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I have coffee until 2 pm.  I have water until I'm done with the day's workout.  I have beer until I go to bed.  I wake up and I start over.

I don't count how many beers anymore than I count how many waters or coffees.  I don't know which of the three makes me faster or slower, easier or harder to recover with, or any other effect on my triathlon/endurance hobby that I've had for 30 years.

I could be an alcoholic, a caffiene junky, an adrenaline junky, or just a guy who doesn't try to overanalyze a good time and a lifestyle that has given me nothing but enjoyment, and now a way to keep spending time with my children as they become teenagers and young adults.

I'm partial to Sierra Nevada products......Ruthless Rye IPA is excellent.  Torpedo IPA at nearly 9% is fantastic.....but I once had too many and got lost in my own home trying to find the bathroom.




Three cheers!

I'll take an Ommegang now please.



*Hands thebigb a Hennepin*


2013-06-13 7:15 PM
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Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy is a nice refresher.


they go down sooooo fast on hot day, if you like the shandy you would also like Shiner Ruby Red Bird!
2013-06-13 7:27 PM
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Beer is proof that god loves us all. amen
2013-06-13 7:42 PM
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Originally posted by thebigb

Originally posted by Left Brain

I have coffee until 2 pm.  I have water until I'm done with the day's workout.  I have beer until I go to bed.  I wake up and I start over.

I don't count how many beers anymore than I count how many waters or coffees.  I don't know which of the three makes me faster or slower, easier or harder to recover with, or any other effect on my triathlon/endurance hobby that I've had for 30 years.

I could be an alcoholic, a caffiene junky, an adrenaline junky, or just a guy who doesn't try to overanalyze a good time and a lifestyle that has given me nothing but enjoyment, and now a way to keep spending time with my children as they become teenagers and young adults.

I'm partial to Sierra Nevada products......Ruthless Rye IPA is excellent.  Torpedo IPA at nearly 9% is fantastic.....but I once had too many and got lost in my own home trying to find the bathroom.




Three cheers!

I'll take an Ommegang now please.



*Hands thebigb a Hennepin*


That sounds delightful. So does a Bell's Two Hearted.
2013-06-13 8:51 PM
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Did anyone else read this article in Runners World (is Beer Good for Runners)? http://www.runnersworld.com/drinks-hydration/beer-run.

Personally, my favorite part of a long run or ride is an outdoor beer shower. Does that make me an alcoholic exhibitionist? Cheers, Nancy
2013-06-13 9:29 PM
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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
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Originally posted by TrBeau17
Originally posted by cnseguraAdd me to the Yes demographic. I'm just now starting to get into home brewing so I imagine there will be a fair amount of experimenting with what beer is best for recovery and as a pre-race boost (I have a feeling that last one will take some time)
Homebrewing for 4 years now and be careful the hobby is just as addicting as tri !! They are both rewarding in their own way.
OT ......... is there an equivalent website to BT for your other addiction? I just bought a basic homebrew kit


Today's workout is brought to you by: Stone Ruination

HomeBrewTalk.com is a great forum for home brewing, lots of very knowledgeable people on there. I am not a member so I have no idea what "member extras" they have, but great site for recipes and advice.


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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
Originally posted by thebigb
Originally posted by jeetkevdo
Originally posted by thebigb
Originally posted by Left Brain

I have coffee until 2 pm.  I have water until I'm done with the day's workout.  I have beer until I go to bed.  I wake up and I start over.

I don't count how many beers anymore than I count how many waters or coffees.  I don't know which of the three makes me faster or slower, easier or harder to recover with, or any other effect on my triathlon/endurance hobby that I've had for 30 years.

I could be an alcoholic, a caffiene junky, an adrenaline junky, or just a guy who doesn't try to overanalyze a good time and a lifestyle that has given me nothing but enjoyment, and now a way to keep spending time with my children as they become teenagers and young adults.

