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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I’ve toyed with the idea of doing an Ironman for a couple of years, but always seem to get hung up on the lack of time to commit to training. Well, that was when I really thought that it would take 15-20 hours a week to properly train for an Ironman. Now I have decided that I could do it on half that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not talking about shorting myself here or cutting corners. I just don’t think that the extra 100’s of training hours would add up to a significant difference in my finish time. I realize that the training is building a solid base to make race day ‘easier’, but I think I’m ok with a bit of a struggle. Based on times and performances I’ve had in each of the individual sports (I know they are harder all together) I think I can finish in the 12-13 hour range with my modest training, whereas doubling the training would probably get me in the 11-12 hour range, and that won’t get me to Hawaii. I guess what I’m wondering, is does anyone else have a similar outlook? I would love to be able to train 20 hours a week, I really would, but with a job and family, it’s just not practical. |
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![]() | ![]() It's a complicated question not knowing anything about you or your training in the recent past. I think you could "finish" an Ironman on 7-10 of training a week, not sure about 12-13 hour finish. For most of the season the 7 - 10 hours would probably work, but in the months leading up to the IM, you will really need to get your long bike and long run milage up. Those two day's alone would be most of the 7 - 10 hrs. The reason I say this is there is a significant amount of training your body needs to be able to learn how to "fuel" itself, in addition to the obvious endurance you get from the long workouts. You have to train yourself how to get calories in on the bike and run. No calories in (in the form of an upset stomach or GI issues), means, more than likely, DNF. If you think you could find a way to add in a few more hours a week in the 12 weeks leading up to the event I think you would be just fine. Just my 2 cents. Best of Luck! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It honestly depends on how efficient you are. Don't get me wrong, IM training takes up a good bit of time, but it's not 20+ hr week after 20+ hr week. Done right, IMO, you will have some 18+ hr weeks here and there, but they are not all the time. Plus, the bulk of that comes with long rides on the weekend. Again, you can be done and back home by 12 -1 if you do it right. Can you cross the finish line on light training...sure. But really look at your schedule and I would wager there is time there. I am normally done with my training by 7:30 each night. So, in short, it can be done. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I guess I should clarify that I was referring to average training hours per week. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm with you on the lack of time. I have a 4 month old at home and time is a premium. I plan on doing my first IM next year and I plan on following the 13 weeks to a 13 hour Ironman plan. I was able to get a PR on my HIM even with a new baby at home so I figure if I get up and on the bike by 5 in the morning next year I should be home by 11 or 12 on my longest ride days. That isn't that bad. I figure that there will never be "enough" time to train so I should just jump into it and make it work. Alot depends also on your support system at home. My wife thinks I am nuts and does get upset sometimes but I try to get everything in early and spend the rest of the day with them. Figure this is your only crack at it, even if it's not, and try to make it work. I just wanna finish like you and am not trying to do anything special out there except say I finished one. Good luck! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I actually don't know too many IM athletes that train over 15 hours per week. 20 is a ton. I think you can do very well on 12 hours per week. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PennState - 2008-08-28 2:29 PM Several thoughts for you... 1. Quality of training hours is more important than actual # of hours. Learning how to make training high quality takes time too! You are free to do whatever you like (as we all are Hit. The. Nail. On. The. Head. IMHO, an IM can be "done" on ~10-13hrs/week, but it won't be fast, and probably won't be much fun. What really ups the volume down the line is the 100 mile rides & 20 mile runs. Unless you're a really strong cyclist and/or runner, I think it'd be d@mn near impossible to pull off an IM w/o long rides/runs of significant distance. FWIW, my IMAZ 07 training hrs were genereally 17-21hrs/week, and I finished in 13:16:58. Peak week was 23.75 hrs, and average non-peak was probably 16-17. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So much of it depends on your base too. If you have been putting in 7-10 hours every week for years and years you are going to be in much shape come race day then if you have only been putting those hours in for the past 6 months or year. I think there is a guy on BT (Steve something?) that only trains 7-10 hours per week and always seems to finish his IM's in the 11-13 hour range, but he has been putting that type of training time in for years. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, I've always been very comfortable on the bike and don't think 112 miles would be a problem and have ran 2 marathons, so that doesn't bother me either. It's just putting it all together. |
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![]() Fred, agree with your points generally, but are you saying a typical age grouper is (or should) be doing almost 900 bike miles a month in the peak build? |
