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 2013-06-13 11:46 AM in reply to: mehaner |
Regular  5477    LHOTP |  Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"?Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". |
| 2013-06-13 11:46 AM in reply to: switch |
Champion 14571  the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! |
| 2013-06-13 11:49 AM in reply to: mehaner |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! That's because alcoholics drink bloodies past noon. |
| 2013-06-13 11:52 AM in reply to: thebigb |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by mehaner That's because alcoholics drink bloodies past noon. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! Crying laughing! |
| 2013-06-13 12:01 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
| Canyon, Texas | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. I apologize for the confusion, in my defense, I did start a new paragraph to separate the ideas, additionally, I also used a qualifier to prevent over-generalization. I admitted to having one occasional drink, I don't think that makes me or anyone an alcoholic. |
| 2013-06-13 12:38 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Extreme Veteran 929 , Kobenhavns Kommune | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by erik.norgaard OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Super interesting perspective. All though I disagree with the bolded. OK, loads of replies on my view. Well, I think the power of marketing is grossly underestimated. There are loads of studies of these things. There's a reason the candy is placed next to the counter in the supermarket. Guess what: They sell more. A supermarket tried to nudge customers to consume fruit instead and placed a selection of ready to eat fruit next to the counter. Guess what: Fruit was up and candy down! Nobody forces it down your throat, but nudging can help people make the healthy choices. Companies nudges you all the time towards making certain choices, they just never think about you or your health, such as when they ask you if you want a large X. Fact is that our ability to always make the conscious, responsible choice is vastly overrated. Currently there is a growing awareness of healthy lifestyle, diet and exercise. When breweries and liquor companies sponsor events related to a healthy lifestyle, it's not just about displaying their brand it's about piggy bagging on the lifestyle and become an integral part of it. Guess what: It works. Problem is that there is no evidence that alcohol consumption has any positive effect on your health. Anyway, I'm not suggesting to take away your post-race beer, I too enjoy a beer every so often. I just don't think alcohol should be associated with sports (and much less so with motor sports) and a healthy lifestyle. |
| 2013-06-13 2:10 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 1234 West Michigan | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by erik.norgaard Originally posted by lisac957 OK, loads of replies on my view. Well, I think the power of marketing is grossly underestimated. There are loads of studies of these things. There's a reason the candy is placed next to the counter in the supermarket. Guess what: They sell more. A supermarket tried to nudge customers to consume fruit instead and placed a selection of ready to eat fruit next to the counter. Guess what: Fruit was up and candy down! Nobody forces it down your throat, but nudging can help people make the healthy choices. Companies nudges you all the time towards making certain choices, they just never think about you or your health, such as when they ask you if you want a large X. Fact is that our ability to always make the conscious, responsible choice is vastly overrated. Currently there is a growing awareness of healthy lifestyle, diet and exercise. When breweries and liquor companies sponsor events related to a healthy lifestyle, it's not just about displaying their brand it's about piggy bagging on the lifestyle and become an integral part of it. Guess what: It works. Problem is that there is no evidence that alcohol consumption has any positive effect on your health. Anyway, I'm not suggesting to take away your post-race beer, I too enjoy a beer every so often. I just don't think alcohol should be associated with sports (and much less so with motor sports) and a healthy lifestyle. Originally posted by erik.norgaard OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Super interesting perspective. All though I disagree with the bolded. You make a rather large jump from suggestive sales at the grocery store to sponsorship banners at a race... Now if a person suffering from alcohol related issues runs a race and feels anxiety as they walk past the beer tent I agree that would be difficult....However I don't believe you penalize the whole for the few... And similar to what TheBigB said in an earlier post, I cringe when I see the sheer size of many people walking in and out of Taco Bell (insert any fast food place really) however a Taco Bell branded event doesn't change my thinking of fast food... Edited by TriMike 2013-06-13 2:10 PM |
