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  2009-07-17 9:49 AM |
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Champion 8540      the colony texas | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week AcesFull - 2009-07-17 9:49 AM Doing a sprint tomorrow, and my last scheduled event of the year. Was planning on hitting the Chisago HIM next year. Nice event, good, flat course. Suddenly I start considering signing up for THIS year's event, which 7/26. I'm confident I could complete the swim easily, and although the bike would be a bit of a stretch, I have no doubt I will finish. The run is a different story. My longest run to date is 8 miles, which I did in early July... 2008. These days I run infrequently, and usually 3-5 miles. I'm thinking of three options: #1 Wait until next year. I have the registration page open...somebody stop (or encourage) me. Do they have an official aqua bike,, for a lower price?? |
| 2009-07-17 9:52 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Hmmmm........how much of a masochist are you?? Kind of need to know that before talking you into this! Or out of it! |
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Champion 10020 , Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week DON'T DO IT. Try an Oly first, for pete's sake. Even if it's the stupid one in St. Paul next month. You have not done an Oly yet, right? Based on your experiences so far, I say don't do it. |
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| Champion 10020 , Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week How did the rest of it go? You don't have an RR for it. Did you feel ready to do it all over again at the end? If not, then I say no. AcesFull - 2009-07-17 10:01 AM BikerGrrrl - 2009-07-17 9:59 AM DON'T DO IT. Try an Oly first, for pete's sake. Even if it's the stupid one in St. Paul next month. You have not done an Oly yet, right? Based on your experiences so far, I say don't do it. Did Turtleman last year, narrowly avoided a DFL after flatting 12 miles into the bike. Edited by BikerGrrrl 2009-07-17 10:03 AM |
| 2009-07-17 10:12 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Member 381 | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week i vote against option #2. never plan to quit, that just sucks. option #1 is obviously the most reasonable. i would say go for it (#3) if you had run some 8-10 mile runs this summer, but since you are sub 5 miles for your longest runs, I think that the jump to 13.1 would be quite a stretch, especially after a longer than ever bike effort. that said, who are we to be nay-sayers? if you feel like you can suffer through these significant departures from your training AND you enjoy suffering, then do it! |
| 2009-07-17 10:16 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Curious as to why you are considering it when you are nowhere close to trained for it? Its a dumb idea. I am not a crusher of dumb ideas and heck, I have even gone with a few of my own, but I dont see the upside unless you want to tick off a HIM or burn some cash or are just bored. Maybe go train a bit instead for next year? Do a longer ride or run for free? Dunno. |
| 2009-07-17 10:18 AM in reply to: #2291607 |
| Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week djluscher - 2009-07-17 10:12 AM that said, who are we to be nay-sayers? if you feel like you can suffer through these significant departures from your training AND you enjoy suffering, then do it! This is just it- i think a lot of us have put ourselves in situations where we are stretching, so not saying dont do it, just saying maybe not the smartest decision. Probably not too helpful but if you are up for sufferfests like some of us, knock yourself out. |
| 2009-07-17 10:19 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week I"d either not take running shoes and do you own little aqua bike or not do it at all.. could you do it sure, I"m confident you could but you have a great chance of being pretty miserable or injured. have you been doing many 3hr bike rides?? you bike fitness is a big indicator of your run fitness.. My personal opinion is I think it's much better to be trained for a longer event or have a great base where you can handle it, than do it and not enjoy it. but again thats just me.. you ahve most likely signed up since I started writing this  |
| 2009-07-17 10:22 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Master 2021 Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week If your logs are accurate, a HIM might be a stretch. I totally think an Oly is do-able. However, as another poster stated.........who are we to say you can not do it? You will never learn more about yourself than when you are in the biggest sufferfest of your life. Or, you could go out and spank it, you never know. Swim, bike, DNF = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO That remindes me of a sticker I have seen, Death before DNF. If you do sign up, remember it will be all about pacing. Don't worry about your time, just focus on finishing. |
| 2009-07-17 10:22 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week I say go for it. If it were me I'd think of it as a scouting mission for next year. Have a nice easy pace on the bike and if you have to walk some than who cares. My only caveat would be if you need to push yourself to the point of possible injury or extreme fatigue (meaning ending up in the medical tent) just to finish I would not. |
| 2009-07-17 10:23 AM in reply to: #2291638 |
| Master 2021 Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week jszat - 2009-07-17 11:18 AM djluscher - 2009-07-17 10:12 AM that said, who are we to be nay-sayers? if you feel like you can suffer through these significant departures from your training AND you enjoy suffering, then do it! This is just it- i think a lot of us have put ourselves in situations where we are stretching, so not saying dont do it, just saying maybe not the smartest decision. Probably not too helpful but if you are up for sufferfests like some of us, knock yourself out. 2X |
| 2009-07-17 10:30 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week I won't give you advice on which option to choose, but I can share my first HIM experience. I did train, for about 16 weeks. Running is my strength. I still felt like I barely finished that run and did have to stop and walk for about 30 seconds a few times. That 56 mile ride killed my legs. Without the training I'm not sure my legs could've made it the full 13 miles, walking or otherwise. |
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| Elite 2768 Raleigh | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week jszat - 2009-07-17 10:16 AM Curious as to why you are considering it when you are nowhere close to trained for it? Its a dumb idea. I am not a crusher of dumb ideas and heck, I have even gone with a few of my own, but I dont see the upside unless you want to tick off a HIM or burn some cash or are just bored. Maybe go train a bit instead for next year? Do a longer ride or run for free? Dunno. Because that is what people do here on BT, post a question about doing a race that they are not trained for and then have a bunch of people who have never done the distance tell them to "go for it" and "prove the nay-sayers wrong"; even though they know themselves they need to wait. They let "beginners" tell them to do a race or not...