I'm partial to Sierra Nevada products......Ruthless Rye IPA is excellent.  Torpedo IPA at nearly 9% is fantastic.....but I once had too many and got lost in my own home trying to find the bathroom.

Three cheers! I'll take an Ommegang now please.
*Hands thebigb a Hennepin*
That sounds delightful. So does a Bell's Two Hearted.

I'm going to have to hunt down  some Ommegang beers.......Bell's Two Hearted, on the other hand, I don't need an introduction to that one.....one of the finest for sure.

Around 40 years ago when my love of beer began.....my Grandpa would have my brother and I take his tin bucket down to the tavern and have it filled with Falstaff....we'd sip the foam on the way home.  By the time we were 15 or so he was giving us money to get another bucket for ourselves.  It was good to grow up in a big Irish family....beer is food.  I wish he was still around to see the explosion of craft beers....he would have loved it. 

The work is done for the day....sipping on a Boulevard Single-Wide IPA....a damn fine beer. 

jford - I've never felt the need to defend my love of beer....that would be uncivilized.



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2013-06-13 11:29 PM
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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
Originally posted by k1200rsvt

Originally posted by triosaurus

Originally posted by TrBeau17
Originally posted by cnseguraAdd me to the Yes demographic. I'm just now starting to get into home brewing so I imagine there will be a fair amount of experimenting with what beer is best for recovery and as a pre-race boost (I have a feeling that last one will take some time)
Homebrewing for 4 years now and be careful the hobby is just as addicting as tri !! They are both rewarding in their own way.
OT ......... is there an equivalent website to BT for your other addiction? I just bought a basic homebrew kit


Today's workout is brought to you by: Stone Ruination

HomeBrewTalk.com is a great forum for home brewing, lots of very knowledgeable people on there. I am not a member so I have no idea what "member extras" they have, but great site for recipes and advice.


+1. Learning a ton from that site. Great resource but no suggestions that I can find on recovery brews...
2013-06-13 11:51 PM
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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by thebigb
Originally posted by jeetkevdo
Originally posted by thebigb
Originally posted by Left Brain

I have coffee until 2 pm.  I have water until I'm done with the day's workout.  I have beer until I go to bed.  I wake up and I start over.

I don't count how many beers anymore than I count how many waters or coffees.  I don't know which of the three makes me faster or slower, easier or harder to recover with, or any other effect on my triathlon/endurance hobby that I've had for 30 years.

I could be an alcoholic, a caffiene junky, an adrenaline junky, or just a guy who doesn't try to overanalyze a good time and a lifestyle that has given me nothing but enjoyment, and now a way to keep spending time with my children as they become teenagers and young adults.

I'm partial to Sierra Nevada products......Ruthless Rye IPA is excellent.  Torpedo IPA at nearly 9% is fantastic.....but I once had too many and got lost in my own home trying to find the bathroom.

Three cheers! I'll take an Ommegang now please.
*Hands thebigb a Hennepin*
That sounds delightful. So does a Bell's Two Hearted.

I'm going to have to hunt down  some Ommegang beers.......Bell's Two Hearted, on the other hand, I don't need an introduction to that one.....one of the finest for sure.

Around 40 years ago when my love of beer began.....my Grandpa would have my brother and I take his tin bucket down to the tavern and have it filled with Falstaff....we'd sip the foam on the way home.  By the time we were 15 or so he was giving us money to get another bucket for ourselves.  It was good to grow up in a big Irish family....beer is food.  I wish he was still around to see the explosion of craft beers....he would have loved it. 

The work is done for the day....sipping on a Boulevard Single-Wide IPA....a damn fine beer. 

jford - I've never felt the need to defend my love of beer....that would be uncivilized.





