Was I thin?  Yes.  Healthy?  For the most part, yes...because I never stopped moving and played sports all the time...That said, why would anyone be against making food healthier for kids?  I still don't understand that.

My only addition to the healthy food change would be physical activity requirements in school.  Get 'em moving, have it be fun...win, win.

 



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2012-09-29 8:11 AM
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I can see I'm a little late to this party but if B.O. was so interested in actually healthy children, he should make sure the schools have a P.E. class. I was shocked to hear a while back that schools eliminated these classes, are you kidding me??

Also, I can probably count on one hand the amount of school lunches I had, it just wasn't an issue, we didn't have that kind of extra money. Mom just sent us out the door with a brown bag lunch that was generally either pbj or baloney and then a yummy sugary thing like a SuzieQ. Don't think she really thought about "healthy", it was just her making lunches for the kids.

We were also like never home, it was a pitstop to eat, then we were out the door to play with all the neighborhood kids. Unfortunately it's a different world and I wouldn't let my kids now have the freedom I had then.

 It was just a different lifestlye, kids played, there wasn't a ton of homework or video games to keep em in the house.

Oh and looks like my kids will have to brown bag it too b/c they're in a private school that doesn't even have a cafeteria. I'm not nearly as nice as my mom so they'll have to start making their own lunches once they get old enough Wink

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2012-09-29 12:30 PM
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I can see I'm a little late to this party but if B.O. was so interested in actually healthy children, he should make sure the schools have a P.E. class. I was shocked to hear a while back that schools eliminated these classes, are you kidding me??

Also, I can probably count on one hand the amount of school lunches I had, it just wasn't an issue, we didn't have that kind of extra money. Mom just sent us out the door with a brown bag lunch that was generally either pbj or baloney and then a yummy sugary thing like a SuzieQ. Don't think she really thought about "healthy", it was just her making lunches for the kids.

We were also like never home, it was a pitstop to eat, then we were out the door to play with all the neighborhood kids. Unfortunately it's a different world and I wouldn't let my kids now have the freedom I had then.

 It was just a different lifestlye, kids played, there wasn't a ton of homework or video games to keep em in the house.

Oh and looks like my kids will have to brown bag it too b/c they're in a private school that doesn't even have a cafeteria. I'm not nearly as nice as my mom so they'll have to start making their own lunches once they get old enough Wink

Patsy



How would he do that, just give more money the government doesn't have to the schools?

Look, when 2 percent of the entire U.S. budget goes to education, it's going to be hard to fund gym programs, which are in some cash-strapped school districts considered a luxury. Schools are too busy trying to get their kids to pass the standardized tests under No Child Left Behind to worry about things like physical education. Maybe at your kids' private school, they have the money for all the programs in the world (but not a cafeteria) but at some public schools cash is hard to come by for jumpropes and gym teachers.

This goes back to the whole irony about people complaining about a nanny state, then saying `Why doesn't the government force my kids to exercise???' How about this -- if parents don't like the gym class offerings, then instead of buying their kids a Playstation, make them go play outside. Stop blaming the government and the schools for everything -- it's not up to them to parent children, that's the parents' job.
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PatsyID - 2012-09-29 8:11 AM

I can see I'm a little late to this party but if B.O. was so interested in actually healthy children, he should make sure the schools have a P.E. class. I was shocked to hear a while back that schools eliminated these classes, are you kidding me??

Also, I can probably count on one hand the amount of school lunches I had, it just wasn't an issue, we didn't have that kind of extra money. Mom just sent us out the door with a brown bag lunch that was generally either pbj or baloney and then a yummy sugary thing like a SuzieQ. Don't think she really thought about "healthy", it was just her making lunches for the kids.

We were also like never home, it was a pitstop to eat, then we were out the door to play with all the neighborhood kids. Unfortunately it's a different world and I wouldn't let my kids now have the freedom I had then.

 It was just a different lifestlye, kids played, there wasn't a ton of homework or video games to keep em in the house.

Oh and looks like my kids will have to brown bag it too b/c they're in a private school that doesn't even have a cafeteria. I'm not nearly as nice as my mom so they'll have to start making their own lunches once they get old enough Wink

Patsy

How would he do that, just give more money the government doesn't have to the schools? Look, when 2 percent of the entire U.S. budget goes to education, it's going to be hard to fund gym programs, which are in some cash-strapped school districts considered a luxury. Schools are too busy trying to get their kids to pass the standardized tests under No Child Left Behind to worry about things like physical education. Maybe at your kids' private school, they have the money for all the programs in the world (but not a cafeteria) but at some public schools cash is hard to come by for jumpropes and gym teachers. This goes back to the whole irony about people complaining about a nanny state, then saying `Why doesn't the government force my kids to exercise???' How about this -- if parents don't like the gym class offerings, then instead of buying their kids a Playstation, make them go play outside. Stop blaming the government and the schools for everything -- it's not up to them to parent children, that's the parents' job.

I agree 100% with this.....but in my case, can I just get 3 doubles cheese burgers, fries, onion rings, a chocolate shake, and a slice of apple pie for my kid?  I'll pay for it.

2012-09-29 12:46 PM
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Left ... you can but only if you share. I could go for a chocolate shake right about now. THat sounds really good.
2012-09-29 1:20 PM
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I fully support burgers and shakes! That is my go-to comfort yummy food, well that and a lg order of fries, oh, man you guys are making me hungry!

 Hijacking sorry..but I find it interesting when I'm in full on train mode I watch most everything that I eat but now that I've been semi laid up for ~6wks it's total debauchery, what's the deal?? up 4-5lbs and I'm like ug, sucks, as I drive up to BK and order a #1, weird. It's a slippery slope, can't wait to get back to tri-me.

Ok, continue on.

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