| 2013-06-13 2:25 PM in reply to: TriMike |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? I have coffee until 2 pm. I have water until I'm done with the day's workout. I have beer until I go to bed. I wake up and I start over. I don't count how many beers anymore than I count how many waters or coffees. I don't know which of the three makes me faster or slower, easier or harder to recover with, or any other effect on my triathlon/endurance hobby that I've had for 30 years. I could be an alcoholic, a caffiene junky, an adrenaline junky, or just a guy who doesn't try to overanalyze a good time and a lifestyle that has given me nothing but enjoyment, and now a way to keep spending time with my children as they become teenagers and young adults. I'm partial to Sierra Nevada products......Ruthless Rye IPA is excellent. Torpedo IPA at nearly 9% is fantastic.....but I once had too many and got lost in my own home trying to find the bathroom. |
| 2013-06-13 2:31 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by Left Brain I have coffee until 2 pm. I have water until I'm done with the day's workout. I have beer until I go to bed. I wake up and I start over. I don't count how many beers anymore than I count how many waters or coffees. I don't know which of the three makes me faster or slower, easier or harder to recover with, or any other effect on my triathlon/endurance hobby that I've had for 30 years. I could be an alcoholic, a caffiene junky, an adrenaline junky, or just a guy who doesn't try to overanalyze a good time and a lifestyle that has given me nothing but enjoyment, and now a way to keep spending time with my children as they become teenagers and young adults. I'm partial to Sierra Nevada products......Ruthless Rye IPA is excellent. Torpedo IPA at nearly 9% is fantastic.....but I once had too many and got lost in my own home trying to find the bathroom. Three cheers! I'll take an Ommegang now please. |
| 2013-06-13 2:40 PM in reply to: MOlsen |
Expert 1224 Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by MOlsen Originally posted by Goosedog The answer is IPA. Founders, Stone, Lagunitas, Bells, Dogfish, Avery and/or Birdsong (local, awesome!). The answer is indeed IPA! So far my "after race" tradition has been Racer 5 IPA. OOOH. There is a an IPA caled Race 5?? I gotta gets me sum a dat!! And yes, I believe a beer is the perfect end to a long training day, sitting on the deck, watching the kids play catch, run around on the playset, play tag, etc. Is it a prooven physical recovery aide?? I have no idea and frankly I don't care!! I will tell you in my own lab (see start of paragraph) that I have tested the mental recovery effects and it is a 100% awesome! |
| 2013-06-13 2:51 PM in reply to: switch |
Expert 1224 Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by switch Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by mehaner That's because alcoholics drink bloodies past noon. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! Crying laughing! I just felt that this Quote was stalling and needed another one. |
| 2013-06-13 3:20 PM in reply to: mehaner |
| 1439 | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Beer is an integral part of my training program and I always treat myself to an excess amount after a big race, marathon or longer distance. It sure helps ease the pain that afternoon and evening. |
| 2013-06-13 3:56 PM in reply to: TrBeau17 |
Extreme Veteran 1175 Langley, BC, 'Wet Coast' Canada | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by TrBeau17 OT ......... is there an equivalent website to BT for your other addiction? I just bought a basic homebrew kit Originally posted by cnseguraAdd me to the Yes demographic. I'm just now starting to get into home brewing so I imagine there will be a fair amount of experimenting with what beer is best for recovery and as a pre-race boost (I have a feeling that last one will take some time) Homebrewing for 4 years now and be careful the hobby is just as addicting as tri !! They are both rewarding in their own way. |
| 2013-06-13 3:59 PM in reply to: ejshowers |
| 20 | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by ejshowers I usually work out right after work, so beer is my recovery drink of choice while I sit in my hot tub and contemplate what wine I am going to have with dinner Train, Beer, Hot Tubbing...how does it get better? |
