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2012-10-22 10:09 AM

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Subject: Conflict of interest?

What say you CoJ?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/10/20/romney-family-investment-ties-to-voting-machine-company-that-could-decide-the-election-causes-concern/3/

Tagg Romney and family has ties to a voting machine company.  Not saying that they would do anything but even the implication of conflict of interest, shouldn't they, in some way, divest of said company? 



2012-10-22 10:11 AM
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They only sold them in Florida. What's the worst that could happen?
2012-10-22 11:11 AM
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The article seems to be written by someone with a serious case of ADD.  But the below article suggests this story has been around since at-least July of 2011.  If the government officials had decided the machines were not 100% trustworthy (or at least 99.999999%) then they should have gone with a different method.  Same thing went for the butterfly ballots that were not new for the 2000 election, they just made a difference in the election.

http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2012/10/romney_associat.htm

As a new resident in Austin, I can say a voting machine company from here probably won't lean right...

As a Palm Beach County voter (for the last time), I don't leave my ballot until it goes through the machine and I get my receipt...  Last time around, a guy standing next to the machine said "the Machine's been having some issues, if you want to give it to me, I'll put it in."  I said "I'll wait until it works..."

2012-10-22 11:11 AM
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I read about that over the weekend.  

I think if our polling machines are susceptible to anyone being able to sway the results then there's no way we should be using those polling machines no matter who owns the company.  

Every polling machine company is owned by somebody with political bias so the logic would be that the process has to be better than the machine.  There have to be some kind of checks and balances in place to ensure that all of the polling machines are fair and not able to be manipulated.

2012-10-22 11:19 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM

As a new resident in Austin, I can say a voting machine company from here probably won't lean right


*Computer Voice* - You voted Republican....are you sure that is what you meant?

*You* - Yes.

*Computer Voice* - Positive?

*You* - Yes

*Computer Voice* - Really?

*You* - Mm-hmm

*Computer Voice* - I went ahead and changed your vote for you. This is Austin.

2012-10-22 11:22 AM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-10-22 12:19 PM
GomesBolt - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM As a new resident in Austin, I can say a voting machine company from here probably won't lean right
*Computer Voice* - You voted Republican....are you sure that is what you meant? *You* - Yes. *Computer Voice* - Positive? *You* - Yes *Computer Voice* - Really? *You* - Mm-hmm *Computer Voice* - I went ahead and changed your vote for you. This is Austin.

You forgot:

 

HAL9000: I can't let you do that Dave.



2012-10-22 11:23 AM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-10-22 12:19 PM
GomesBolt - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM As a new resident in Austin, I can say a voting machine company from here probably won't lean right
*Computer Voice* - You voted Republican....are you sure that is what you meant? *You* - Yes. *Computer Voice* - Positive? *You* - Yes *Computer Voice* - Really? *You* - Mm-hmm *Computer Voice* - I went ahead and changed your vote for you. This is Austin.

Good one.

You know, it's liberal for Texas which wouldn't be liberal most places.  You see Romney stickers on Chevy Volts and Obama stickers on big ol' Dodge trucks...

 

2012-10-22 11:25 AM
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I just worry about ending up working in a factory in China for the next 100 years. Next to Ned Flanders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj3BicxSSws
2012-10-22 11:27 AM
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tuwood - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM

I read about that over the weekend.  

I think if our polling machines are susceptible to anyone being able to sway the results then there's no way we should be using those polling machines no matter who owns the company.  

Every polling machine company is owned by somebody with political bias so the logic would be that the process has to be better than the machine.  There have to be some kind of checks and balances in place to ensure that all of the polling machines are fair and not able to be manipulated.

Right but with a potential DIRECT benefit?  That's my concern, whether it has been a story since 2011 or not.  To me it is a conflict.  Irregardless of whether you believe in electronic voting.

2012-10-22 11:30 AM
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tuwood - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM

I read about that over the weekend.  

I think if our polling machines are susceptible to anyone being able to sway the results then there's no way we should be using those polling machines no matter who owns the company.  

