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2013-05-12 10:10 AM

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We want to install a zip line that goes from one tree to another tree over a creek.  The whole run would be 75-100yds, depending on the trees we choose for stopping and starting. We actually want to put one in from the back deck down to the pond--but that would be about 250yds, with some significant drop, so we've decided to try a smaller version first;)

Have any of you put one up? Things to consider? Companies with good gear?

 



2013-05-12 10:45 AM
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Make sure you let go at the end. That sounds so awesome. I wish you were my dad.
2013-05-12 10:48 AM
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All I know is don't fall into a river with flesh eating bacteria.
2013-05-12 1:24 PM
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Iowaman - 2013-05-12 10:45 AM Make sure you let go at the end. That sounds so awesome. I wish you were my dad.

Maybe your mom?  <---That's a pic of me with my husband ;)

We're both just big kids.  We take turns trying to talk each other out of stuff like this, which usually doesn't work.  Our kids don't really appreciate it yet.  My husband and I were both a little wild when we were younger, and we have agreed that it's better to have the house where the kids want to hang out than not. 

We're trying to proceed accordingly, and in the meantime it's fun for us :) It results in stuff like a rope swing in the kitchen, hidden rooms in the house, the ping-pong table displacing the DR table occasionally, a menagerie of animals, lots of fishing on weeknights, a fire-ring in the front yard, and, hopefully, a zip line (or two)!

2013-05-12 1:25 PM
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JoshR - 2013-05-12 10:48 AM All I know is don't fall into a river with flesh eating bacteria.

Thanks Josh ;P

2013-05-12 1:54 PM
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switch - 2013-05-12 1:24 PM

Iowaman - 2013-05-12 10:45 AM Make sure you let go at the end. That sounds so awesome. I wish you were my dad.

Maybe your mom? 

We're both just big kids.  We take turns trying to talk each other out of stuff like this, which usually doesn't work.  Our kids don't really appreciate it yet.  My husband and I were both a little wild when we were younger, and we have agreed that it's better to have the house where the kids want to hang out than not. 

We're trying to proceed accordingly, and in the meantime it's fun for us It results in stuff like a rope swing in the kitchen, hidden rooms in the house, the ping-pong table displacing the DR table occasionally, a menagerie of animals, lots of fishing on weeknights, a fire-ring in the front yard, and, hopefully, a zip line (or two)!

Wow! Even better. I love your guys adventurous side. I needs pics of the zip line when you guys are done with it. My 6 year old son keeps asking if we could do a zip line because he saw one on TV.



2013-05-12 2:20 PM
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A pizza oven? Now a zip line? Unlimited pork chops? Can I come over?
2013-05-12 2:23 PM
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I don't have personal experience setting one up, but my cousins did and they said it wasn't hard. The only thing is that you want it high enough for maximum "fun" factor, especially if there are larger people that may be trying it....they'll sag too far to the ground. 

Then, make sure its accessible with board steps on the tree or some kind of easy, but stable, ladder.  

That is what I noticed was wrong with my cousins set up.

2013-05-12 3:42 PM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2013-05-12 2:20 PM A pizza oven? Now a zip line? Unlimited pork chops? Can I come over?

Of course, but let me figure out how to get the zip line up first :)

2013-05-12 3:54 PM
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Comet - 2013-05-12 2:23 PM

I don't have personal experience setting one up, but my cousins did and they said it wasn't hard. The only thing is that you want it high enough for maximum "fun" factor, especially if there are larger people that may be trying it....they'll sag too far to the ground. 

Then, make sure its accessible with board steps on the tree or some kind of easy, but stable, ladder.  

That is what I noticed was wrong with my cousins set up.

That is good advice. 

We're going to kind of develop this area by the creek a bit.  It's just to the west of the pond, and I think will be a good option on blazing hot/sunny days--the kids like to dam build and creek stomp. Our current working plan is to put a treehouse on the starting side of the zip line, so that will require the board steps and some sort of starting platform.  I'll make sure we put it up high enough that a big dude could go across and not get dragged :)

How about any of the Marines?  Did you guys ever run zip lines?  My only real experience with zip lines was doing the ropes course at Quantico, but my experience there was limited.

2013-05-12 4:55 PM
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Not a Marine, was Army

We did something akin to this:

http://www.instructables.com/id/how-to-make-a-awesome-safe-zipline/

The side to side was steel cable and the zip line itself was 3/4" or 1" no-stretch rope. Still sagged with some of us, though. Hemp rope swiss seats and not that spiffy doodles harness the guy is talking about.





2013-05-12 6:29 PM
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DanielG - 2013-05-12 4:55 PM Not a Marine, was Army :) We did something akin to this: http://www.instructables.com/id/how-to-make-a-awesome-safe-zipline/The side to side was steel cable and the zip line itself was 3/4" or 1" no-stretch rope. Still sagged with some of us, though. Hemp rope swiss seats and not that spiffy doodles harness the guy is talking about.

Thanks--that's an illustrative link.  We had been thinking two trees, but picking trees/geometry that would slow the ride at the end, but I like the three tree idea.  It greatly reduces the ditz-out-and-get-rocked factor;)  I had to google "hemp rope swiss seat" and one of the first images that came up was this:

I'm quite sure that's ^not a "swiss seat," but it did make me laugh.  You crazy army guys. Just who, exactly, are you sending down the zip line like that?

