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2009-07-22 4:57 PM

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Subject: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT!

Might come to the thread late tomorrow.



2009-07-22 10:45 PM
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I am so excited to see this stage!  Should be awesome.
2009-07-23 5:48 AM
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Wow!!! According to online timing, Pate just made up 4'43" on Ignatiev in the 6.5km between time checks 3 and 4. That's what I call warp speed.

NM, it's fixed now.


Edited by strates 2009-07-23 5:49 AM
2009-07-23 7:45 AM
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Surprised the gap between Ignatiev and Cancellara wasn't bigger. I'm raising my eyebows, which I though I'd tell you, as you can't see me.

The start list with times is here.

GO WIGGO!!!!!

2009-07-23 7:51 AM
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Im here! Have I mentioned I LOVE TTs!!!!

2009-07-23 8:00 AM
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kaqphin - 2009-07-23 8:51 AM

Im here! Have I mentioned I LOVE TTs!!!!



Good morning/afternoon/evening

Still trying to get my video to come up.

2009-07-23 8:04 AM
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dalessit - 2009-07-23 11:00 PM
kaqphin - 2009-07-23 8:51 AM

Im here! Have I mentioned I LOVE TTs!!!!



Good morning/afternoon/evening

Still trying to get my video to come up.

Come on video!!!!

2009-07-23 8:12 AM
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kaqphin - 2009-07-23 9:04 AM

dalessit - 2009-07-23 11:00 PM
kaqphin - 2009-07-23 8:51 AM

Im here! Have I mentioned I LOVE TTs!!!!



Good morning/afternoon/evening

Still trying to get my video to come up.

Come on video!!!!



While I wait for my video too, CAT, can you give us your take on the Contador thing?

I watched last night and maybe I missed it, but I never saw him turn and ask Klodden if he was ready or able to go.  It just looked like good old Bertie taking all the glory for himself and screwing his teammates. 

I also thought Lance looked like he was really doing his part to keep Wiggo back, even chasing him down, passing, and then slowing him down (which I think is just mean on a Cat 1 climb).  What say Cat?
2009-07-23 8:16 AM
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I recently got Zinn Art of Triathlon Bike Maintenance and learned about sitting forward on the saddle.  Man, that made such a big difference.  If I can take the pain, I can turn some really fast speeds. 

One thing I've seen these guys doing a lot of (contador, cancellara, Menchov just a minute ago) is they pull forward on the seat and then scoot-back again.  They look like they're never comfortable on the seat.  I thought that'd lose some time until I read that they were really just trying to pull on the handlebars and generate more torque. 

Cat, I love TTs too.
2009-07-23 8:20 AM
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Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT!
GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 9:12 AM
kaqphin - 2009-07-23 9:04 AM

dalessit - 2009-07-23 11:00 PM
kaqphin - 2009-07-23 8:51 AM

Im here! Have I mentioned I LOVE TTs!!!!



Good morning/afternoon/evening

Still trying to get my video to come up.

Come on video!!!!



While I wait for my video too, CAT, can you give us your take on the Contador thing?

I watched last night and maybe I missed it, but I never saw him turn and ask Klodden if he was ready or able to go.  It just looked like good old Bertie taking all the glory for himself and screwing his teammates. 

I also thought Lance looked like he was really doing his part to keep Wiggo back, even chasing him down, passing, and then slowing him down (which I think is just mean on a Cat 1 climb).  What say Cat?


At some point you can see Contador point forward while he talk with Kloden, with 18.5km to go or so.  I can't find it anymore but yesterday I read something by Contador. He said "I told Andreas that I would attack and he told me go if you have the legs"

From that point of view it seems like AK never had the legs to follow AC and IMO AC shouldn't have attack.

