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2013-01-25 6:10 AM

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Subject: Share your favorite interval workout

Hi,

So far I've done mostly tempo runs and long runs, as well as tempo rides on the trainer or long rides, and riding on the road I go just by feel. But everyone says you've got to do intervals. 

So, last time on the trainer I tried 5 x (8min zone 5a + 2min zone 3), but it would take a minute for my heart rate to drop into zone 3 and and another minute to get up again, and in the high intensity it would both drop to zone 4 and up to zone 5b. I had a HR zone estimated based on a previous tempo ride.

I'm trying to figure out what interval workouts work well, both on the trainer and on the run, but can't figure what target to set and how much recovery time per interval.

What interval workouts do you do? What are your target intensities? How much recovery per interval? Do you go by perceived effort or HR zones?

Thanks, Erik



2013-01-25 6:18 AM
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My go to intervals are as follows..

Bike: 2x20 with 5 minutes recovery between sets. should be done at 90-95% FTP, I dont own a power meter so I tend to go off heart rate and perceived effort. You should be breathing heavy and by the end of 20 minutes should be like you could do a little more, but by end of 2nd time you wont want to do it again. 

Run: 6x1 miles repeats at slightly faster than 10k pace with 3-4 minutes recovery. 

Also throw in a threshold run every now and then. 10 min warm up followed by 20-30 minutes at threshold then 10 min ez

2013-01-25 6:26 AM
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Sufferfest - Downward Spiral. They're shorter (2 mins max) but I like the concept of the 2 sets of descending intervals. You can really push yourself. You don't need the video to follow the format.

So: 

2:00 on/ 2:00 rest

1:45 on/ 1:45 rest

.....

0:15 on/ 0:15 rest

Take a break. Repeat.

2013-01-25 7:09 AM
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I don't have a favorite interval workout for biking--I do the Workouts from the Jorge offseason program, and am pretty sure they are all equally painful! As for running, due to injury concerns and lack of a track, I almost never do conventional intervals, When I'm able to, I do a fartlek workout that my high school coach invented: 15-20 minute warmup, repeats of 100-200-400-600-800-600-400-200-100 strides with equal recovery (back to Zone 2 pace). There are some variations for a more brutal workout, like adding more 800's, or a 1000, or just 6-8 X 800. The first one is about an hour workout, maybe a bit more, so you are probably doing 10k race effort/ low zone 4 for the hard stuff. You could easily do the same ladder with a Garmin to find distances or go by time (100 strides is roughly 30 seconds.) This was in the age before Garmins and he taught us a trick for keeping track of strides, which I use to this day.If I ever was healthy enough to do real track intervals (actually, I'd do them on the wood-chip trail in Eugene), it'd be my high school staple: 3-4 sets of 800m-400m-400m at 5 km race pace (or 3000, but I don't race that anymore). 1/2 the distance easy jog for recovery. For cross-country we would do 800m repeats down and up a pretty sizable hill, usually 6-10. These really worked and got me in great shape for 5-10 km.
2013-01-25 7:13 AM
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erik.norgaard - 2013-01-25 6:10 AM

Hi,

So far I've done mostly tempo runs and long runs, as well as tempo rides on the trainer or long rides, and riding on the road I go just by feel. But everyone says you've got to do intervals. 

So, last time on the trainer I tried 5 x (8min zone 5a + 2min zone 3), but it would take a minute for my heart rate to drop into zone 3 and and another minute to get up again, and in the high intensity it would both drop to zone 4 and up to zone 5b. I had a HR zone estimated based on a previous tempo ride.

I'm trying to figure out what interval workouts work well, both on the trainer and on the run, but can't figure what target to set and how much recovery time per interval.

What interval workouts do you do? What are your target intensities? How much recovery per interval? Do you go by perceived effort or HR zones?

Thanks, Erik

So are you looking at bike intervals then? You started off talking about running, but much of this is about being on the trainer.

2013-01-25 7:39 AM
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I guess the question is what are you trying to accomplish with your intervals:

  • Raise your FTP on the bike?
  • Raise your VO2 max?
  • Build your aerobic engine?
  • Develop race-specific speed?

For the first one, look at BT's Winter Cycling Plan and do some of the workouts that are just above 100% FTP or LTHR, for instance:

WU:  20' as 10-15' 70%, 5 x 1' 90-95%, 1' 60%
MS:   6 x 4' @ 105%, 45" RBI @ 50% (the last two will be REALLY hard)
CD:   7' @ 60-65%

To raise VO2 max, something like Downward Spiral, which is basically all out, recover, repeat, descending times.

If you're still in your base training...I like the 2 x 20 @ 90-95%, 5' RBI mentioned above.

For race-specific speed (assumes you're beyond base and a race is on the horizon), you'll want to design the intervals to go just above your target HR/power/speed for 3-5' at a time, with recovery in between, and build on that.

Again, Jorge's plan rocks for interval suggestions.