2013-05-12 6:38 PM
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-er- no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssmYruwGTzM

Yeah, two trees and you can very well end up having a face to bark encounter at high speeds.

2013-05-12 6:53 PM
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DanielG - 2013-05-12 6:38 PM -er- no. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssmYruwGTzMYeah, two trees and you can very well end up having a face to bark encounter at high speeds.

Nah, man, I knew that wasn't a "swiss seat" it was just hilarious that the bound and gagged photo came up in the search.  The video link you gave is great though.

We're planning on just doing the pully that you hold onto w/ a handle.  Is there a reason to not do that? The drop won't be more than 12 feet, and a large section of that is over a creek.

2013-05-12 6:59 PM
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DanielG - 2013-05-12 6:38 PM -er- no. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssmYruwGTzMYeah, two trees and you can very well end up having a face to bark encounter at high speeds.

Nah, man, I knew that wasn't a "swiss seat" it was just hilarious that the bound and gagged photo came up in the search.  The video link you gave is great though.

We're planning on just doing the pully that you hold onto w/ a handle.  Is there a reason to not do that? The drop won't be more than 12 feet, and a large section of that is over a creek.



People do it that way literally every day and there's not a thing wrong with it. People with not-so-good upper body strength might want a bit of support elsewhere and I've always been a belt, suspenders and staple gun around the waist kinda guy.

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switch - 2013-05-12 4:54 PM

How about any of the Marines?  Did you guys ever run zip lines?  

I wasn't a Marine, but we made fun of them in the Army. 

We used them (so fun!), but I never set them up. I'll ask my other half when he gets home though. He did that kind of high-speed stuff.



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We installed one for our son (including having to set concrete for the doorframe we built for the end) however long term maintenance keeping the line taught is a challenge....only thing we didn't anticipate...other than that has provided years of fun
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We had one growing up and the barn my horse is at has one now. If you put it over a blueberry patch expect some purple clothes. Doing a t at the bottom between two trees is good. Make sure you have a rope from the pulley to get it if it gets stuck.
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Moonrocket - 2013-05-12 10:34 PM We had one growing up and the barn my horse is at has one now. If you put it over a blueberry patch expect some purple clothes. Doing a t at the bottom between two trees is good. Make sure you have a rope from the pulley to get it if it gets stuck.

HA--our blueberries are far away from the purposed site, but we were thinking of planting some strawberries close by;)

This seems like it could be important info, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean.  Can you clarify a bit?

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I'd probably check with your insurance company as well. An injury to someone other than a family member may open you up to a non-covered situation and a potential game-changing lawsuit.
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RockTractor - 2013-05-13 8:02 AM I'd probably check with your insurance company as well. An injury to someone other than a family member may open you up to a non-covered situation and a potential game-changing lawsuit.

This is an excellent point. 

We have crazy insurance because of our non-profit (nature program for kids that involves other "high risk" activities like swimming, canoeing, climbing, caving, etc.), and that insurance covers activities on our property and others'. 



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switch - 2013-05-13 7:07 AM

RockTractor - 2013-05-13 8:02 AM I'd probably check with your insurance company as well. An injury to someone other than a family member may open you up to a non-covered situation and a potential game-changing lawsuit.

This is an excellent point. 

We have crazy insurance because of our non-profit (nature program for kids that involves other "high risk" activities like swimming, canoeing, climbing, caving, etc.), and that insurance covers activities on our property and others'. 



That's good to know - it's a base you definitely want covered.
Build away, it sounds like fun!
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Moonrocket - 2013-05-12 10:34 PM We had one growing up and the barn my horse is at has one now. If you put it over a blueberry patch expect some purple clothes. Doing a t at the bottom between two trees is good. Make sure you have a rope from the pulley to get it if it gets stuck.

HA--our blueberries are far away from the purposed site, but we were thinking of planting some strawberries close by

This seems like it could be important info, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean.  Can you clarify a bit?

Just have a rope dangling down from whatever handle you use (if it's fairly close to the ground- not over a ravine) so you can pull it from below if someone jumps off at the bottom and it catapults part way back up.  Or if someone gets stuck you can pull them to either side (tends to happen with smaller people esp if you get slack in your system.)

Have fun- I love zip lines!

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Call these guys.  Maybe they can help. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0pROzHY5M

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I've done a number of backyard ziplines both temporary and permanent and here is what I have learned.  With hold on styles someone always ends up getting hurt, plus you have to make them so low to the ground.  Use steel cable (5/16 is best), 1000 feet aint going to be cheap.  Slack line is far superior to tight line. Trial and error is best method testing  mounting heights and use of buckets filled sand or concrete saves skinned knees.  Slack is better because you get a steep take off for greater acceleration and an uphill final approach to slow and stop.  Petzel makes the best zipline double pulleys.  Harnesses allow for greater aerial free styling (and of course safety).  We use fall protection retractables for added safety on platforms.  Higher mounting allows us to pull up into the tree limbs and ladder or rapel down.  I could go on and on.  Any specific questions? I'm still wondering if jgaither got his going.
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