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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So I'll rely on the intelligent folks on BT for this. I will admit to leaning left but it is nice to read some of the post and good responses from those that don't agree with me on politics. I'm reading on Facebook (probably my first mistake) of all the people that don't like that Obama has won are going to move out of the US. Really, where would they move? I admit to joking about moving if Romney were to win and going to Canada or Denmark. That makes at least a little sense since those are more socialist countries (because you know Obama is a socialist). But if I'm not mistaken Obama would probably be considered right wing in many countries. So, if you are not happy with the election and want to get out of the USA where do you go where people are more in line with your beliefs? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-11-06 11:09 PM The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) Dang. That sounds like utopia. Except for the guns! I assume I'm not invited. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-11-06 11:09 PM The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) I'm good with the island, gay marriage and weed thing but not so much the gun thing. Do you allow visitors for the aforementioned weed? Do we need a special Visa for visiting? |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 6:09 AM The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) Otherwise known as Switzerland... |
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![]() | ![]() "You may all go to he11 and I will go to Texas..."-Davey Crockett I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. Even TriRSquaredistan would be liberal in the pure sense of the word (legal pot and gay marriage). The US is only going to move farther left if you look at the electorate that includes more 18-34 year olds voting left than right. And more 55 and ups (who voted right in this election) dying off. Texans joke about secession, but there's no frontier on earth to run away to in the same way the pilgrims ran to Massachussetts to escape religious persecution. Secession would be the only way to have a conservative country appear on earth. We'd be able to run to the Middle East but we don't like them because their path to God is not our path to God. And because Secession is never going to happen, to answer your question there's nowhere to run from liberalism. So I guess we'll have to retreat to our God guns and religion. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() blueyedbikergirl - 2012-11-07 12:19 AM TriRSquared - 2012-11-06 11:09 PM The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) I'm good with the island, gay marriage and weed thing but not so much the gun thing. Do you allow visitors for the aforementioned weed? Do we need a special Visa for visiting? Sorry. The guns are non-negotiable. An armed society is a polite society. Yes a Visa with a very large credit limit... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM "You may all go to he11 and I will go to Texas..."-Davey Crockett I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. Even TriRSquaredistan would be liberal in the pure sense of the word (legal pot and gay marriage). The US is only going to move farther left if you look at the electorate that includes more 18-34 year olds voting left than right. And more 55 and ups (who voted right in this election) dying off. Texans joke about secession, but there's no frontier on earth to run away to in the same way the pilgrims ran to Massachussetts to escape religious persecution. Secession would be the only way to have a conservative country appear on earth. We'd be able to run to the Middle East but we don't like them because their path to God is not our path to God. And because Secession is never going to happen, to answer your question there's nowhere to run from liberalism. So I guess we'll have to retreat to our God guns and religion. I find your posting to be quite funny - PA is one of the (demographically) oldest and whitest states as a whole (I think we are second to Florida in terms of older residents, and we are certainly less diverse than them); your last line is what Obama said at the last election (though if you look at the context, in comparison to Romney's "47%" comment, he meant that this means his campaigners needed to work harder to convince them that he was the right choice, not that he was going to write them off a la "I'm not going to worry about those people"). But PA went for Obama by an over 5% margin |
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![]() | ![]() But if you look at the county breakdown, the older whites voted heavily for Romney. It was the black Philly vote that drove the election in PA. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 8:19 AM But if you look at the county breakdown, the older whites voted heavily for Romney. It was the black Philly vote that drove the election in PA. That is a simplistic response. Philly has always been Democratic, both black and white. We have one of the largest concentrations of universities in the country and a thriving urban center, all of which are going to encourage liberal voting. My ward is racially diverse but predominately upper middle class (average home price $539,000) and we were 84.59% Obama. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2012-11-06 9:17 PM TriRSquared - 2012-11-06 11:09 PM Dang. That sounds like utopia. Except for the guns! I assume I'm not invited.The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) Sounds like my utopia. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM "You may all go to he11 and I will go to Texas..."-Davey Crockett I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. Even TriRSquaredistan would be liberal in the pure sense of the word (legal pot and gay marriage). The US is only going to move farther left if you look at the electorate that includes more 18-34 year olds voting left than right. And more 55 and ups (who voted right in this election) dying off. Texans joke about secession, but there's no frontier on earth to run away to in the same way the pilgrims ran to Massachussetts to escape religious persecution. Secession would be the only way to have a conservative country appear on earth. We'd be able to run to the Middle East but we don't like them because their path to God is not our path to God. And because Secession is never going to happen, to answer your question there's nowhere to run from liberalism. So I guess we'll have to retreat to our God guns and religion. Old quote a friend of mine from Scotland told me: If you are not liberal when you are young you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you are older you have no brain. |
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Iron Donkey![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 7:04 AM blueyedbikergirl - 2012-11-07 12:19 AM TriRSquared - 2012-11-06 11:09 PM The People's Republic of TriRSquared-istan. We have an island, pot is legal, gay marriage is OK, we have a balanced budget, and everyone is required to have a fully automatic weapon. (PS: we shoot illegal aliens.. so stay out) I'm good with the island, gay marriage and weed thing but not so much the gun thing. Do you allow visitors for the aforementioned weed? Do we need a special Visa for visiting? Sorry. The guns are non-negotiable. An armed society is a polite society. ... And in the 1800's, it worked that well, too. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() burhed - 2012-11-06 8:59 PM So, if you are not happy with the election and want to get out of the USA where do you go where people are more in line with your beliefs? Central/South America? If your Catholic. Certain parts of Southeast Asia - not Indonesia, wrong God - not Vietnam or Thailand, too socialist - maybe Cambodia and probably Myanmar, if you can deal with being surrounded by Buddhists. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() trinnas - 2012-11-07 8:01 AM GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM "You may all go to he11 and I will go to Texas..."-Davey Crockett I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. Even TriRSquaredistan would be liberal in the pure sense of the word (legal pot and gay marriage). The US is only going to move farther left if you look at the electorate that includes more 18-34 year olds voting left than right. And more 55 and ups (who voted right in this election) dying off. Texans joke about secession, but there's no frontier on earth to run away to in the same way the pilgrims ran to Massachussetts to escape religious persecution. Secession would be the only way to have a conservative country appear on earth. We'd be able to run to the Middle East but we don't like them because their path to God is not our path to God. And because Secession is never going to happen, to answer your question there's nowhere to run from liberalism. So I guess we'll have to retreat to our God guns and religion. Old quote a friend of mine from Scotland told me: If you are not liberal when you are young you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you are older you have no brain. That is a quote from Sir Winston. Miss the ol' sot.... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MadMathemagician - 2012-11-07 9:22 AM trinnas - 2012-11-07 8:01 AM GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM "You may all go to he11 and I will go to Texas..."-Davey Crockett I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. Even TriRSquaredistan would be liberal in the pure sense of the word (legal pot and gay marriage). The US is only going to move farther left if you look at the electorate that includes more 18-34 year olds voting left than right. And more 55 and ups (who voted right in this election) dying off. Texans joke about secession, but there's no frontier on earth to run away to in the same way the pilgrims ran to Massachussetts to escape religious persecution. Secession would be the only way to have a conservative country appear on earth. We'd be able to run to the Middle East but we don't like them because their path to God is not our path to God. And because Secession is never going to happen, to answer your question there's nowhere to run from liberalism. So I guess we'll have to retreat to our God guns and religion. Old quote a friend of mine from Scotland told me: If you are not liberal when you are young you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you are older you have no brain. That is a quote from Sir Winston. Miss the ol' sot.... Thanks, I always wondered where it came from just too lazy to look it up. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Republicans who are distraught with a second Obama term may choose to pull-up stakes and move somewhere that better aligns with their strict Republican idielogical requirements. this new land:
After a quick search I found this Republican Utopia! It fits all the requirements and the weather is wonderfully warm throughout the year. GOP'ers - go ahead and book you plane ticket to sunny Mogadishu, Somalia!