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![]() | ![]() If it makes you feel any better, I did my first Ironman on a max of 12 hours/week (only twice) and most of the time was around 7-10 hours a week. I finished in 11:24. What I did have was an excellent base for 2 years, especially in cycling. I also trained consistenly and frequently focusing on building exceptional skills for efficiency. For instance, I had no time for 2 hour bike rides during the week. But I did ride during the week (on an indoor trainer) for anywhere from 30 minutes to 1 hour three times per week. Add the long ride on the weekend and I biked 4 times per week. I consistently swam 3 times per week. I ran three times per week with one run being a brick. I alternated long run weeks and long ride weeks. Every workout had a purpose with quality being of utmost importance. I am very injury prone due to some anatomical "anomalies" so a lot of weekly hours just wouldn't work for me. So, it can be done! Andi Edited by Anditrigirl 2008-08-28 3:59 PM |
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![]() | ![]() Forgot to mention, in Gale Bernhardt's Training Plans for Multisport Athletes there is a plan "13 weeks to a 13 hour Ironman" and the peak weekly training is 13 hours. Going into the plan I think you need to have a base of around 8 hours a week of training, but don't quote me on that. Andi |
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Sensei![]() | ![]() I'm currently using the BT intermediate IM plan. So far it seems to be about 13-15 hours a week. That is about the max I felt comfortable giving to it... I have seen some plans that call for weeks of 20hrs or more, and felt like I wouldn't be able to do it, and then I knew I would feel bad (like I fell short of the goal or cheated myself). I wanted a plan that I KNEW I could complete, and feel a sense of accomplisment week after week. However, this is my first IM and my goal is, first and foremost, to finish strong. I could have probably gotten away with less training, and still survived, but I do want to be a little competitive. Check in mid Nov. and I will be able to tell you how it went. |
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![]() PennState - 2008-08-28 2:03 PM ChrisM - 2008-08-28 4:39 PM Fred, agree with your points generally, but are you saying a typical age grouper is (or should) be doing almost 900 bike miles a month in the peak build? You are probably right Chris... this was high. However, hours wise I think I averaged 18 a week in themonth in June... on tri specific training. My miles are higher due to faster pacing than some... but I would think my hours are typical of a 'serious' IM athlete. Yeah, no doubt, you want to go sub 11, you do that. You're just fast on the bike and run (and swim) if you got all that done in 18 hours a week |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Comparing my hours to say someone like Fred it is totally different as he is much faster at everything so his 110 mile ride may take 1-2 hours less than mine. So it kind of tough to compare hours from one athlete to another unless you are pretty close to your paces. I think Fred brought up great points. Why do an IM next year? They will always be there but your child will be a baby and a toddler just once. With young children it is the most time intensive time parenting. I have 5 kids and never could train like I do when they were little..time wise sprints and Olys would have fit. The highest training hours are really only about 2 month before your IM taper so about 10-11 weeks out from the IM. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think there is no doubt that you can successfully complete an IM in 12 hrs a week of training. I did L.P last month with my peak week of 14 hrs. Do quality workouts and get rid of all the junk milage and you will be fine. Good luck |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I coached an athlete last season who averaged about 11hpw and peaked just over 14, IIRC (it's close to those numbers anyway) and he was able to finish with a solid time so it is definitely possible in the range that you are considering. However, if you are going to attempt this, I would hope that you either have a very solid understanding of endurance training or you should hire a coach. The reason for that is in order to train effectively for IM on reduced training hours you are going to need to manage your training load (through intensity) very carefully and will probably be flirting with injury as a result. Shane |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I feel like I do have a pretty solid understanding of endurance training and know my body pretty well. While I'm talking more in theory than anything, I'm also considering the base that I currently have as my theoretical starting point. Right now I probably average 30 mpw running and an hour and a half on the bike. I'm not in any way trying to discount anyone's opinions or make light of anyone else's situation. We all have our own reasons for wanting to do an Ironman and mine is honestly the 'life goal' right now. I'm only 33 and would like to be more 'competitive' at some point later in life, but for now I'd just like a time that I can be happy with. I'm sure their are people that do very good times on even less training than I'm talking about. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I certainly have an idea about what I want to do, but I am very curious if others had similar experiences. It seems to me that others have tried and accomplished what I am hoping for. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() gsmacleod - 2008-08-28 9:32 PM I coached an athlete last season who averaged about 11hpw and peaked just over 14, IIRC (it's close to those numbers anyway) and he was able to finish with a solid time so it is definitely possible in the range that you are considering. However, if you are going to attempt this, I would hope that you either have a very solid understanding of endurance training or you should hire a coach. The reason for that is in order to train effectively for IM on reduced training hours you are going to need to manage your training load (through intensity) very carefully and will probably be flirting with injury as a result. Shane I bolded the VERY important part. |
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![]() This user's post has been ignored. Edited by PennState 2008-08-29 7:57 AM |
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