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Subject: Group riding/solo riding
Do you tend to go significantly faster when riding with a group vs solo?


2015-05-27 1:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Group riding/solo riding

It depends.

2015-05-27 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Group riding/solo riding

When riding with a group that rides fast yes!  But I often find the groups take longer break(s) than I normally would alone.

2015-05-27 2:39 PM
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My solo rides are usually much faster than my group rides, but when I'm with groups these days they aren't racers.

2015-05-27 2:53 PM
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Originally posted by Donto

When riding with a group that rides fast yes!  But I often find the groups take longer break(s) than I normally would alone.




I find in large groups someone can easily hold 2-5 mph's faster than they can solo just by staying in the back. A lot of large groups take breaks and some times they can be quite social! My personal favorite training rides are small groups of 3-6. That way you can keep a good rotation going and push hard when you are at the front, but still have decent time to recover waiting for your next pull. I would either stay in the back on my aero bars and just ride up on my turns or would get off the aero bars while moving up the line. A bit of a disclaimer though I knew my small group really well and trusted them and we only did a few routes and we all knew them really well! Being on your aero bars can be dangerous in groups so make sure you stay back far enough to react, but hopefully close enough to still draft some.
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Subject: RE: Group riding/solo riding
Originally posted by Donto

When riding with a group that rides fast yes!  But I often find the groups take longer break(s) than I normally would alone.



Same here. Last week, I broke off from the group ride because they were taking too many breaks, and I needed a better workout. I ended up covering 25 miles in less time than they covered 17. However, if I ride with people who push me, I go faster.


2015-05-27 4:58 PM
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If you aren't doing a given route significantly faster in a group than you would solo...then you need to find a new group.  This goes both ways as if you pick a group that is too fast, you'll get spit out the back early and be on your own anyway.  Of course not every group ride has the objective of going hard, nor should that always be ones goal when joining a group, but I assume the premise of the OPs question was comparing rides of similar intensity goals done solo or in a group.



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2015-05-27 5:52 PM
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2015-05-27 6:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Group riding/solo riding
As said, it depends.

Crit racing, the group averages about 41 km/h on a loop course with a slight climb and slight descent in it. No way I can hold that on my road bike solo for 50 minutes.

Some of the recovery spins with a group, I can be doing 22-23 km/h.

Generally speaking though, you should be able to go faster for the same effort if you're tucking in behind a better rider, or pacelining etc.

My group rides if they're not hard sessions tend to be pretty similar to my solo efforts.
2015-05-27 8:21 PM
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Originally posted by mchadcota2 Do you tend to go significantly faster when riding with a group vs solo?

Almost always I'm faster in the group.  Mainly because we take turns pulling and recovering so the pace stays higher overall.  By myself I have to manage my energy and there's nobody to tuck in behind...

 

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