My Grandpa used to drink Falstaff. :)
2013-06-14 1:35 AM
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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
Originally posted by k1200rsvt
Originally posted by triosaurus
Originally posted by TrBeau17
Originally posted by cnseguraAdd me to the Yes demographic. I'm just now starting to get into home brewing so I imagine there will be a fair amount of experimenting with what beer is best for recovery and as a pre-race boost (I have a feeling that last one will take some time)
Homebrewing for 4 years now and be careful the hobby is just as addicting as tri !! They are both rewarding in their own way.
OT ......... is there an equivalent website to BT for your other addiction? I just bought a basic homebrew kit
Today's workout is brought to you by: Stone RuinationHomeBrewTalk.com is a great forum for home brewing, lots of very knowledgeable people on there. I am not a member so I have no idea what "member extras" they have, but great site for recipes and advice.
Thanks!
2013-06-14 4:51 AM
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Originally posted by tlancer23
Originally posted by erik.norgaard
Originally posted by VGT
Originally posted by erik.norgaardI must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports.
Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted.
OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives.
Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences.I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage.
There is a world of difference between having 1-2 drinks responsibly and being an alcoholic. IMO, alcohol is like most things in life. In moderation, it won't hurt you (and may even have health benefits based on several studies), but taken to excess it can be extremely bad for you.


2013-06-14 9:34 AM
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We're heading to Cleveland this weekend for a family reunion (and memorial of sorts for my wife's grandmother who passed some months ago in her LATE 90's!  At least my kids got some some good genes, all from their mom) and a Dad's day race that we always did when we lived there.

Should be fun, but we're both really looking forward to the Commodore Perry IPA from Great Lakes Brewing Co.  This stuff is absolutely the bomb - one of the early beers to crack 7% (around 7.4% IIRC).  When we first tried it, we wondered why we liked it so well.  Tongue out

Our friends there are having a get together midday Sunday after the race and I am heartily looking forward to "sailing with the Commodore" and crew again!  

Got to try and find some of the Lake Erie Monster, as well, but that's seasonal and we never seem to time trips to visit Kim's family quite right to try it.

Mmmmmmmmmm……  Commodore Perry IPA………  mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………. 

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2013-06-14 11:21 AM
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yum, beer, not just a breakfast food.  Wait, what was the question?


Founders Breakfast Stout is called breakfast for a reason afterall. :D
2013-06-14 11:24 AM
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It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not.

I disagree with this 100%

x2.

What's unhealthy is a fear of alcohol or teetotaling nature, like one that thinks alcohol is unhealthy. It elevates alcohol to a taboo level and opens the door for normalized abuse.
2013-06-14 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by dbmata
Originally posted by bzgl40 yum, beer, not just a breakfast food.  Wait, what was the question?
Founders Breakfast Stout is called breakfast for a reason afterall. :D

Along these lines, have you guys tried Rogue Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale? Talk about breakfast beer!

2013-06-14 11:49 AM
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I have self-identified as a "functioning alcoholic" in another thread. I don't often drink to excess, but I drink often, I have a habit of enjoying alcohol and I'm not willing to give it up. I think by "technical" definitions that makes me an alcoholic. I guess I'm stuck on step one.
I have an unnamed affliction which causes me to hate seeing full bottles and cans, therefore I drink them down. I also am OCD about consistency, so generally I need to check to see if the other 5 beers in my 6 pack taste like the first. Combine these two conditions, and down goes the entire 6 pack.

For all those that have mentioned Founders, I agree. Grand Rapids, Michigan has turned into a phenomenal beer city. I basically don't even allow myself to go to Founders because I'll end up wanting to try multiple high alcohol content beers (~9%), and soon I'll be making phone calls for a ride home. Since the name is applicable to me as well, I also tend to drink a few of their Dirty Bastards. Their two IPAs (Centennial and All Day) are outstanding as well.


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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by dbmata
Originally posted by bzgl40 yum, beer, not just a breakfast food.  Wait, what was the question?
Founders Breakfast Stout is called breakfast for a reason afterall. :D

Along these lines, have you guys tried Rogue Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale? Talk about breakfast beer!




