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2014-05-22 7:09 AM
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it was like 82 degrees last night and my run was so miserable.  i love summer (full sun, lots of heat, beach, boats, pools) but i really need it to always be 55 - 60 degrees and overcast for running.  how do i get both of these?



2014-05-22 8:04 AM
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Originally posted by mehaner

it was like 82 degrees last night and my run was so miserable.  i love summer (full sun, lots of heat, beach, boats, pools) but i really need it to always be 55 - 60 degrees and overcast for running.  how do i get both of these?

The first really hot run of the year is not much fun. I have to consciously slow down particularly at the start. The good news is that your body adapts pretty quickly. In August, 82 will feel great.

Another solution is to buy your own personal jet and fly to Canada every day for your run.

TW

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2014-05-22 8:13 AM
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Originally posted by bootygirlI sat in court all morning waiting for a sentencing of a former friend and coworker who embezzled a quarter of a million dollars from the company I still work for. Our insurance company would only go back 3 years with the investigation, so who knows how much in total. The first two years (7 total) she worked for us, she had been on parole from another embezzlement charge - I guess I know how she made restitution for that. She received a sentence of a maximum of 10 years, eligible to apply for parole in 16 months. I had really trusted this person - we all did. The last 14 months since this broke has been a lot like the grieving process for many of us - denial, anger, etc. She is a pathological liar. I finally accepted that fact today, and watched them cuff her. No one came to court with her except her lawyer - not her husband, not her sister or parents. She has a teenaged daughter and a son about 6.

all of the other cases we got to watch today have left me quite worn out. Lots of emotion, sad stories, substance abuse, bad decisions. Sadly, several of them were veterans.

One bit of humor - a guy was pulled over for a traffic violation and was told the car he was driving was stollen. He was driving his new younger girlfriend's car, he thought. Nope - she was wanted for auto theft and a host of other things. The judge asked him if he was going to stay with this woman, and he claimed "no way! I learned my lesson to think with this head (taping the side of his own head) and not the little head (pointing to his crotch)".

Sad story. Those illegal shortcuts seem like an easy way to get ahead. In reality, working hard, being honest, and being smart are a much easier and more likely path.

The second guy should get arrested for theft because he totally stole that line.

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2014-05-22 8:22 AM
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Originally posted by mehaner

it was like 82 degrees last night and my run was so miserable.  i love summer (full sun, lots of heat, beach, boats, pools) but i really need it to always be 55 - 60 degrees and overcast for running.  how do i get both of these?

The first really hot run of the year is not much fun. I have to consciously slow down particularly at the start. The good news is that your body adapts pretty quickly. In August, 82 will feel great.

Another solution is to buy your own personal jet and fly to Canada every day for your run.

TW

private jet...why didn't i think of that!

2014-05-22 9:04 AM
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Here's an observation and kind of a question from far away. I live outside the US but have alot of goings on inside the US. Family, daughter going to school there, house-tenants, banks, lawyers, insurance, etc etc. To go into specifics would take hours. Anyhow it seems more and more people in the US are angrier and angrier. Not sure if its pent up frustration over slippage in day to day struggles over time, or people are just tired, or the rough weather, or who knows. I might have to move back to the US sometime it the future and to be honest it kind of concerns me. I'm no Polyanna but don't really want to live in an overall angry society. To counter that the strategy of isloating oneself to limit exposure isn't that appealing either. So the question is- am I imagnining this or do you all get a similar vibe ?
2014-05-22 9:49 AM
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Originally posted by mehaner

it was like 82 degrees last night and my run was so miserable.  i love summer (full sun, lots of heat, beach, boats, pools) but i really need it to always be 55 - 60 degrees and overcast for running.  how do i get both of these?

Yeah, the heat is no fun...  It slows me down big time if I'm going by HR.  Running when it's 110 out adds 2-3 minutes per mile over running in 60 degree weather - if not more.



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Originally posted by gr33n Here's an observation and kind of a question from far away. I live outside the US but have alot of goings on inside the US. Family, daughter going to school there, house-tenants, banks, lawyers, insurance, etc etc. To go into specifics would take hours. Anyhow it seems more and more people in the US are angrier and angrier. Not sure if its pent up frustration over slippage in day to day struggles over time, or people are just tired, or the rough weather, or who knows. I might have to move back to the US sometime it the future and to be honest it kind of concerns me. I'm no Polyanna but don't really want to live in an overall angry society. To counter that the strategy of isloating oneself to limit exposure isn't that appealing either. So the question is- am I imagnining this or do you all get a similar vibe ?

It has gotten so bad that they are going just go ahead with the plan to put Prozac in the water.

Actually, it is mainly the news.  In real life, even people who throw shoes at the TV screen are pretty nice in person.  You encounter an occasional jerk but mostly people are civilized.  I think that you hear the most sensational news from the United States abroad, and well actually you hear it domestically too.  If I listen to the more biased news sources, it is a continuous rant about one thing or another.   That is pretty much all for ratings.  I just put on a filter on my brain and set the gain for about 0.1 and sort out the facts and let the interpretation and spin go off to bother the intended audience.  Even nominally fair reporting is biased by selection. They can't tell all the stories so the selection process inherently prioritizes and biases the news you hear.

