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2008-08-18 10:40 PM

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they look 12 to me!


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2008-08-18 11:03 PM
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I know! I thought that they were even younger than 12!
2008-08-18 11:30 PM
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I think the Chinese female swimmers eat the unworthy Chinese Female Gymnasts when they're not making the cut.
2008-08-19 6:38 AM
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what is hard to take is that there will be no investigation into the age matter by the IOC.
2008-08-19 6:39 AM
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Bripod - 2008-08-19 12:30 AM I think the Chinese female swimmers eat the unworthy Chinese Female Gymnasts when they're not making the cut.

LOL- just think how many they could eat if they were IM training!

2008-08-19 6:56 AM
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gleser - 2008-08-19 7:38 AM what is hard to take is that there will be no investigation into the age matter by the IOC.

 

The NBC commentators last night mentioned the IOC had "verified" that they are 16.  But how?  This country is specialized in faking things and in this case the faking is backed up by the gov't. 

 



2008-08-19 7:00 AM
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Bripod - 2008-08-19 12:30 AM I think the Chinese female swimmers eat the unworthy Chinese Female Gymnasts when they're not making the cut.

hee hee.  nice. 

2008-08-19 7:01 AM
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D.K. - 2008-08-19 7:56 AM

gleser - 2008-08-19 7:38 AM what is hard to take is that there will be no investigation into the age matter by the IOC.

The NBC commentators last night mentioned the IOC had "verified" that they are 16. But how? This country is specialized in faking things and in this case the faking is backed up by the gov't.

yup, if the govt produces passports or documentation saying they are 16, what can the IOC do?  It's unfortunate but that's the way it is. 

2008-08-19 7:21 AM
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newleaf - 2008-08-19 8:01 AM
D.K. - 2008-08-19 7:56 AM

gleser - 2008-08-19 7:38 AM what is hard to take is that there will be no investigation into the age matter by the IOC.

The NBC commentators last night mentioned the IOC had "verified" that they are 16. But how? This country is specialized in faking things and in this case the faking is backed up by the gov't.

yup, if the govt produces passports or documentation saying they are 16, what can the IOC do?  It's unfortunate but that's the way it is. 

Yes very annoying.  I am glad I live in the U.S. coz I can't shut up about this stuffs. I still follow Hong Kong (where I grew up) news very closely.  You have no idea how many times HK people had busted the Mainland Chinese - not necessarily involving the gov't - for faking this and cheating on that. 

I have mixed emotion about this whole thing.  I like to see my country winning, but winning in such a way bothers me big times.  I am not at all surprised about the fake fireworks and lip-syncing at the opening.  But flat out lying and insisting on that lies are truth to get gold is another level of low. 

2008-08-19 7:40 AM
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newleaf - 2008-08-19 8:01 AM
D.K. - 2008-08-19 7:56 AM

gleser - 2008-08-19 7:38 AM what is hard to take is that there will be no investigation into the age matter by the IOC.

The NBC commentators last night mentioned the IOC had "verified" that they are 16. But how? This country is specialized in faking things and in this case the faking is backed up by the gov't.

 

yup, if the govt produces passports or documentation saying they are 16, what can the IOC do?  It's unfortunate but that's the way it is. 

Exactly. What are they supposed to do? Cut off their legs and count the rings? Cause I don't think there's a blood test for age.

2008-08-19 7:57 AM
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I think they're still losing their baby teeth.  Seriously.

Andi



2008-08-19 8:42 AM
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Having said all that, I still get pretty annoyed when the NBC commentator (particularly that guy who sounded like Juno's dad) kept saying "does she look 16 to you?" So I finally had it and turned the TV off.

Also remember these kids are subject very harsh training and dieting regiment. Simply, they don't get to eat.

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2008-08-19 8:56 AM
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I 've see Korean and Japanese gymnasts on TV and live before, they looked their age.  The Chinese girls have no  indication of any hips or breast development that comes naturally with a puberty.  My  opinion on the matter is they are ether on developement delay supplements (beleive me it exists) or they are definitely very young.