burhed - 2012-11-06 11:59 PM So I'll rely on the intelligent folks on BT for this. I will admit to leaning left but it is nice to read some of the post and good responses from those that don't agree with me on politics. I'm reading on Facebook (probably my first mistake) of all the people that don't like that Obama has won are going to move out of the US. Really, where would they move? I admit to joking about moving if Romney were to win and going to Canada or Denmark. That makes at least a little sense since those are more socialist countries (because you know Obama is a socialist). But if I'm not mistaken Obama would probably be considered right wing in many countries. So, if you are not happy with the election and want to get out of the USA where do you go where people are more in line with your beliefs? |
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![]() | ![]() Brian-That is a simplistic response. What can I say, I'm a simple guy... Fact is that the best way to describe the electorate in 30 states is that the rural voters who all voted conservative are being governed by people in urban areas who have completely opposite viewpoints on social and fiscal issues. That includes Pennsylvania. Minority votes carried that state according to CNN last night. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() if you are for tighter immigration constraints, is it hypocritical to expect some other country to just let you go there and take their jobs from their citizens? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mgalanter - 2012-11-07 9:33 AM Republicans who are distraught with a second Obama term may choose to pull-up stakes and move somewhere that better aligns with their strict Republican idielogical requirements. this new land:
After a quick search I found this Republican Utopia! It fits all the requirements and the weather is wonderfully warm throughout the year. GOP'ers - go ahead and book you plane ticket to sunny Mogadishu, Somalia! Straw man is made of straw. |
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![]() | ![]() mgalanter - 2012-11-07 9:33 AM Hush up Canada.Republicans who are distraught with a second Obama term may choose to pull-up stakes and move somewhere that better aligns with their strict Republican idielogical requirements. this new land:
After a quick search I found this Republican Utopia! It fits all the requirements and the weather is wonderfully warm throughout the year. GOP'ers - go ahead and book you plane ticket to sunny Mogadishu, Somalia!
burhed - 2012-11-06 11:59 PM So I'll rely on the intelligent folks on BT for this. I will admit to leaning left but it is nice to read some of the post and good responses from those that don't agree with me on politics. I'm reading on Facebook (probably my first mistake) of all the people that don't like that Obama has won are going to move out of the US. Really, where would they move? I admit to joking about moving if Romney were to win and going to Canada or Denmark. That makes at least a little sense since those are more socialist countries (because you know Obama is a socialist). But if I'm not mistaken Obama would probably be considered right wing in many countries. So, if you are not happy with the election and want to get out of the USA where do you go where people are more in line with your beliefs? or we'll take you over with our God, guns and religion... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. . Or he was wearing Canadian colors or he simply did not care to connect shirt color to the election. I occasionaly wear green but I'm neither a 'Green Party' supporter not Irish. GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. You need to get out more. Socially the USA is a hippy-dippy liberal land compared to Saudi Arabia and most of the Arab Middle-East, South Asia (Afghan, India, Paki, Bangla), most of Latin America, etc. Even China is more socially conservative. Economically the US is virtual commie state compared to some of the SE Asian economies like Hong Kong & Singapore, or most of the Arab economies (UAE, Quatar, etc.)
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I must admit, when I first came across the idea of moving to Canada if the healthcare bill passed, my head almost exploded from the cognitive dissonance. |
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![]() | ![]() mgalanter - 2012-11-07 9:42 AM GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM I was thinking the same thing as the OP as I was talking to a Canadian who unknowingly wore a red shirt yesterday thinking he was supporting Obama. . Or he was wearing Canadian colors or he simply did not care to connect shirt color to the election. I occasionaly wear green but I'm neither a 'Green Party' supporter not Irish. GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 4:00 AM The US is the last remaining "Conservative" bastion on Earth. You need to get out more. Socially the USA is a hippy-dippy liberal land compared to Saudi Arabia and most of the Arab Middle-East, South Asia (Afghan, India, Paki, Bangla), most of Latin America, etc. Even China is more socially conservative. Economically the US is virtual commie state compared to some of the SE Asian economies like Hong Kong & Singapore, or most of the Arab economies (UAE, Quatar, etc.)
Thanks for the suggestion, but 11 months (4 in 2004 and 7 in 2006-2007) was plenty of time in the ME for me. Also the fact that I grew up in Central America helps. And lived in Europe for some time. I think it's safe to say I've gotten around plenty. That's why I would prefer that the US didn't end up like every other country. As a citizen of a country that piggybacks off of our Defense Spending, I would think you would want a strong US as well. |
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