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 2009-06-11 4:35 PM |
Veteran  238   Iowa |  Subject: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit??Seems to be extremely varying opinions, so I thought i'd try a poll. So, for a sprint tri with swim of 820 yards in 71 degree water (measured at shoreline I suspect), yes or no wetsuit? |
| 2009-06-11 4:39 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? Well I have a 3 mile swim in 70 degree water... and I'm struggling... wetsuit or no wetsuit. I'm going to take a sleeveless with me, and if the water is just all out too cold... I'm putting it on. I just worry about swimming 3 miles in one, when I haven't done it in practice. I'll swim better without it, but I have a strong adversion to cold water and being cold. |
| 2009-06-11 4:46 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? I'll make this really simple: You always wear a wetsuit when it's allowed. You don't just wear a wetsuit to stay warm, you wear it for the energy savings made possible by being more buoyant and more "slippery" in the water. You will swim faster, and you will save more energy doing so. Even in a Sprint, you wear a wetsuit. |
| 2009-06-11 4:59 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Elite 3650  Laurium, MI | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? IMHO 71 is perfect temperature to race sans-wetsuit. If you are a good swimmer, and the suit isn't going to speed you up all that much, skip it. You'll spend more time getting out of it then you gain over 850 yards. If your swimming isn't so hot, go ahead and wear it. The time savings will still probably be close to what it takes to get it off, but finishing the swim with less energy and lower stress will make the rest of the race go better. |
| 2009-06-11 5:23 PM in reply to: #2211740 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? scoobysdad - 2009-06-11 4:46 PM I'll make this really simple: You always wear a wetsuit when it's allowed. You don't just wear a wetsuit to stay warm, you wear it for the energy savings made possible by being more buoyant and more "slippery" in the water. You will swim faster, and you will save more energy doing so. Even in a Sprint, you wear a wetsuit. Now, I haven't tried a sleeveless wetsuit... but the full body wetsuit... doesn't help me at all. In fact, it slows me down because it messes with my stroke just enough that I'm not as efficient in the water. I am hoping that a sleeveless won't do the same thing though, if I have to use it for my 3 miler. |
| 2009-06-11 5:27 PM in reply to: #2211740 |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? scoobysdad - 2009-06-11 4:46 PM I'll make this really simple: You always wear a wetsuit when it's allowed. You don't just wear a wetsuit to stay warm, you wear it for the energy savings made possible by being more buoyant and more "slippery" in the water. You will swim faster, and you will save more energy doing so. Even in a Sprint, you wear a wetsuit. +1 Always (unless we're talking under 250 yds). Wetsuit make you faster its as simple as that. |
| 2009-06-11 5:32 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? If you take so long to take off a wetsuit that you lose all the time gained in the swim, then you need to practice removing the wetsuit more quickly. It's not that hard. |
| 2009-06-11 5:35 PM in reply to: #2211740 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? scoobysdad - 2009-06-11 5:46 PM I'll make this really simple: You always wear a wetsuit when it's allowed. You don't just wear a wetsuit to stay warm, you wear it for the energy savings made possible by being more buoyant and more "slippery" in the water. You will swim faster, and you will save more energy doing so. Even in a Sprint, you wear a wetsuit. Bingo ...... winner winner chicken dinner. |
| 2009-06-11 6:00 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Expert 1123 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? The bigger question is, how good are you at taking one off? |
| 2009-06-11 6:03 PM in reply to: #2211837 |
| Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? Daremo - 2009-06-11 3:35 PM scoobysdad - 2009-06-11 5:46 PM I'll make this really simple: You always wear a wetsuit when it's allowed. You don't just wear a wetsuit to stay warm, you wear it for the energy savings made possible by being more buoyant and more "slippery" in the water. You will swim faster, and you will save more energy doing so. Even in a Sprint, you wear a wetsuit. Bingo ...... winner winner chicken dinner. mmm hmm dat's right. And taking it off takes less than 5 seconds. I am quite sure I am faster than 5 seconds over 850 yards with than without Edited by ChrisM 2009-06-11 6:04 PM |
| 2009-06-11 6:47 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
| Extreme Veteran 1030 West Windsor, NJ | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? Legal = wear it. Period. Agreed with the above posts. If you are taking that long to get it off. Practice. If its interfering with your stroke, you dont have the right suit or the right size. |
| 2009-06-11 7:40 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Extreme Veteran 495 Denton | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? For myself, I'd wear a wetsuit, but definitely a sleeveless. |
| 2009-06-11 10:02 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Veteran 238 Iowa | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? Thanks everyone for your input. Several of us newbs had this question for the weekend, you all are the best! |
| 2009-06-12 10:28 AM in reply to: #2211690 |
Master 2042 Albany, NY | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? This is a good question... and in a few weeks I have pretty much the same type of swim planned. But I hadn't even considered a wetsuit, more because I personally feel I am very comfortable in the water and always viewed wetsuits as more of a pain to get out of than they were worth. Assuming this 820 yard swim and ease of getting out... how much time can a wetsuit realistically save at this distance? I'm really just curious because maybe I have been not considering a wetsuit myself for all the wrong reasons. |
| 2009-06-12 10:38 AM in reply to: #2211769 |