 

2008-08-19 8:59 AM
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Z - 2008-08-19 9:56 AM

I 've see Korean and Japanese gymnasts on TV and live before, they looked their age.  The Chinese girls have no  indication of any hips or breast development that comes naturally with a puberty.  My  opinion on the matter is they are ether on developement delay supplements (beleive me it exists) or they are definitely very young.

 

I'd say both restricted diet/supplements and age adjustment.  I was over 5 ft and over 100 lb by the age of 12. 

Although I still say they have good skill. 

 

2008-08-19 9:03 AM
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/14/underage.gymnasts/index.html?cnn=yes

It's pretty obviously they many of them are under 16.  This is not the first thing China has lied about.

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2008-08-19 9:04 AM
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D.K. - 2008-08-19 9:59 AM
Z - 2008-08-19 9:56 AM

I 've see Korean and Japanese gymnasts on TV and live before, they looked their age. The Chinese girls have no indication of any hips or breast development that comes naturally with a puberty. My opinion on the matter is they are ether on developement delay supplements (beleive me it exists) or they are definitely very young.

 

I'd say both restricted diet/supplements and age adjustment. I was over 5 ft and over 100 lb by the age of 12.

Although I still say they have good skill.

 

Oh, skills are definitely there! 



2008-08-19 9:05 AM
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I believe one girl is 13 and another 14.

Read about their ages on yahoo sports. The national paper of China had articles mentioning their names and ages as new young stars....The articles from the paper have sense been removed now that people found the links.

2008-08-19 9:08 AM
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Denise2003 - 2008-08-19 9:42 AM Also remember these kids are subject very harsh training and dieting regiment. Simply, they don't get to eat.

I'm not sure I buy that. I'm sure they have a closely-monitored diet, but the fact that they train hard for hours every day would indicate that they probably actually eat a lot. If they didn't, they wouldn't be able to train, much less compete at the level they do.

No way those girs are malnourished.

2008-08-19 9:09 AM
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2008-08-19 9:15 AM
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Rumors has it that the GENERAL CHINESE POPULATION is also questioning the real age of the girls.  According to "documents" they are all born on Jan 1 or Oct 1.  Oct 1 being the National day of Mainland China. 

2008-08-19 9:42 AM
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Lets see - a history of doping and cheating in sports, no concern over copyright infringement in the business world, a horrific human rights record....oh, and they want to look good....hmmm..I think they are not above placing underage gymnasts in the games.....they have little conscious or regard for what the rest of the world thinks...


2008-08-19 12:24 PM
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Yep, despite how nice the country looks and appears on TV (and it is a show) that governement is accustomed to getting what they want and the ends justify the means.  There is no doubt in my mind that they have taken this illegal advantage knowing that there would be no way for anybody to prove these ages wrong.
2008-08-19 12:46 PM
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it's really sad.  really sad.  not just because those girls are being used by their country so wrongly, but for the women from other countries who waited patiently for their turn to compete.  how many women were 15 in 2004 and might have had a chance to place but had to wait until 2008 and risk 4 years of injuries in order to meet the qualification of being 16 or older.  the IOC and FIG should be ashamed of themselves for letting this go unchecked just to appease the chinese government.  i hope this gets blown wide open and something that can't be refuted (what, i don't know!) is put into the open so it can't be ignored.
2008-08-19 2:23 PM
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They take the girls away from their families at age 3.  They can visit their parents once a year. They train the girls to such a degree that they don't mature properly. And this is for the girls that do well.

This is all in the name of winning Olympic gold medals. The NBC commentators were saying that one girl got to see the house the government gave her family for the first time last month. I think she fell off the apparatus that night.  I wonder if they still live in that house.

2008-08-19 3:35 PM
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Just to keep things in perspective, the idea of young gymnasts suffering their training isn't exclusive to China.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/sections/news/news/article_346130.php

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