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2009-07-24 4:48 AM

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Subject: HIM without much training...

I need to ramble about something.

This year will be the 3rd year that a HIM will be held here in Iceland. In the first year 7 men started and only 4 finished (bike route was crazy tough!). Last year  they changed the route and 10 started (9 men and 1 woman) and all finished.

The race is held by 2 Ironman finishers this year and it seems they are trying to get as many people as possible to participate. Both are really good athletes and are probably fit enough all year long to do a HIM any time. So far 10 people have signed up and it will get even more, I am sure of that.

The problem is that somehow the trend this year is to just do it, without having trained much. Just to see if they can do it. One of the organisers mentioned yesterday that he will borrow is old roadbike to a friend 5 days before the race so that he can participate. One of the women who has signed up has biked a total of about 100K this year, the other one has not swam in over a year!!

Is it just me to think that this is crazy! Or is the distance maybe less a deal then I make of it? For me it is a long way. I have trained hard for it and have been biking over 3300km this year and I still doubt if I can do the bike portion if the weather is bad.

And I feel that somehow all these people that are hardly training for it and just see if they can do it, are undermining (is that even a word?) my efforts. They make the distance seem like a joke and it seems they don't have any respect for it....

I know I should not care what other people are doing and focusing on myself, but it really bugs me....and I am probably a really bad person but I secretly wish that those people get a DNF??

How do you react to people like this? How would you feel?

OK rambling is over lol



2009-07-24 6:54 AM
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Personally, I do not like the idea of doing a HIM or IM just to check it off the list. I have known people that have done HIM's or IM's just to check it off. They go in undertrained, unaffected about how long it takes, just to say they have completed a HIM or IM. Not that it matters, because you don't get a gold star or a sign to carry around saying I finished.

But to me, doing a HIM or IM is much more than just the race. Finishing a HIM or IM is about the journey. What makes you a HIM or an IM is gained through the training. Grinding out one day (e.g. the race) is not the same as grinding it out day after day after day. Granted, at the line everyone is earns the same "title", so it is a moot point if the individual can finish.

Do I think it is not responsible for people to be encouraged to sign up extremely underprepared, YES.

Should you worry about it or let it effect you, NO.

As the long saying goes, race your race, and don't worry about the other people.
2009-07-24 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: HIM without much training...
Joblin - 2009-07-24 5:48 AM

How do you react to people like this? How would you feel?

I'd feel like I had a good shot at winning the whole thing
2009-07-24 7:21 AM
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Joblin - 2009-07-24 1:48 AM

And I feel that somehow all these people that are hardly training for it and just see if they can do it, are undermining (is that even a word?) my efforts...

How do you react to people like this 

I don't see how their undertraining would undermine your efforts.  How to react, race them and beat them.



Edited by T in Liberty Lake 2009-07-24 7:24 AM
2009-07-24 8:13 AM
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Personally I don't think your training hard enough if you have time to worry about others' lack of training. That was the clock is for, to determine who is the best prepared.

Race your race, kick their butts and enjoy your day, while you know they are all suffering and are under prepared.

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2009-07-24 8:19 AM
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I am not sure I explained it right..... its not about who wins or doesn't. I don't do this to win, I do this to finish.

I am still 50lbs overweight so I will probably be slower than all of them even though I trained...just because they are skinny and I am not...

Like Coldfire said, for me it was a lot about the journey, about following the plan, doing what is needed, overcoming sport injuries from the last 2 years, and loosing weight.....

I just don't want anyone to say afterwards that it was "easy", that everyone can do it and that not much training is required apparently... because for me it will not be easy and I am still not sure if I can even finish (I know I am working on the mental thing )

This is harder to explain then I thought....

 



Edited by Joblin 2009-07-24 8:21 AM


2009-07-24 8:46 AM
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Subject: RE: HIM without much training...
Well yes, it can be annoying to hear about people who don't respect the distance.. that's how it is. At least they are getting off the sofa and doing something!

