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2009-07-14 9:15 AM

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Subject: Double vs Triple

I bought a Trek Pilot 1.2 Triple earlier this year 2nd hand from ebay for my commute to work and it’s great however I then decided to get into Tri’s...

Is a triple more of a tourer? And as I only plan to do sprint and oly distance should I be using a double?

Am I right that a triple is more suited to hilly areas and longer rides to give you the variety of gears and comfort or is it just personal preference?

I’m not trying to gain a few seconds by buying a new bike I’m just interested in the main differences the average cyclist like me would notice between a double and triple chainset?



2009-07-14 9:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple

Historically, road bikes were doubles.  Road triples came later.  Usually you can only find them on the entry level bikes as Shimano didn't make a triple in Dura-Ace until 2002 and it's a non-standard size.  Higher end bikes will use a compact crank (a double with a smaller bolt pattern and smaller chainrings) to get the lower gearing that a triple allows.

I like my triple.  It's well adjusted and helps me on my morning commute up Burnaby mountain.  Triples give you an extra couple of gears on the low end compared to a standard double.  In exchange, they are fussier to set up (some people claim they are impossible), heavier, and have a wider spacing between the pedals which can bother some peoples knees.  Compact doubles give nearly the same low gearing as a triple and the same high gear as a standard double, but are lighter and less finicky.  The large jump from the big to the small ring makes them a little more prone to dumping the chain than a standard double but that can be dealt with.

2009-07-14 12:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple
I think it comes down to personal preference.  I had a road bike with a triple.  When I bought my new tri bike I was TERRIFIED I wouldn't have enough gears with only a double.  So I had them put a 12-27 on the back.  Haven't found a hill it won't get me up.  And I've ridden up some evil ones.

So, personally...I don't think anybody really *needs* a triple as long as they have appropriate gearing on the back...

But you can do any tri with a triple...it doesn't matter.  All you will notice if you switched to a double is that you have fewer gears available to you...whether those are on the high end or low end depends on what you choose for the cogs.
2009-07-14 12:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple
I find myself WISHING I had a triple sometimes! There's nothing wrong with a triple if that's what you have on there. It does give you the ability to spin up steep hills. On a tri bike, you will most likely see a compact.
2009-07-14 1:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple
I admit I was a little scared when I bought a new bike 3 months before Wildflower and made the move from triple to double, even though I was almost never using the "granny gear" anymore.  But it definitely got me motivated to get out and ride a whole bunch of hills in training and the ride at WF ended up going fine.

The problem with most triple cranksets is that the shifting can be so unreliable...I had issues with both my road bikes that had triples (one was a Sora setup, the other a Tiagra)...even though you have some additional gearings to play with, I found that in practice, some of them weren't really usable due to inability to get both derailleurs adjusted exactly right and keep them that way.  The shifting on my new bike (a 105/DA mix) is rock solid and I don't have any concerns about any of the gearings.
2009-07-14 1:13 PM
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I have two places I ride where there is a sustained climb of over 12% grade for over a mile.  I use my triple for this. If I didn't have these two hills I would have a double.

Palo Duro Canyon south of Claude, Tx has some tough climbs.  This is near where they filmed Hud and the last scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

This is a picture I found on Google earth of the last 1/2 mile of a climb that's almost 2 miles long and has a 12 to 13% grade.  I use the triple on this.  I could probably do it with a double if it wasn't so long.

climb


2009-07-14 1:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple
That's gorgeous!!  I wanna ride it!
2009-07-14 1:23 PM
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Daremo - 2009-07-14 2:23 PM That's gorgeous!!  I wanna ride it!


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Starting at the top, of course.  :P
2009-07-14 6:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple
I have a triple and have never had any trouble with shifting.  I use my granny gear a lot living in the foothills.  And on the flats I don't run out of gears as quickly as my compact crank friends do.  It's all about gear ratios which is over my head, but I'm very happy with what I have.
2009-07-14 7:54 PM
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NeilsWheel - 2009-07-14 11:13 AM I have two places I ride where there is a sustained climb of over 12% grade for over a mile.  I use my triple for this. If I didn't have these two hills I would have a double.

Palo Duro Canyon south of Claude, Tx has some tough climbs.  This is near where they filmed Hud and the last scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

This is a picture I found on Google earth of the last 1/2 mile of a climb that's almost 2 miles long and has a 12 to 13% grade.  I use the triple on this.  I could probably do it with a double if it wasn't so long.

climb

There must be wind and solar farms in that area!  Go break some so I can get my work to ship me out there with my bike!

2009-07-14 8:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Double vs Triple
My first, current, and only road bike has a triple but I have been considering upgrading the entire drive train and going with a double. I hardly use the smallest front ring, and I have some decent hills around here.


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