For running, I think it's much more depending on your target race distance.  For instance, for Oly's the 6 x 1 mile just above 10K pace is great, for sprints I used to 5 x descending 0.75mile intervals starting at 5K pace and dropping 5-10 seconds per interval. 

Run intervals are fun...be careful to not get injured (not that I would know anything about that Foot in mouth).



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2013-01-25 7:49 AM
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For cycling, I found a really good set that hurts by watching the Chris Lieto training videos. I did it a few times before I started jorge's cycling plan (can't remember it). I believe its the training video part 2 of 4

Another interval I like if I don't have anything scheduled is 3 sets of 5' aerobic, 5' race pace, 5' race+ pace. That third one, the last interval should be darn near impossible if you do it right (based on perceived effort). Then 5' of spinning to cool down, then settle into a nice aerobic pace until you get home. Go for a light jog to shake out your legs and stretch really good.

For running I typically do a 20' tempo run or a fartlek for my speed sesions, I don't like doing track intervals because I always push too hard for my own good and get shin splints.

Fartlek:

  • 1min hard/1min EZ
  • 2min hard/1min EZ
  • 4x(3min hard/2min EZ)
  • 2min hard/1min EZ
  • 1min jello/1min jello


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jmhpsu93 - 2013-01-25 2:39 PM

I guess the question is what are you trying to accomplish with your intervals...

Good question. I need to build up endurance for longer distances (HM/HIM) and do not want to sacrifice speed (too much).

I can do 10K sub 50min and I'm training for a HM with a goal of 1:45. Later I'll move focus toward HIM, same thing, I can do 40K in about 1:10 (flat road), and target for 90K is 2:40 or so. 

2013-01-25 8:16 AM
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erik.norgaard - 2013-01-25 7:56 AM
jmhpsu93 - 2013-01-25 2:39 PM

I guess the question is what are you trying to accomplish with your intervals...

Good question. I need to build up endurance for longer distances (HM/HIM) and do not want to sacrifice speed (too much).

I can do 10K sub 50min and I'm training for a HM with a goal of 1:45. Later I'll move focus toward HIM, same thing, I can do 40K in about 1:10 (flat road), and target for 90K is 2:40 or so. 

Are you on the bike, running, or trying to figure out each one? jmhpsu93 gave cycling suggestions, but the response uses running.

For what you said here, in both disciplines you want to look most at raising threshold performance. Which would be FTP on the bike and threshold pace for running. On the bike it will scale out well to the distances mentioned. On the run, you'll also be more conscious of fatigue resistance as you go longer.

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Subject: RE: Share your favorite interval workout
erik.norgaard - 2013-01-25 8:56 AM
jmhpsu93 - 2013-01-25 2:39 PM

I guess the question is what are you trying to accomplish with your intervals...

Good question. I need to build up endurance for longer distances (HM/HIM) and do not want to sacrifice speed (too much).

I can do 10K sub 50min and I'm training for a HM with a goal of 1:45. Later I'll move focus toward HIM, same thing, I can do 40K in about 1:10 (flat road), and target for 90K is 2:40 or so. 

What 'speed' don't you want to sacrifice?  If it's for a 10k run and 40k bike, you don't need to worry.  Those are endurance events.  That's not to say you might not want to do some higher intensity work to help build your endurance, as well.  But you don't 'need' it.

2013-01-25 3:14 PM
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I do lots of different interval workouts for biking. The best most structured ones I do on the velodrome, but I'll assume that you don't have easy access to one, so I won't detail those.

Biking, I do intervals on either hills or flats.

  • Road ride with 5x1min hill efforts on a 5% grade hill about 1.5km long with full recovery in between
  • 5x30 sec sprints with 5 mins easy in between
  • SFU hill repeats x 4 (First part of hill about 7.5% grade at 2.5km, second part of hill 13% grade for about 900m)
  • 6x3 min hill climb efforts with 10 mins in between I use a 8% grade hill that is about 1.5km long
  • 1km weekly crit course. Start finish is near the top of a 4% .5km hill. Sprint every 2nd lap
  • 5 efforts total. 4 mins per effort. 1st min is 90%, then 2nd and 3rd min is 80-85%, 4th minute is all out. 8-10 mins easy in between sets
  • 3x7mins of 15 sec sprint/ 15 sec recovery. 1st set is seated sprint, 2nd set standing the whole time, 3rd set is standing for the first 5-7 secs then seated continued acceleration for 8-10 secs. 10 mins easy in between sets


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I've become a big fan of Z4/5 and Z5/6 over-unders on the bike.

e.g:

5 x 8 minutes @ 1 minute z4/30s z5 w/ 2 minutes rest

6 x 2 minutes @ Z5 with ~8-10s Z6 every 30 seconds with 5 minutes rest

Both are great on the trainer or as hill repeats.

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Sufferfest Revolover and Downward Spiral are good for intervals.
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