And honestly, in our situation, with SO FEW PEOPLE signing up, it's probably best to let them pay their entry fee. If they DNF, fine. If they suffer, fine. But the more people paying for the race, the better the chance it has of sticking around.

I might be an evil person, but I would at least hope that those people got some suffering on the course and ended the day thinking, "WOW! That was hard!"

Unfortunately, there are some naturally gifted people out there... who can go out and do those kind of distances... with very little training... and still beat my time by hours, when I trained my butt off. That's life.

2009-07-24 9:02 AM
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race your race.
2009-07-24 9:22 AM
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KSH - 2009-07-24 9:46 AM Well yes, it can be annoying to hear about people who don't respect the distance.. that's how it is. At least they are getting off the sofa and doing something! And honestly, in our situation, with SO FEW PEOPLE signing up, it's probably best to let them pay their entry fee. If they DNF, fine. If they suffer, fine. But the more people paying for the race, the better the chance it has of sticking around. I might be an evil person, but I would at least hope that those people got some suffering on the course and ended the day thinking, "WOW! That was hard!" Unfortunately, there are some naturally gifted people out there... who can go out and do those kind of distances... with very little training... and still beat my time by hours, when I trained my butt off. That's life.


KSH is such a smarty pants

On one hand ... it's annoying when people don't respect the distance.  HIM is no joke.

On the other... in an area with so few tris, the more who do it, the better. more publicity, more people who will tell their friends, coworkers, family about this awesome sport.

And I do think that MOST people - trained or undertrained - will, at some point during the race, think "holy s, this is tough"
.... and then maybe - just maybe - they will start to take the distance seriously, to train harder, and be better next year - and hopefully bring a few newbies with them !
2009-07-24 9:23 AM
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Subject: RE: HIM without much training...
Joblin - 2009-07-24 9:19 AM

Like Coldfire said, for me it was a lot about the journey, about following the plan, doing what is needed, overcoming sport injuries from the last 2 years, and loosing weight.....

I just don't want anyone to say afterwards that it was "easy", that everyone can do it and that not much training is required apparently... because for me it will not be easy and I am still not sure if I can even finish (I know I am working on the mental thing )



I doubt any of them, even if they all finish ahead of you, will say that it was "easy" afterwards.  And when they are done, all they will have is the satisfaction of going the distance on that day.  You will have the satisfaction of the "journey" and hopefully be on a path that has made, and will continue to make, a real difference in your life.  Be satisfied with that and don't worry what others might get out of it.
2009-07-24 11:45 AM
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Anyone that will say that was "easy" is lying. Even for the most highly trained athletes it is not easy. Some make it look easy but it is not. All will suffer at some point.

As others have said, you do this for you. Because you can. Someday you will not be able to do this so appreciate what you are accomplishing. Look at those who are suffering from disease or illness that wish they could just walk. You have been given a gift to get as far as you have. Enjoy and savor it.


2009-07-24 12:01 PM
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popsracer - 2009-07-24 12:45 PM
As others have said, you do this for you. Because you can. Someday you will not be able to do this so appreciate what you are accomplishing. Look at those who are suffering from disease or illness that wish they could just walk. You have been given a gift to get as far as you have. Enjoy and savor it.


WOW, well said!
2009-07-25 3:55 PM
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Thanks everyone. Some things really made sense and put things into perspective for me

2009-07-26 4:06 PM
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I see many of them doing a 13.1 mile walk....if they even make it to the run. I know people who have dropped out of sprints because they had minimal/no training and found that to be much harder than expected.

Joblin, you've worked hard this season and have the few years I've known you. Be very proud of your accomplishment. A HIM is a big deal and a huge accompishment .

GOOD LUCK!

2009-07-26 8:08 PM
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Joblin you will kick ***

I love the confused look I see on peoples face when they see an Athena passing them on the bike. Priceless. You trained hard and you're race will show it.
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