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2009-09-03 6:11 PM |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: Tri BikeThought I'd start with my locals and get some feedback here. I've got a road bike with great gearing for climbs (12-27, compact crank). I have bars attached and have worked on the fit several times with my bike guy. It's much more comfortable in the aero position now, but riding anywhere other than the bars lately on some of the century rides seems to give me numbness in my hands and tight hamstrings. This would be fab, except that I ride such hilly courses, I have to change positions often. I'm considering taking the bars off and getting refit, but I think I'll miss the additional position available with the bars. I'm trying to figure out what the best option is going to be, especially prior to Ironman training starting up in January (CdA in June). Am I trying too hard to make my road bike fit both positions? Should I look at a tri bike and learn to ride aero more often? Am I being crazy and I just need to keep working on the fit? Edited by atlrunnergirl 2009-09-03 6:11 PM |
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2009-09-03 7:32 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 1404![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Tri BikeYou are way over thinking this whole thing, and seemingly trying to squeeze water from a rock. If it's affordable, get fit for a try bike, find a comfortable position that you can get used to, and get the tri bike. Have both. At IM Lou this past weekend, 8 out of every 10 bikes was a tri bike. In triathlon, you really should have a tri bike, no matter what you have been told. |
2009-09-03 8:37 PM in reply to: #2388504 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeHehe, yah, I do want a new toy... |
2009-09-04 8:22 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
Veteran 749![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI was in the same position a few years ago with a road bike as a tri bike and finally decided that a tri bike would be justified as I was doing tris for a few years. It is great having a bike for tris and a road bike that I don't have to swap wheels/position etc.. on I say go for it since you are IM training it will be a good investment and you will feel more with the community when you are riding your new tri bike! Just break it to cupcake real easy like so her feelings don't get hurt!! Also this may help with your hamstrings. I used to run a real wide saddle 155 and loved it but after a year or so I started having hamstring issues, tightness ,pulling cramping. Wasn't sure what to do I thought it out and found I put wide saddles on all my bikes and started getting discomfort so I put narrow 133 back on and the problem went away over time. Haven't had any trouble for 8 months now. Not sure if this will help but it worked for me. Good luck, John. |
2009-09-04 10:58 AM in reply to: #2389157 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeHi John - thanks for the feedback, that does help! |
2009-09-04 11:43 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 2021![]() Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeAs stated, it would be best to get a tri-bike. Get the tri-bike and being aero should be comfortable, then learn how to climb on it. IMHO, you can climb just as fast on a tri-bike vs a road bike. It just takes practice. The numbness in the hands is caused by pressure on a nerve in the hand (can't remember the name of the nerve right now) Try getting a pair of gloves, and that should solve that issue. Of course, if you get the tri-bike that will also solve that issue, and you will not need gloves. |
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2009-09-04 12:21 PM in reply to: #2389780 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI wear gloves now, I have a feeling I'm compressing the ulner nerve (I think that's it) when I place my hands palm side down on the aero pads while climbing or when I'm on the hoods (this happens less here because I can rotate my hands a bit to be on the outside of the hand and not compressing the nerve). I didn't have this problem prior to adjusting the bars, so I'm thinking that might be the problem now. I'm getting away from the comfortable road fit that I had because I'm trying to make the bars work for me. |
2009-09-04 12:25 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 2021![]() Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeSounds like you have the issue nailed down, and trying to get too much out of the road bike. I used to have the same issue on my road bike, and since changing to a tri-bike never had the issue again. |
2009-09-04 1:29 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 1730![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeNot to high jacc the tread...but I think you can do up to a HIM on a road bike as a road bike just fine. I think it is all in your perspective. I run in the low 20s during the races and it is just fine. The engine is more important than the bike up to a certain fitness level. A tri bike will not make you faster. Doing miles will make you faster. I see people pour money in to equipment that will not help them one bit at the fitness level that they are at. Don't know if this is urban ledgend or not, but I remember reading a few years ago that the Areo position does not materially help you unless you are traveling at rates above 20 miles an hour. If true, maybe get the engine up to that running speed and then spend the big bucks on a bike that gets you over the top. I know some will jump in on the different angles you push at on a tri bike and it is better for running after wards. Point taken. I will stand on the fact that at least OLY and below, that is a moot point. HIM and above, I will not argue. |