Master 1420 Reston, VA | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? VO2Matt - 2009-06-11 5:59 PM IMHO 71 is perfect temperature to race sans-wetsuit. If you are a good swimmer, and the suit isn't going to speed you up all that much, skip it. You'll spend more time getting out of it then you gain over 850 yards. If your swimming isn't so hot, go ahead and wear it. The time savings will still probably be close to what it takes to get it off, but finishing the swim with less energy and lower stress will make the rest of the race go better. If you are a good swimmer a wetsuit will generally save you 4-6 seconds per 100. If you are a slower swimmer the wetsuit will save you even more time per 100. If you are effecient at getting out of the wetsuit, it should take you somewhere around 5-10 seconds. Wear the wetsuit and good luck! |
| 2009-06-12 10:42 AM in reply to: #2211690 |
Master 2042 Albany, NY | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? wow... I had no idea. Thanks! Definitely gives me something to think about. |
| 2009-06-12 10:46 AM in reply to: #2213259 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? docswim24 - 2009-06-12 10:38 AM VO2Matt - 2009-06-11 5:59 PM IMHO 71 is perfect temperature to race sans-wetsuit. If you are a good swimmer, and the suit isn't going to speed you up all that much, skip it. You'll spend more time getting out of it then you gain over 850 yards. If your swimming isn't so hot, go ahead and wear it. The time savings will still probably be close to what it takes to get it off, but finishing the swim with less energy and lower stress will make the rest of the race go better. If you are a good swimmer a wetsuit will generally save you 4-6 seconds per 100. If you are a slower swimmer the wetsuit will save you even more time per 100. If you are effecient at getting out of the wetsuit, it should take you somewhere around 5-10 seconds. Wear the wetsuit and good luck! I have proof from race results that wearing a wetsuit made me slower.  Just saying. But maybe I'm an odd case? |
| 2009-06-12 11:52 AM in reply to: #2213224 |
| Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? rnihill - 2009-06-12 9:28 AM This is a good question... and in a few weeks I have pretty much the same type of swim planned. But I hadn't even considered a wetsuit, more because I personally feel I am very comfortable in the water and always viewed wetsuits as more of a pain to get out of than they were worth. Assuming this 820 yard swim and ease of getting out... how much time can a wetsuit realistically save at this distance? I'm really just curious because maybe I have been not considering a wetsuit myself for all the wrong reasons. Once you get used to taking them off, it should be a really quick process. It just takes some practice. And if the race has strippers, its even better!!!! |
| 2009-06-12 12:00 PM in reply to: #2211690 |
Member 35 Central Valley - California | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? Personally I hate wetsuits - too constraining - too tight around the shoulders - I get tired faster and swim slower. So I'll swim without one whenever and wherever I can. |
| 2009-06-12 12:40 PM in reply to: #2213224 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? rnihill - 2009-06-12 10:28 AM This is a good question... and in a few weeks I have pretty much the same type of swim planned. But I hadn't even considered a wetsuit, more because I personally feel I am very comfortable in the water and always viewed wetsuits as more of a pain to get out of than they were worth. Assuming this 820 yard swim and ease of getting out... how much time can a wetsuit realistically save at this distance? I'm really just curious because maybe I have been not considering a wetsuit myself for all the wrong reasons. I am an average swimmer. The difference for me is 18 seconds/100! I found it easy to get out of. Therefore as long as the swim is not real short (250 yds.) I will wear one when legal. |
| 2009-07-15 8:57 AM in reply to: #2211690 |
| 10 | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? I've never worn a wetsuit but from everything I've heard and read (for the most part) they're recommended when legal. However, I've never worn a wetsuit and I have a sprint-tri on Sunday. Should I rent one on race day (which concerns me as I'd rather not introduce something new on race-day) or buy one or what would anybody recommend for somebody in my shoes? |
| 2009-07-15 9:03 AM in reply to: #2286420 |
Champion 5117 Brandon, MS | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? hansjohn35 - 2009-07-15 8:57 AM I've never worn a wetsuit but from everything I've heard and read (for the most part) they're recommended when legal. However, I've never worn a wetsuit and I have a sprint-tri on Sunday. Should I rent one on race day (which concerns me as I'd rather not introduce something new on race-day) or buy one or what would anybody recommend for somebody in my shoes? How cold will the water be and how long is the swim? There will be a point where the chill and the distance will justify the cost of renting a wetsuit, but that point will be different for nearly everyone. |
| 2009-07-15 9:08 AM in reply to: #2211690 |
Champion 5117 Brandon, MS | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? As to the OP: Yeah, I'd wear one because I have one. As much as I don't like wearing one, it does help. I could swim without it at that temp, so I'd have a silly argument with myself over it while always knowing I'd be putting it on. Now, if I didn't have one and I was about to do that race, then I wouldn't shell out the money to rent or buy one for that race. That's just me, though. |
| 2009-07-15 9:10 AM in reply to: #2211690 |
| 10 | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? It's an 800 meter swim. If the water temperature has been reported accurately, event coordination is indicating 79 degrees as of 7/14. |
| 2009-07-15 9:22 AM in reply to: #2286459 |
Champion 5117 Brandon, MS | Subject: RE: 71 degree water, 820 yds, wetsuit?? hansjohn35 - 2009-07-15 9:10 AM It's an 800 meter swim. If the water temperature has been reported accurately, event coordination is indicating 79 degrees as of 7/14. 79 would fall into the category of allowed but not eligible for awards if it's a USAT sanctioned event. For me, I would not be renting a suit if I didn't have one nor wearing one if I owned one. That's not because I'd be knocking myself out of placing or anything, but because I would feel overheated doing 800m in a full wetsuit. |
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