That and a glass of Rioja to remind you of Spain will get you through if you should ever come this way again.  On second thought, let's just all move to Barcelona.  I could live there.

 

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Originally posted by tech_geezer

Originally posted by gr33n Here's an observation and kind of a question from far away. I live outside the US but have alot of goings on inside the US. Family, daughter going to school there, house-tenants, banks, lawyers, insurance, etc etc. To go into specifics would take hours. Anyhow it seems more and more people in the US are angrier and angrier. Not sure if its pent up frustration over slippage in day to day struggles over time, or people are just tired, or the rough weather, or who knows. I might have to move back to the US sometime it the future and to be honest it kind of concerns me. I'm no Polyanna but don't really want to live in an overall angry society. To counter that the strategy of isloating oneself to limit exposure isn't that appealing either. So the question is- am I imagnining this or do you all get a similar vibe ?

It has gotten so bad that they are going just go ahead with the plan to put Prozac in the water.

Actually, I think that you hear the most sensational news from the United States abroad, and well actually you hear it domestically too.  If I listen to the more biased news sources, it is a continuous rant about one thing or another.   That is pretty much all for ratings.  I just put on a filter on my brain and set the gain for about 0.1 and sort out the facts and let the interpretation and spin go off to bother the intended audience.  Even nominally fair reporting is biased by selection. They can't tell all the stories so the selection process inherently prioritizes and biases the news you hear.

That and a glass of Rioja to remind you of Spain will get you through if you should ever come this way again.  On second thought, let's just all move to Barcelona.  I could live there.

 

TW




My angle is even more from personal dealings as opposed to media spin but I hear what you're saying. And yes Spain while not perfect is a very livable place. Good weather. Good wine. And the right combination of relaxed attitudes and 'we got to get at least something done here to make it look good'.
2014-05-22 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by gr33n
Originally posted by tech_geezer

Originally posted by gr33n Here's an observation and kind of a question from far away. I live outside the US but have alot of goings on inside the US. Family, daughter going to school there, house-tenants, banks, lawyers, insurance, etc etc. To go into specifics would take hours. Anyhow it seems more and more people in the US are angrier and angrier. Not sure if its pent up frustration over slippage in day to day struggles over time, or people are just tired, or the rough weather, or who knows. I might have to move back to the US sometime it the future and to be honest it kind of concerns me. I'm no Polyanna but don't really want to live in an overall angry society. To counter that the strategy of isloating oneself to limit exposure isn't that appealing either. So the question is- am I imagnining this or do you all get a similar vibe ?

It has gotten so bad that they are going just go ahead with the plan to put Prozac in the water.

Actually, I think that you hear the most sensational news from the United States abroad, and well actually you hear it domestically too.  If I listen to the more biased news sources, it is a continuous rant about one thing or another.   That is pretty much all for ratings.  I just put on a filter on my brain and set the gain for about 0.1 and sort out the facts and let the interpretation and spin go off to bother the intended audience.  Even nominally fair reporting is biased by selection. They can't tell all the stories so the selection process inherently prioritizes and biases the news you hear.

That and a glass of Rioja to remind you of Spain will get you through if you should ever come this way again.  On second thought, let's just all move to Barcelona.  I could live there.

 

TW

My angle is even more from personal dealings as opposed to media spin but I hear what you're saying. And yes Spain while not perfect is a very livable place. Good weather. Good wine. And the right combination of relaxed attitudes and 'we got to get at least something done here to make it look good'.

We still have better baseball here.

2014-05-22 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by gr33n Here's an observation and kind of a question from far away. I live outside the US but have alot of goings on inside the US. Family, daughter going to school there, house-tenants, banks, lawyers, insurance, etc etc. To go into specifics would take hours. Anyhow it seems more and more people in the US are angrier and angrier. Not sure if its pent up frustration over slippage in day to day struggles over time, or people are just tired, or the rough weather, or who knows. I might have to move back to the US sometime it the future and to be honest it kind of concerns me. I'm no Polyanna but don't really want to live in an overall angry society. To counter that the strategy of isloating oneself to limit exposure isn't that appealing either. So the question is- am I imagnining this or do you all get a similar vibe ?

eh, i think some people are just angry people and some are not.  i bet you get that everywhere.  but if i lived in spain i'd never leave.

2014-05-22 10:32 AM
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I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.



2014-05-22 10:33 AM
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I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.

i think you are definitely one of the angry folks that gr33n is talking about!

2014-05-22 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Kido

I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.

i think you are definitely one of the angry folks that gr33n is talking about!




Or maybe everyone's just angry at me....
2014-05-22 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by gr33n
Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by Kido

I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.

i think you are definitely one of the angry folks that gr33n is talking about!

Or maybe everyone's just angry at me....

I'm angry at you for dog-shaming in your profile pic.

2014-05-22 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by gr33n
Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by Kido

I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.

i think you are definitely one of the angry folks that gr33n is talking about!