2009-09-04 6:59 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Veteran 749![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI agree 1/2 and up for the tri bike. That is when I bought mine. John. |
2009-09-05 5:28 AM in reply to: #2390074 |
Elite 3658![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Tri Bikethecaptin - 2009-09-04 2:29 PM Don't know if this is urban ledgend or not, but I remember reading a few years ago that the Areo position does not materially help you unless you are traveling at rates above 20 miles an hour. That's not really true. A good aero position will save more time for a cyclist averaging 17 mph vs. 22 mph because the slower cyclist is out on the course longer. Both cyclists will be faster in aero btw. I also look at the tri bike vs road bike thing a little differently. I assume we are talking PR's and not podioum spots btw. In a sprint every second counts and you need to shave them everywhere you can, but in an IM you want to be fast and comfortable. It's hard to run a marathon with an achy back. I'm more comfortable on my tri bike so it's a no brainer for me, but there are plenty of people who are more comfortable on a road bike. For Sarah (the OP) I would look into a tri bike. |
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2009-09-05 7:35 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 1730![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI was referring to PRs. I should clarify my point some. If you have a road bike and looking to throw down for a nice tri bike, I think your conditioning should play a role in the decision. If you ride at 17 mph and have $3K in a Zipp wheel set, I would still say there are more economical ways to get the desired PR. The seconds you gain with a tri bike pail to the time gained by training the engine up to 18 or 19. You would get more bang for the buck by hiring a coach to bring the engine to it's max and banking the rest. If money is no object, get the tricked out tri bike by all means just don't expect a big return from the clock. My point is folks should not feel pressure to buy a tri bike because they look around and everyone is on a tri bike. You can be successful and reach PRs on a road bike (and riding it as a road bike). Of course, this assumes you already have a road bike. If I was upgrading my road bike due to it being done / old / worn out, I would look to switch to a tri bike. Also, I am in no way referring any of this to atlrunnergirl. As I said, I was high jacking the posting (and showing my roadie roots). |
2009-09-05 8:04 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
Elite 3658![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeYou are right. The bike, or any fancy equiptment, only helps a little. The big gains are in training more. MOP's getting fance tri bikes is very similar to MOP's getting speed suits so they can look cool before the swim start. |
2009-09-05 12:26 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 1730![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeHey, hey...I resemble that remark...LOL. At least I get out of the water FOP (and looking cool in my borrowed speed suit) even if I end up MOP! |
2009-09-05 3:31 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 1404![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI do want a speed suit, and race wheels.. and probably an aero helmet too. sometimes thinking fast is being fast. |
2009-09-06 9:05 AM in reply to: #2391507 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeIn my case, I'm looking for a tri bike strictly for the comfort factor, not to make me faster. But I'm also willing to lose 10 lbs before I look to lighten my bike |
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2009-09-06 3:58 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Veteran 383![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The ATL | Subject: RE: Tri BikeSorry for the hijak here but it seems like a decent place for this question... My husband and I debate about this topic and this may be somewhat OT...but I find my road bike with aerobars awkward as all hell. For sprints I'm not even putting them on b/c I am comfortable riding in the drops and I'll add the conehead helmet for some seconds-savings. I've used the bars quite a few times but they just feel awkward (prob b/c I've been doing road racing for a year....) Anyway.... few questions. Those of you who have done road bike/aero bars then tri bike..did the tri bike feel less awkward? Also, I'd never want to give up my regular group rides and would also never show up with a tri bike to them. For those of you with both road and TT bikes, do you split time between them or ride the TT bike almost exclusively? Again, sorry for the slight hijack.. |