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| 2009-07-17 10:34 AM in reply to: #2291662 |
| Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Coldfire - 2009-07-17 10:22 AM Swim, bike, DNF = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO That remindes me of a sticker I have seen, Death before DNF. If you do sign up, remember it will be all about pacing. Don't worry about your time, just focus on finishing. Completely agree with this. If you are going to bother, dont pull this planned DNF cr@p. Either dont do it or enjoy the abuse. |
| 2009-07-17 10:48 AM in reply to: #2291693 |
| Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week trigods - 2009-07-17 10:30 AM The truth is this- folks should already know the answers to these questions themselves, but are trained that they need to get acceptance or an ok because of the fear factor. There are folks that should not do these types of things cuz they do them for the wrong reasons- the 'romantic' ideas of doing a race, moreso with the longer stuff, but its all relative and everyone has their mountain to climb. Are you doing this to tick something off your list? People judge against that but I dont see an issue with it personally. No, I am game for looking at something that is maybe a bit farther than you think possible and trying to reach it. I choose to prepare myself for it however because that is part of the fun of the process for me. I love to train, love the lifestyle and really am almost to the point where the race is secondary. There are a lot of great experiences out there other than races. But for some, its watercooler talk, or a tick off the list or trying to impress. Who cares? At the end of the day it comes down to this- are you responsible enough to accept the situation you have put yourself into on race day- when you are getting kicked in the head in the swim, when its hot as ballz on the run and your eyes are sinking into your skull due to dehydration and your quads are thumping and the tunnel vision starts to kick in, when your having a bad GI day and the crapfits hit. To some, that is a nightmare. To others its their thing. I can look at the OPs training and say hey, thats probably not the way i would do it. But if the OP is going to accept that it will be a long day (and not pull the DNF the run stuff), thats cool. The OP might just learn something about him/herself. But if there are thoughts of 'hey, look at me, i can do a HIM undertrained' and isnt ready for The Suck, then they are better off staying home. And that applies to anyone, any distance that ever asks these kinds of questions. How does it go? Whether you think you can or you cannot, you are probably right? So why ask the masses?jszat - 2009-07-17 10:16 AM Curious as to why you are considering it when you are nowhere close to trained for it? Its a dumb idea. I am not a crusher of dumb ideas and heck, I have even gone with a few of my own, but I dont see the upside unless you want to tick off a HIM or burn some cash or are just bored. Maybe go train a bit instead for next year? Do a longer ride or run for free? Dunno. Because that is what people do here on BT, post a question about doing a race that they are not trained for and then have a bunch of people who have never done the distance tell them to "go for it" and "prove the nay-sayers wrong"; even though they know themselves they need to wait. They let "beginners" tell them to do a race or not...
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| 2009-07-17 11:01 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Pro 5011 Twin Cities | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Why on god's green earth would you do that? Really? What is the purpose? ETA: I mean, the vast majority of us have a lot of things that we COULD do...like I COULD go jump in with a RAGBRAI team and ride across the state. I COULD finish a marathon. I COULD sign up for a half IM and muddle through it. I COULD sign up for a two mile OW swim. Barring freak accidents, I probably wouldn't DIE in any of them, but why would I want to do something half-assed and undertrained? That seems to be the "in thing" these days--do it to do it to say you've done it, performance be damned. I just don't get it. I don't have the desire to go out and do something to cross it off my tick sheet. Edited by mmrocker13 2009-07-17 11:08 AM |
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| Pro 5011 Twin Cities | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Turtleman is still open though, BTW... you know, in case you still want to get a normal distance race or two in... ;-) |
| 2009-07-17 11:10 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Aces, haven't read all the responses, but why would you want to go into a HIM underprepared (and not just undertrained)? |
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| 2009-07-17 11:20 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Expert 936 Salisbury | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week If you have the extra cash I'd say do it as an 1) Aqua Bike, 2) Aqua Bike + 6.2 mile run, or 3) Aqua Bike + 13.1 walkathon. I see no shame regardless but especially if it's planned. I'd probably do 3 to get the cool medal |
| 2009-07-18 1:07 AM in reply to: #2291506 |
| Member 603 Chicago | Subject: RE: Talk me out of this (or into it) -- HIM in a week Edited by Thomasski 2009-07-18 1:37 AM |
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