I was SO excited for this beer when I first saw it at Total Wine. Sad to say I drank half a glass and dumped the rest

And thanks to this dang, cursed thread I couldn't step away from the 22 or Racer 5 IPA last night and it found a new, albeit very temporary, home in my refrigerator.
2013-06-14 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by switch

I have self-identified as a "functioning alcoholic" in another thread. I don't often drink to excess, but I drink often, I have a habit of enjoying alcohol and I'm not willing to give it up. I think by "technical" definitions that makes me an alcoholic. I guess I'm stuck on step one.
I have an unnamed affliction which causes me to hate seeing full bottles and cans, therefore I drink them down. I also am OCD about consistency, so generally I need to check to see if the other 5 beers in my 6 pack taste like the first. Combine these two conditions, and down goes the entire 6 pack.

For all those that have mentioned Founders, I agree. Grand Rapids, Michigan has turned into a phenomenal beer city. I basically don't even allow myself to go to Founders because I'll end up wanting to try multiple high alcohol content beers (~9%), and soon I'll be making phone calls for a ride home. Since the name is applicable to me as well, I also tend to drink a few of their Dirty Bastards. Their two IPAs (Centennial and All Day) are outstanding as well.


Oh...I know now where I'm going after Steelhead! Thanks
2013-06-14 12:07 PM
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After IMTX 2013 I went home and thought that a beer would be a fantastic idea. It wasn't heavy, just a cold Coors Light with some salt and a little lime. My wife had been herding the cats all day - the kids - so I told her I'd take our youngest (8 months) to his crib for the night. In typical father of the year fashion, I had my boy in one hand and a beer in the other as I painstakingly made my way up the stairs and into his room. I sat down in a chair and kinda rocked the little guy to sleep as I reflected on my first Ironman. All of the sudden I started sweating uncontrollably - dude no way - and getting dizzy - SOB. I quickly stood up, praying I wouldn't pass out with my son in my hands, and laid my little guy in his crib. He looked up at me with a smile, as if he knew. Satisfied he was "safe" and outta my spray zone, I walked three to four feet to the bathroom - a long distance after an ironman. I raised the seat and just puked half that beer right back up. Immediately the sweating stopped, as well as the dizziness. Usually I have no problem drinking a beer after a race, but I guess it just depends on the race.
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Originally posted by JAngell After IMTX 2013 I went home and thought that a beer would be a fantastic idea. It wasn't heavy, just a cold Coors Light with some salt and a little lime. My wife had been herding the cats all day - the kids - so I told her I'd take our youngest (8 months) to his crib for the night. In typical father of the year fashion, I had my boy in one hand and a beer in the other as I painstakingly made my way up the stairs and into his room. I sat down in a chair and kinda rocked the little guy to sleep as I reflected on my first Ironman. All of the sudden I started sweating uncontrollably - dude no way - and getting dizzy - SOB. I quickly stood up, praying I wouldn't pass out with my son in my hands, and laid my little guy in his crib. He looked up at me with a smile, as if he knew. Satisfied he was "safe" and outta my spray zone, I walked three to four feet to the bathroom - a long distance after an ironman. I raised the seat and just puked half that beer right back up. Immediately the sweating stopped, as well as the dizziness. Usually I have no problem drinking a beer after a race, but I guess it just depends on the race.

I think the problem is Coors Light is not beer....

I'm half kidding, the other half says it's just water, no flavor just mass produced garbage (insert Bud, Miller etc.)

2013-06-14 1:05 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by dbmata
Originally posted by bzgl40 yum, beer, not just a breakfast food.  Wait, what was the question?
Founders Breakfast Stout is called breakfast for a reason afterall. :D

Along these lines, have you guys tried Rogue Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale? Talk about breakfast beer!




