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2009-07-29 12:42 PM

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Subject: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump

2009-07-29 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
really depends. On a long distance ride-both. Racing HIM/IM- both. Short ride close to home, CO2. Group ride, as long as someone has a frame pump I'm happy just carrying CO2. Generally I want the 'security blanket' feeling of a frame pump knowing that its really a simple apparatus that has no finite amount of air
2009-07-29 12:49 PM
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2009-07-29 12:55 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
Both.

Co2 for full flats with 2 or 3 extra, just in case of multiple flats or if I screw the 1st one up.

The pump is the backup to the backup to the backup.  Also, if I end up using a patch and have a slow leak, the pump is better than Co2.  IMO, it doesnt add that much weight to the bike or be an aerodynamic hindrance - at least, nothing that I notice. 

It's probably overkill, but (my philosophy is) it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
2009-07-29 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
ratherbesnowboarding - 2009-07-29 1:55 PM Both.

Co2 for full flats with 2 or 3 extra, just in case of multiple flats or if I screw the 1st one up.

The pump is the backup to the backup to the backup.  Also, if I end up using a patch and have a slow leak, the pump is better than Co2.  IMO, it doesnt add that much weight to the bike or be an aerodynamic hindrance - at least, nothing that I notice. 

It's probably overkill, but (my philosophy is) it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.


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I'm a both person after having issues once on a hilly century out of CO2 cartridges. I mostly ride alone and want to be prepared.
2009-07-29 1:08 PM
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wgraves7582 - 2009-07-29 12:49 PM

Combo so you can have a backup plan if CO2 fails or you run out of catridges.

Didn't leave that option open but my sister just picked a nice carbon (why I don't know) one up from REI.

x2. I have a combo also. The combo is also nice becuase you can pump a little bit of pressure before you hit the co2--just to make sure everything is right and you don't have any pinch points.

2009-07-29 1:13 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
Both.  CO2 w/ 2 cartridges and a frame pump (Road Morph). 
On one training ride I came across a MTBer who flatted and did not have a tube, patch, or pump. I stopped and offered up a patch and CO2. Later on the same ride I double flatted (glass) and needed the remaining CO2 and frame pump to get home.  So much for good Karma.......

Edit for spelling


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2009-07-29 1:14 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump

I always thought of frame pumps as being the horse buggy whip of inflation ... if you can use a CO2 cartridge then why wrestle with a frame pump that cannot inflate a tire as well? And not to be a weight weenie but frame pumps are just extra weight that also arguably interferes with the aerodynamics of your bike.
 
Two 16 gram CO2 cartridges and a chuck ought to be enough to get you through a ride. (The second is in case there is problems getting the first properly fitted on your tube valve and/or have another flat during your ride.)

2009-07-29 1:18 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
Both for me too, but not a frame pump, I have a tiny hand pump that fits it my seat bag. It's only about 6 inches long.
2009-07-29 1:22 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
For training a CO2 and a cell phone... thats all i need.
For races... still working on that, haven't done enough to have a routine.
2009-07-29 1:22 PM
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until the last couple of weeks when I commute to work, I"ve always just had a couple of C02 cartridges,,, I've only had to change a flat out on the road (non-race) twice in the last couple of years..   I did get a small hand pump to toss in my backpack for going to work though...

2009-07-29 1:25 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
Race - CO2

Training - pump
2009-07-29 1:29 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
Both. Frame pump is flawless but a PITA. CO2 is easier and the first choice, but at least you know you have a second option.
2009-07-29 1:30 PM
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2009-07-29 1:34 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
wgraves7582 - 2009-07-29 1:49 PM

Combo so you can have a backup plan if CO2 fails or you run out of catridges.

Didn't leave that option open but my sister just picked a nice carbon (why I don't know) one up from REI.



X2.... That's what I carry. This is the one I have: Innovations Second Wind

Granted.... it would probably take a reeeaaaallllly long time to pump up a tube by hand with this thing, but at least I know I have a back-up if CO2 fails me.

Edited by jsnowash 2009-07-29 1:35 PM
2009-07-29 1:36 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump

I go with CO2 because my bike is too pretty to have anything strapped to it.



2009-07-29 1:44 PM
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2 CO2 cartridges + cell phone.
2009-07-29 1:47 PM
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2009-07-29 1:53 PM
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CO2

I have a handle bar bag that the CO2 pump fits nicely in.  This way I can have 2 water bottles on the frame.
2009-07-29 2:07 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
3 C02 cartridges for me with 2 tubes, racing and training.  If you're going to use C02 for training and/or racing you might consider buying one or two extras so that you can practice and make sure you know how it works.  I've seen too many people with only C02 (that don't know how to use it) screw it up and then they're SOL.

As a side note: always check your C02 cartridges before a race.  Twice now I've had my full cartridges swapped off my Xlab wing for empty ones at a race.  Only to realize what has happened when it is needed.  Damn theives!
2009-07-29 2:10 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
I have both both a frame pump and CO2.  +1 on practicing with the CO2, I watched the 2008 Kona on NBC and Chrissy Wellingtons error with the CO2 cartridge worried me.  If a pro can screw it up I know I will.

2009-07-29 7:27 PM
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I sometimes carry both, but I still feel insecure with only CO2.

I've had one instance where I misapplied the CO2 (a la Chrissy Wellington) and lost have the CO2 in my inflator before I got it right, and yet another one in which I inflated properly, yet had a slow leak that I still don't know where it came from, as the tire was fine after I re-pumped it with someone's hand pump. 

Since then, I'm all for the frame pump, but I do readily admit that CO2 pumps a lot faster and works great when it works.
2009-07-29 7:41 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
wgraves7582 - 2009-07-29 2:47 PM

jeng - 2009-07-29 2:36 PM

I go with CO2 because my bike is too pretty to have anything strapped to it.

And so is the rider



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2009-07-29 8:00 PM
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X2.... That's what I carry. This is the one I have: Innovations Second Wind Granted.... it would probably take a reeeaaaallllly long time to pump up a tube by hand with this thing, but at least I know I have a back-up if CO2 fails me.


That looks awesome...about how many inches in length is it? 

I have a frame-mounted pump, but my frame is so small (I think it is only 48 cm...short legs!) that it really interferes with my water bottle.  This one looks like maybe it would fit in my seat bag.

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2009-07-29 8:54 PM
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Subject: RE: CO2 Cartridge or Frame Pump
jeng - 2009-07-29 2:36 PM

I go with CO2 because my bike is too pretty to have anything strapped to it.



I have the innovations second wind mini - it fits between the rails of the seat, so it is "invisible" on the bike.  And I have the security of both CO2 and pump if needed. 

For people that don't use a pump, do you ever run into other riders with a flat? It's nice to be able to help others if needed.

ETA - the one I use is a different one than the link above.

Edited by gearboy 2009-07-29 9:02 PM
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