Edited by rlejeune 2009-07-23 8:20 AM
2009-07-23 8:20 AM
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YAYa TT.... anyone know when the big guys go off?  Eastern time zone please.  I have to have the video feed on mute b/c of work

2009-07-23 8:20 AM
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Yikes, Tony Martin needs a napkin!  Good AM/PM, TT junkies.
2009-07-23 8:21 AM
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LOL, my video is almost there.  It says loading and I am seeing a picture of yesterdays stage...

 

Also for GB remember these guys are not riding to then run, so they are going to be a bit steeper and maybe a bit more uncomfortable to be faster.  LOL, after the TT they don't run the go get a massage.



Edited by dalessit 2009-07-23 8:22 AM
2009-07-23 8:22 AM
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Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 9:20 AM

YAYa TT.... anyone know when the big guys go off?  Eastern time zone please.  I have to have the video feed on mute b/c of work



Here's the list, remove 6 hours to have it Eastern time

126. SANCHEZ Luis-Leon 15:20:00
127. EVANS Cadel 15:22:00
128. POPOVYCH Yaroslav 15:24:00
129. DUPONT Hubert 15:26:00
130. MOREAU Christophe 15:28:00
131. SORENSEN Nicki 15:30:00
132. MONFORT Maxime 15:32:00
133. ZUBELDIA Haimar 15:34:00
134. GERDEMANN Linus 15:36:00
135. ROCHE Nicolas 15:38:00
136. CHAVANEL Sylvain 15:41:00
137. HINCAPIE George 15:44:00
138. ROLLAND Pierre 15:47:00
139. KNEES Christian 15:50:00
140. FEILLU Brice 15:53:00
141. BOTCHAROV Alexandre 15:56:00
142. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 15:59:00
143. GOUBERT Stephane 16:02:00
144. KARPETS Vladimir 16:05:00
145. CASAR Sandy 16:08:00
146. SASTRE Carlos 16:11:00
147. NOCENTINI Rinaldo 16:14:00
148. KREUZIGER Roman 16:17:00
149. ASTARLOZA Mikel 16:20:00
150. LE MEVEL Christophe 16:23:00
151. VANDE VELDE Christian 16:26:00
152. NIBALI Vincenzo 16:29:00
153. WIGGINS Bradley 16:32:00
154. KLÖDEN Andréas 16:35:00
155. ARMSTRONG Lance 16:38:00
156. SCHLECK Frank 16:41:00
157. SCHLECK Andy 16:44:00
158. CONTADOR Alberto 16:47:00
126. SANCHEZ Luis-Leon 15:20:00
127. EVANS Cadel 15:22:00
128. POPOVYCH Yaroslav 15:24:00
129. DUPONT Hubert 15:26:00
130. MOREAU Christophe 15:28:00
131. SORENSEN Nicki 15:30:00
132. MONFORT Maxime 15:32:00
133. ZUBELDIA Haimar 15:34:00
134. GERDEMANN Linus 15:36:00
135. ROCHE Nicolas 15:38:00
136. CHAVANEL Sylvain 15:41:00
137. HINCAPIE George 15:44:00
138. ROLLAND Pierre 15:47:00
139. KNEES Christian 15:50:00
140. FEILLU Brice 15:53:00
141. BOTCHAROV Alexandre 15:56:00
142. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 15:59:00
143. GOUBERT Stephane 16:02:00
144. KARPETS Vladimir 16:05:00
145. CASAR Sandy 16:08:00
146. SASTRE Carlos 16:11:00
147. NOCENTINI Rinaldo 16:14:00
148. KREUZIGER Roman 16:17:00
149. ASTARLOZA Mikel 16:20:00
150. LE MEVEL Christophe 16:23:00
151. VANDE VELDE Christian 16:26:00
152. NIBALI Vincenzo 16:29:00
153. WIGGINS Bradley 16:32:00
154. KLÖDEN Andréas 16:35:00
155. ARMSTRONG Lance 16:38:00
156. SCHLECK Frank 16:41:00
157. SCHLECK Andy 16:44:00
158. CONTADOR Alberto 16:47:00



Edited by rlejeune 2009-07-23 8:23 AM
2009-07-23 8:23 AM
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dalessit - 2009-07-23 9:21 AM

LOL, my video is almost there.  It says loading and I am seeing a picture of yesterdays stage...