2009-09-06 6:33 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Veteran 749![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI did the road bike converted for 2 years, forward seatpost aero bars, shifters on barends and that works fine for what it is But it is not as stable as a tri bike at speed. I was comfy on it but when you went downhill at 30 or more you were on the cowhorns as it was twitchy and also when you were really putting the power to the pedals the bike liked to shimmy. This is expected since you are throwing the geometry out the window. Bought my tri bike and they are Way more stable at speed 30 plus on the aero bars solid as a rock. The geometry is different and both work well for what they are designed for. I split my time between them pretty evenly and if the group ride is small I will take the tri bike as I like riding it more but in a large pack take the road bike as you won't be able to get in the aerobars as much. And they are not meant to ride on the cowhorns and it makes for an uncomfortable ride if you must be up on them for a long time. I also have a compact crank and a 12-27 cassette and normally climb in the aerobars as fast or faster than most roadies.Hope this makes sense, John. |
2009-09-06 9:00 PM in reply to: #2392572 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeHijack away, this is interesting stuff! I went and looked at some bikes today, and have a few that I'm considering. I want to go to All3, but I remember a conversation around here once that to look at anything there, you pretty much have to pay for a fitting? |
2009-09-08 6:38 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
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2009-09-08 8:07 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
The Original 7834![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Tri BikeI finally bite the bullet and got a tri bike- after doing tri's on my road bike for 2.5 seasons with clip ons. For one though my bike was too big and that was a huge part of my problem. I never felt good in aero position and for the most part I never rode in aero because it was too darn uncomfortable. I went to all3 the other weekend and got fitted and got a tri bike- I've only ridden it twice so far, but I really LOVE it. I can't believe the difference between a road and tri bike. I don't know now if I'll ever want to ride my road bike again- maybe if it actually fit me better I might. But as of now, it's still too big after making several modifications to it and putting the money into making it fit and I'm basically over it. I've found that over the years of trying to make my road bike into a tri bike I should have just gotten a tri bike a long time ago because no matter how much I tried, it was still uncomfortable. So from my experience, I would say if you're thinking about it and have the money, go for a tri bike |
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2009-09-08 8:52 AM in reply to: #2388421 |
Master 1730![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri BikeIt seems that everything I have read indicates trying to make a road bike into a TT bike does not really work...better to just jump in and get a tri bike or ride the road bike as a road bike. |
2009-09-08 4:30 PM in reply to: #2394086 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri Bikestefanier - 2009-09-08 6:38 AM Sarah What bikes are you looking at? Here's my current list, feel free to weigh in anyone! I'm looking to be less than 3K since I'll need new pedals, etc... I'm really looking for the equivalent in features to my road bike - Carbon, Ultegra components, Comfort, etc...Some of these may offer more than I really need, so this is just the initial pass. - Cannondale Slice 4 - haven't seen this in person and the shop has no idea when they'll be available - Orbea Ora TLE, TLT, DA - I haven't spent as much time comparing various models, I did ride an Ora at Atlanta Cycling, and it was pretty comfortable. - Felt B12 - just saw this in person. It's v. v. nice. - Kuota K-Factor - just for the components alone, at this price point, I'm considering it, though I've only seen one, haven't actually been on one yet - Others that I like - Kestral, Blue (Triad), QR, GURU (no dealers in GA) and Wilier (I think they are gorgeous bikes).
Edited by atlrunnergirl 2009-09-08 4:30 PM |
2009-09-08 4:31 PM in reply to: #2394181 |
Expert 697![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Tri Bikerunnergirl - 2009-09-08 8:07 AM I finally bite the bullet and got a tri bike- after doing tri's on my road bike for 2.5 seasons with clip ons. For one though my bike was too big and that was a huge part of my problem. I never felt good in aero position and for the most part I never rode in aero because it was too darn uncomfortable. I went to all3 the other weekend and got fitted and got a tri bike- I've only ridden it twice so far, but I really LOVE it. I can't believe the difference between a road and tri bike. I don't know now if I'll ever want to ride my road bike again- maybe if it actually fit me better I might. But as of now, it's still too big after making several modifications to it and putting the money into making it fit and I'm basically over it. I've found that over the years of trying to make my road bike into a tri bike I should have just gotten a tri bike a long time ago because no matter how much I tried, it was still uncomfortable. So from my experience, I would say if you're thinking about it and have the money, go for a tri bike Can I ask what you ended up with? |
2009-09-08 5:46 PM in reply to: #2388421 |
Veteran 749![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Tri BikeWhat no Cervelo? P2c is hard to beat. You are now at the fun part/ finding one/ you lucky girl!! John |
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