I was SO excited for this beer when I first saw it at Total Wine. Sad to say I drank half a glass and dumped the rest

And thanks to this dang, cursed thread I couldn't step away from the 22 or Racer 5 IPA last night and it found a new, albeit very temporary, home in my refrigerator.


I've been told that about the voodoo bacon maple. That it's heavily fake in flavor.

When I want something like that though, I'll get a Mephistopheles and a maple bacon bar.

Racer 5 is good, a little too hoppy for me.


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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
Originally posted by dbmata

Originally posted by thebigb

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by dbmata
Originally posted by bzgl40 yum, beer, not just a breakfast food.  Wait, what was the question?
Founders Breakfast Stout is called breakfast for a reason afterall. :D

Along these lines, have you guys tried Rogue Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale? Talk about breakfast beer!




I was SO excited for this beer when I first saw it at Total Wine. Sad to say I drank half a glass and dumped the rest

And thanks to this dang, cursed thread I couldn't step away from the 22 or Racer 5 IPA last night and it found a new, albeit very temporary, home in my refrigerator.


I've been told that about the voodoo bacon maple. That it's heavily fake in flavor.

When I want something like that though, I'll get a Mephistopheles and a maple bacon bar.

Racer 5 is good, a little too hoppy for me.


I've been known to make bacon infused bourbon which turns out pretty tasty.

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2013-06-14 2:38 PM
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I don't necessarily think about beer after a training or race, but I sure do think about it after coming down a river on a kayak.


Don't do as much whitewater since I got serious about this tri thing, but this.

I still manage about a 6 pack a week and have no illusions about recovery benefits. In fact, when I was really pushing my training volume for a HIM back in May, I cut out the stuff entirely. It was hard enough to stomach all the food I needed to eat while dealing with not enough rest/sleep. I respect and admire those athletes who give 100% to the sport. High 60's would be pretty good for me, and I like a beer after a long day.
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Originally posted by thebigb

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by dbmata
Originally posted by bzgl40 yum, beer, not just a breakfast food.  Wait, what was the question?
Founders Breakfast Stout is called breakfast for a reason afterall. :D

Along these lines, have you guys tried Rogue Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale? Talk about breakfast beer!




I was SO excited for this beer when I first saw it at Total Wine. Sad to say I drank half a glass and dumped the rest

And thanks to this dang, cursed thread I couldn't step away from the 22 or Racer 5 IPA last night and it found a new, albeit very temporary, home in my refrigerator.


This is the only beer I've ever willingly dumped out in my life. WAY too smoky. Otherwise Rogue makes some of the best beers I've ever had. Dead Guy is easily one of my top 5.
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Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?
Originally posted by thebigb

Originally posted by MSU_Brad

Originally posted by switch

I have self-identified as a "functioning alcoholic" in another thread. I don't often drink to excess, but I drink often, I have a habit of enjoying alcohol and I'm not willing to give it up. I think by "technical" definitions that makes me an alcoholic. I guess I'm stuck on step one.
I have an unnamed affliction which causes me to hate seeing full bottles and cans, therefore I drink them down. I also am OCD about consistency, so generally I need to check to see if the other 5 beers in my 6 pack taste like the first. Combine these two conditions, and down goes the entire 6 pack.

For all those that have mentioned Founders, I agree. Grand Rapids, Michigan has turned into a phenomenal beer city. I basically don't even allow myself to go to Founders because I'll end up wanting to try multiple high alcohol content beers (~9%), and soon I'll be making phone calls for a ride home. Since the name is applicable to me as well, I also tend to drink a few of their Dirty Bastards. Their two IPAs (Centennial and All Day) are outstanding as well.


Oh...I know now where I'm going after Steelhead! Thanks
Nice long drive up from Steelhead to GR for Founders. Shorter to head over to Bell's in Kalamazoo, but personally think the Founders is worth it! You will have earned whatever beers you want after completing Steelhead, especially if the swim isn't calm.
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