| 2013-06-13 4:12 PM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Veteran 576 Maple Grove | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by siouxcityhawk Originally posted by switch Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by mehaner That's because alcoholics drink bloodies past noon. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! Crying laughing! I just felt that this Quote was stalling and needed another one. tlancer, you may be surprised how successful many alcoholics are in life, especially if you define it by commonly held clinical definitions- occasionally drink to intoxication/binge drink, daily drinking, etc. Interesting that there are not a lot of recovering alcoholics chiming in on this thread (at least that are identifying themselves as such). Similarly interesting that no one is willing to admit to occasionally drinking more than 1-2 except LB and me  |
| 2013-06-13 4:16 PM in reply to: rdailey1 |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by rdailey1 Originally posted by siouxcityhawk Originally posted by switch Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by mehaner That's because alcoholics drink bloodies past noon. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! Crying laughing! I just felt that this Quote was stalling and needed another one. tlancer, you may be surprised how successful many alcoholics are in life, especially if you define it by commonly held clinical definitions- occasionally drink to intoxication/binge drink, daily drinking, etc. Interesting that there are not a lot of recovering alcoholics chiming in on this thread (at least that are identifying themselves as such). Similarly interesting that no one is willing to admit to occasionally drinking more than 1-2 except LB and me I think I admitted...Hello, my name is Thebigb and I freaking love beer although I've given it up for the next 8 weeks while I finish my dive into racing weight  |
| 2013-06-13 4:19 PM in reply to: thebigb |
Expert 1224 Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by rdailey1 Originally posted by siouxcityhawk Originally posted by switch Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by mehaner That's because alcoholics drink bloodies past noon. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by mehaner You are the one making the assumption that a beer equates to an alcoholic, not me. No need to feel defensive... unless you consider yourself an alcoholic. Originally posted by tlancer23 Originally posted by erik.norgaard Does Jager count? Just kidding. Alcohol still dehydrates the body right? Personally, with the exception of an occasional Bloody Mary with dinner I do not drink at all because of the negative health and lifestyle consequences. I don't see many alcoholics succeeding in life, much less athletics, so yes I agree with Erik, I think it sends a bad message. Alcohol ruins many lives, folks. I think the difference between beer sponsors and Taco Bell is that a Nachos Bell Grande does not carry endless legislation regulating its distribution and consumption, nor the criminal liabilities and negative social sanctions involved in irresponsible product usage. Originally posted by VGT OK, I'm European, we have different view of nudging over here. But: It's not just about you having a beer after a race, there's a difference between having it for you to buy in the bar and sponsoring a sports event. It's about associating sports, exercise, active and healthy lifestyle with alcohol. It sends a signal to the next generation that drinking is part of a healthy lifestyle. It is not. IMHO, breweries should let their alcohol free beers sponsor these events to promote these alternatives. Originally posted by erik.norgaard I must admit that I'm a bit offended when races have breweries sponsoring the event, I think that alcohol shouldn't be linked with sports. Why not? I find that to be a little absurd. We're adults, and we train extremely hard and balance life in the process. To suggest that we cannot also responsibly consume alcohol is a bit short-sighted. uhhhh....there are lots of people that have a beer after a run that aren't alcoholics. what a broad brush we have. Sorry but your quote (bolded) jumped from having one drink to alcoholism. The way I read it, you were the one who made that connection. thanks - i knew i wasn't crazy. Nope, not crazy. That's how I read it too, though I was distracted a bit by "Bloody Mary with dinner". i know - i've never had one later than brunch! Crying laughing! I just felt that this Quote was stalling and needed another one. tlancer, you may be surprised how successful many alcoholics are in life, especially if you define it by commonly held clinical definitions- occasionally drink to intoxication/binge drink, daily drinking, etc. Interesting that there are not a lot of recovering alcoholics chiming in on this thread (at least that are identifying themselves as such). Similarly interesting that no one is willing to admit to occasionally drinking more than 1-2 except LB and me I think I admitted...Hello, my name is Thebigb and I freaking love beer although I've given it up for the next 8 weeks while I finish my dive into racing weight I may not have admitted but I certainly inferred. I like beer. I like it alot. Oh, and Mojitos (sp??) They are great too! |