 

Also for GB remember these guys are not riding to then run, so they are going to be a bit steeper and maybe a bit more uncomfortable to be faster.  LOL, after the TT they don't run the go get a massage.



Sorry.  I think I took your queue spot.  Cuddle's is racing now.  He's going fast!!!

Anyone think they should design the decals on the disk wheels to say a word or have a picture when you hit say 25mph.  That'd be cool.  I'm sure you can do it optically.
2009-07-23 8:24 AM
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do any of you guys buy the DVD's of the whole TdF when its over?

2009-07-23 8:26 AM
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Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 9:24 AM

do any of you guys buy the DVD's of the whole TdF when its over?



I don't.  It'll be Football Season soon and that'll hold me over until Feb, then the Masters, then some baseball, then TDF, then football.  It's a vicious cycle...

Anyone see how wide Ryder Hesjedal's handlebars were?
2009-07-23 8:28 AM
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Oh Carp! Thunderstorms could delay the race.  That'll benefit some guys who go out early...
2009-07-23 8:30 AM
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GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 9:26 AM
Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 9:24 AM

do any of you guys buy the DVD's of the whole TdF when its over?



I don't.  It'll be Football Season soon and that'll hold me over until Feb, then the Masters, then some baseball, then TDF, then football.  It's a vicious cycle...

Anyone see how wide Ryder Hesjedal's handlebars were?


hehe I like the way you think.
2009-07-23 8:31 AM
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GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 9:23 AM
dalessit - 2009-07-23 9:21 AM

LOL, my video is almost there.  It says loading and I am seeing a picture of yesterdays stage...

 

Also for GB remember these guys are not riding to then run, so they are going to be a bit steeper and maybe a bit more uncomfortable to be faster.  LOL, after the TT they don't run the go get a massage.



Sorry.  I think I took your queue spot.  Cuddle's is racing now.  He's going fast!!!

Anyone think they should design the decals on the disk wheels to say a word or have a picture when you hit say 25mph.  That'd be cool.  I'm sure you can do it optically.

 

I think that would be cool.  Didn't lane already do this with his design?

2009-07-23 8:33 AM
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GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 11:12 PM
kaqphin - 2009-07-23 9:04 AM

dalessit - 2009-07-23 11:00 PM
kaqphin - 2009-07-23 8:51 AM

Im here! Have I mentioned I LOVE TTs!!!!



Good morning/afternoon/evening

Still trying to get my video to come up.

Come on video!!!!



While I wait for my video too, CAT, can you give us your take on the Contador thing?

I watched last night and maybe I missed it, but I never saw him turn and ask Klodden if he was ready or able to go.  It just looked like good old Bertie taking all the glory for himself and screwing his teammates. 

I also thought Lance looked like he was really doing his part to keep Wiggo back, even chasing him down, passing, and then slowing him down (which I think is just mean on a Cat 1 climb).  What say Cat?

What do I think of the whole thing?

I think Contador isnt great strategically..

I think Lance is great strategically...

I think I would like Kloden to get the chance to ride as team leader on his own team...

Ummm.... I think Astana sweeping the podium is a realistic outcome but it shouldnt be THE focus for the team...

I hope they dont!

 

Contador did the right thing as a yellow jersey contender....

Kloden didnt have it....

Lance did the right thing strategically as the support for the yellow jersey...

 

2009-07-23 8:37 AM
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Anyone getting VS online video today?  Or is it just me with problems.
2009-07-23 8:38 AM
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GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 11:16 PM

Cat, I love TTs too.

Arent they fabulous?

2009-07-23 8:38 AM
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dalessit - 2009-07-23 8:37 AM Anyone getting VS online video today?  Or is it just me with problems.

I had it, but it's cut out just now.

2009-07-23 8:39 AM
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