Every polling machine company is owned by somebody with political bias so the logic would be that the process has to be better than the machine.  There have to be some kind of checks and balances in place to ensure that all of the polling machines are fair and not able to be manipulated.

Right but with a potential DIRECT benefit?  That's my concern, whether it has been a story since 2011 or not.  To me it is a conflict.  Irregardless of whether you believe in electronic voting.

Are they the screen-voting ones or are they machines that tally your votes? 

If the latter, I don't think there's any way to truly tamper with the vote count.  If they're the former, those are just not a good idea.  Think of all the double-posts on here and we're all pretty technology-adept.

2012-10-22 11:45 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-10-22 10:30 AM
crowny2 - 2012-10-22 12:27 PM
tuwood - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM

I read about that over the weekend.  

I think if our polling machines are susceptible to anyone being able to sway the results then there's no way we should be using those polling machines no matter who owns the company.  

Every polling machine company is owned by somebody with political bias so the logic would be that the process has to be better than the machine.  There have to be some kind of checks and balances in place to ensure that all of the polling machines are fair and not able to be manipulated.

Right but with a potential DIRECT benefit?  That's my concern, whether it has been a story since 2011 or not.  To me it is a conflict.  Irregardless of whether you believe in electronic voting.

Are they the screen-voting ones or are they machines that tally your votes? 

If the latter, I don't think there's any way to truly tamper with the vote count.  If they're the former, those are just not a good idea.  Think of all the double-posts on here and we're all pretty technology-adept.

What if I try to hit the button as fast as possible to see if I can get a few extra votes through?



2012-10-22 11:52 AM
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crowny2 - 2012-10-22 11:27 AM
tuwood - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM

I read about that over the weekend.  

I think if our polling machines are susceptible to anyone being able to sway the results then there's no way we should be using those polling machines no matter who owns the company.  

Every polling machine company is owned by somebody with political bias so the logic would be that the process has to be better than the machine.  There have to be some kind of checks and balances in place to ensure that all of the polling machines are fair and not able to be manipulated.

Right but with a potential DIRECT benefit?  That's my concern, whether it has been a story since 2011 or not.  To me it is a conflict.  Irregardless of whether you believe in electronic voting.

Now that's a whole other topic.  I'm strongly against electronic voting no matter who the company is.  

2012-10-22 12:09 PM
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I'm investing heavily in chads.
2012-10-22 12:31 PM
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-10-22 12:09 PM I'm investing heavily in chads.

2012-10-22 12:40 PM
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It's a pretty tenuous connection (investments in a company that invests in a company).  To orchestrate outright voter fraud of this scale, in this day of investigative reporting, would be pretty amazing.



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2012-10-22 12:44 PM
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JoshR - 2012-10-22 12:45 PM
GomesBolt - 2012-10-22 10:30 AM
crowny2 - 2012-10-22 12:27 PM
tuwood - 2012-10-22 11:11 AM

I read about that over the weekend.  

I think if our polling machines are susceptible to anyone being able to sway the results then there's no way we should be using those polling machines no matter who owns the company.  

Every polling machine company is owned by somebody with political bias so the logic would be that the process has to be better than the machine.  There have to be some kind of checks and balances in place to ensure that all of the polling machines are fair and not able to be manipulated.

Right but with a potential DIRECT benefit?  That's my concern, whether it has been a story since 2011 or not.  To me it is a conflict.  Irregardless of whether you believe in electronic voting.

Are they the screen-voting ones or are they machines that tally your votes? 

If the latter, I don't think there's any way to truly tamper with the vote count.  If they're the former, those are just not a good idea.  Think of all the double-posts on here and we're all pretty technology-adept.

What if I try to hit the button as fast as possible to see if I can get a few extra votes through?

Don't think I won't try that if I see one of those stupid screens...  Knowing my luck it'll select Pat Buchanan...



2012-10-22 12:46 PM
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This is really funny actually:  http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/21/cbs-news-affiliate-calls-2012-presidential-race-for-barack-obama-weeks-ahead-of-election/

I sent it to my Lobbyist buddy in Phoenix who has been on this channel several times and he said he had not even heard about it today...

Too funny.

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