| 2013-06-13 4:22 PM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by siouxcityhawk I may not have admitted but I certainly inferred. I like beer. I like it alot. Oh, and Mojitos (sp??) They are great too! Good time of the year for those and what kind of discussion would it be without tossing in my favorite non beer drink, the old fashioned. |
| 2013-06-13 4:26 PM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? I have self-identified as a "functioning alcoholic" in another thread. I don't often drink to excess, but I drink often, I have a habit of enjoying alcohol and I'm not willing to give it up. I think by "technical" definitions that makes me an alcoholic. I guess I'm stuck on step one. |
| 2013-06-13 4:28 PM in reply to: thebigb |
Expert 1224 Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by siouxcityhawk I may not have admitted but I certainly inferred. I like beer. I like it alot. Oh, and Mojitos (sp??) They are great too! Good time of the year for those and what kind of discussion would it be without tossing in my favorite non beer drink, the old fashioned. I used to make old fashioneds when I bartended. The most challenging part is how many dashes of Bitters do you do? Most recipies say 2. I liked to make it with at least three and a little extra sugar with the Cherry / Orange slice mash. And of course, an Old Fashioned is certainly not an Old Fashioned if not made with Maker's Mark!! |
| 2013-06-13 4:37 PM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Regular 789 | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? I like beer and will have a couple after a hard day working out. I know that it probably isn't the best thing for recovery but oh well, it isn't like I am an elite age grouper or a pro so I don't care as much about the recovery as the taste of a nice cold beer. But with IMCDA coming up I have cut back and haven't had a beer in 4 days . I know I'll have a couple over the weekend more than likely and will have one next Thursday night for dinner after my wife's college graduation. It will be a Batch19 which is unfortunate considering Mac & Jacks African Amber is so far my all time favorite. |
| 2013-06-13 4:41 PM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by siouxcityhawk Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by siouxcityhawk I may not have admitted but I certainly inferred. I like beer. I like it alot. Oh, and Mojitos (sp??) They are great too! Good time of the year for those and what kind of discussion would it be without tossing in my favorite non beer drink, the old fashioned. I used to make old fashioneds when I bartended. The most challenging part is how many dashes of Bitters do you do? Most recipies say 2. I liked to make it with at least three and a little extra sugar with the Cherry / Orange slice mash. And of course, an Old Fashioned is certainly not an Old Fashioned if not made with Maker's Mark!! 3 dashes angostura, 1 dash orange, just an orange peel garnish please. Dangit, that leads right into the Sazerac, my second most liked. What time is it? |
| 2013-06-13 4:58 PM in reply to: thebigb |
Pro 5761 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? I love reading these type of threads and love seeing how passionately people defend their beer and alcohol! |
| 2013-06-13 5:04 PM in reply to: spie34 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Originally posted by spie34 I like beer and will have a couple after a hard day working out. I know that it probably isn't the best thing for recovery but oh well, it isn't like I am an elite age grouper or a pro so I don't care as much about the recovery as the taste of a nice cold beer. But with IMCDA coming up I have cut back and haven't had a beer in 4 days . I know I'll have a couple over the weekend more than likely and will have one next Thursday night for dinner after my wife's college graduation. It will be a Batch19 which is unfortunate considering Mac & Jacks African Amber is so far my all time favorite. Mmmmm Mac and Jacks... durn tasty stuff! |
| 2013-06-13 5:13 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: What do you think about beer as an "after"? Well, I'd like to start by saying that I don't believe running/tri/sport and drinking are mutually exclusive. Sure, if you drink too much too often, it's bad for you running or triathlon (for some very specific reasons) and more than likely, bad for your quality of life in general. But I am guessing that most people believe the fun aspect of drinking outweighs any of the negative impacts and/or drink in such a way that those negative impacts are very minimal. I'm a big believer in moderation in all things (except maybe running?) and that includes alcohol. I don't, however, see beer as something that speeds recovery or anything, as much as I would love for that to be the case.
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