Or maybe everyone's just angry at me....

I'm angry at you for dog-shaming in your profile pic.




Hahaha NO to the contrary. That is Jane and she is my best bud, and the only soul that is never mad at me. Well maybe sometimes if she doesn't get her idea of enough treats or walks...
2014-05-22 11:33 AM
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weekend trip to monterrey/big sur in the works for 4th of july!  oh em gee i hope i can make this happen!!!



2014-05-22 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by gr33n Here's an observation and kind of a question from far away. I live outside the US but have alot of goings on inside the US. Family, daughter going to school there, house-tenants, banks, lawyers, insurance, etc etc. To go into specifics would take hours. Anyhow it seems more and more people in the US are angrier and angrier. Not sure if its pent up frustration over slippage in day to day struggles over time, or people are just tired, or the rough weather, or who knows. I might have to move back to the US sometime it the future and to be honest it kind of concerns me. I'm no Polyanna but don't really want to live in an overall angry society. To counter that the strategy of isloating oneself to limit exposure isn't that appealing either. So the question is- am I imagnining this or do you all get a similar vibe ?

I think they are more oblivious to what is going on around them... or rather... caring about it. So many people today are ALL ABOUT THEMSELVES. Who cares if they are blocking the isle in the store? Who cares if they holding up a line of traffic because they decided to keep their head in their phone? Etc. 

They are also way larger @ssholes on the road who think they OWN IT and do NOTHING WRONG. For example, last weekend we were driving in downtown. This truck, didn't want to stay in their lane while going through the light (I'm pretty sure they were unable to follow the lines the went to the right and kept going straight, thus moving into our lane, instead of staying in their lane) and just took over our lane. We had to slam on our brakes so they didn't HIT our car, and we honked so they would realize we were IN the lane. Then they got over, hung their finger out the window to flip us off, and started to try to race us. Let's see... all because we HONKED the car horn so our car wouldn't get creamed. Oh, but they did NOTHING WRONG, so it was time to flip us off? This is a common occurrence here on the roads. No one does anything wrong, can't be responsible for what they do to endanger other people,and they get mad at the people they almost killed. Yep. 

Gosh, I got angry just talking about it. Yep. We are an angry society. Ha!  

2014-05-22 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by mehaner

it was like 82 degrees last night and my run was so miserable.  i love summer (full sun, lots of heat, beach, boats, pools) but i really need it to always be 55 - 60 degrees and overcast for running.  how do i get both of these?

Live in Seattle? 

It was 90 degrees here yesterday. I was OK in the heat. It's when it gets to be 100 that I'm suffering, a lot. 

 

2014-05-22 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by gr33n
Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by Kido

I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.

i think you are definitely one of the angry folks that gr33n is talking about!

Or maybe everyone's just angry at me....

I'm angry at you for dog-shaming in your profile pic.

We had to cone our little dog.  She HATED it - petrified her - literally (well, you know what I mean).  She would sort of half stand, half crouch, tail tucked, wide eyed AND NOT MOVE a muscle.  I think I let her stand there for 15 minutes before I had to take it off.

Ended up getting something like an airplane pillow you put around their neck.  They don't fee so "enclosed" but it also blocks them from licking the ears they are not supposed to.

2014-05-22 1:02 PM
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Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by Kido

I'm angry that I don't get angry enough.

i think you are definitely one of the angry folks that gr33n is talking about!

I generally don't get angry - which angers me.

I passed the "carefree" test on FB with flying colors.

BUT, I think people like to complain and rant and get attention.  I think people are generally pretty happy in the US.  They just whinge a lot about nonsense.

Plus the news loves their blood and controversy.  I'm not sure why if it's bad, it's news but if it's anything else?  It's not...  An exaggeration, but it seems to go that way.  The local news doesn't really just talk about newsworthy items in general - just the murder and accidents and corruption mostly.

2014-05-22 1:07 PM
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I just thought of Kiley and realized I miss her phunny sayings and posts...

"Kerfuffle" got me going down memory lane...

 



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I think people are angry on the internet but rarely do they say anything in person. The internet gives them that air of anonymity and bravery that they don't necessarily have in real life. But I do find that people are `fed up' with more things. I'm going to go live in Canada.
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Originally posted by mr2tony I think people are angry on the internet but rarely do they say anything in person. The internet gives them that air of anonymity and bravery that they don't necessarily have in real life. But I do find that people are `fed up' with more things. I'm going to go live in Canada.

I find that posters named "mr2tony" on the internet make ME angry.

2014-05-22 2:30 PM
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Originally posted by mehaner

Originally posted by mr2tony I think people are angry on the internet but rarely do they say anything in person. The internet gives them that air of anonymity and bravery that they don't necessarily have in real life. But I do find that people are `fed up' with more things. I'm going to go live in Canada.

I find that posters named "mr2tony" on the internet make ME angry.




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2014-05-22 6:13 PM
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It's weird seeing BTers pictures sometimes.  Completely not what I was imagining - same for the 30 or so I met in real life.

 

 

Except for mr2tony.  Exactly what I was expecting...  TOOL....

 

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