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2009-08-09 6:55 PM

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Subject: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....

so, roadie, why can't you even give me a courteous head nod when I wave hi to you when I am out on my long run? 

If it had happened only once I would say they were in the zone, but it happens far too often...



2009-08-09 7:01 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
Totally agree.  I try to give other people a nod when passing, especially while running.  30% at best return.  Weird.


2009-08-09 7:05 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
i always give a nod or say hey when passing another runner, and always a quick wave when on the bike going by other cyclists.  usually get more returned on the bike. not always on the run.
2009-08-09 7:13 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
So true, but so strange. Most of the runners I know say they at least nod. Usually I will get a response from a good morning, but you never can tell.
Bikers seem to be a little nicer.
I haven't tried to say hi in the water, but I bet it would get a unique response if you swam up behind someone and said HEY!
2009-08-09 7:21 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
Around here roadies usu nod.
2009-08-09 7:28 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
Strange I've found the runners to be the most likely to return a wave or a good morning.
Most cyclists in my area usually won't even acknowedge you.
It may just be the ones I run into. There aren't very many people that are out the time of day I do my workouts. Maybe if I saw more people I would have different results.


2009-08-09 7:29 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
next633 - 2009-08-09 7:28 PM

Strange I've found the runners to be the most likely to return a wave or a good morning.
Most cyclists in my area usually won't even acknowedge you.
It may just be the ones I run into. There aren't very many people that are out the time of day I do my workouts. Maybe if I saw more people I would have different results.


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runners seem more friendly in california
2009-08-09 8:53 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
yeah unrequited waves and gestures are always a killjoy. Where I live in Cali the cyclist act like hard-. To be honest I do the same. There are times I get wonderful gestures of affection but can't bother to return the feeling because I am too focused.

running I always get a gesture because it is more personal it seems, UNLESS, they are running on the other side of the street.
2009-08-09 9:01 PM
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I usually manage a thumbs up on the bike...but some prob don't see that.  I wear headphones so I don't hear words, but when I see a smile I imagine that I am smiling although it may not look like it on some workouts.
2009-08-09 10:31 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
Honestly, everyone is friendly around here if you're cycling, running, walking, whether the people I pass are doing the same or just standing in their front yard. Cyclists always wave or give a nod and runners usually always smile and say 'hi', even from across the street. The only ones who don't are the younger guys on commuter bikes, who are just using their bikes to get from here to there, aren't wearing helmets and are riding on the wrong side of the street.
2009-08-09 10:45 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....

I used to not understand when people didn't acknowledge a wave or nod while ridng.  If someone gestured (nicely) to me I would wave or nod in reply.  But I noticed this past year that sometimes when I'm focused and pushing hard through a section of my ride, I wouldn't respond.  Not an arrogance thing, but I really just either too focused or maxed at the moment to shift my attention from the workout.

So I wouldn't read a lot into it.  Maybe someone is just working out something in their head or too into the moment to respond. And if it's an arrogance issue, well then, that's their problem and not yours, right?



2009-08-09 11:08 PM
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I definitely get very few acknowledgements on my waves and "good mornings" on my runs down Harbor Dr in San Diego (which is full of runners and FLAT - no hills for anyone to be working too hard to wave). The 30% mentioned earlier seems to be about right. Then again, maybe since it's San Diego everyone's too focused on all the pace booty around here...
2009-08-09 11:19 PM
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Also, it is very commonplace to see people running and cycling in SoCal near the coast...from what I've seen, I don't get that far too often. So, you find yourself passing a lot more runners and cyclists than I do in the desert where the concentration of active people is much less. Everyone seems just really appreciative and respectful of others who are on the same fitness-oriented wavelength around here. It is exciting for me to see others doing what I'm doing...it is kind of a big deal.
2009-08-09 11:24 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
My daughter and I were out riding a couple weeks ago and we passed a touring group. They made a big noise with their horns and bells and hollers. That was awesome!
2009-08-09 11:38 PM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
Runners here generally don't exchange greetings (but I tend to run places where there are a lot of runners out there...sort of like pedestrians and in a city like LA most pedestrians don't wave hello to each other).

Cyclists on the road, sorry to say, are fewer in number, but not especially likely to wave hello.  Some nods.  Less than 50% response rate, I'd bet.
2009-08-11 12:51 AM
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I live in rural NH - we practically have farmer chats at every passing. Seriously, when you only see one or MAYBE two people on a ride or run, you wave or say hey. Heck, I wave to the CARS that pass me - most of them are my neighbors anyway!

But, I was riding my new roadie a couple weeks ago on a much busier section of road. Passed a tricked out cyclist who looked me in the eye, nodded, and waved. I looked back, smiled...and attempted to wave. Only, I hadn't shifted my weight off my hands, couldn't get my hand up in time, and probably looked like I was totally confused. LOL! I can only imagine what that guy thought of me...


2009-08-11 7:24 AM
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I wave, on the bike, motorcycle, running, whenever.

Some sport bike guys don't return the greeting b/c I'm on a cruiser
Some harley guys don't when I'm on the honda
Some cyclists don't b/c they are In the zone
Some runners don't b/c we're on a trail in the woods and their momma told them not to make eye contact with strange men.

It doesn't matter. I wave.
2009-08-11 8:54 AM
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I always smile and nod or say hello, and I don't think I've ever come across anyone who didn't at least smile back. And I love it when someone beats me to the punch and I hear a cheery "hello!" before I am able to get it out. Gives me a big smile!
2009-08-11 9:02 AM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
I've found that if I'm riding on a straight-up training ride, all kitted out in jersey & shorts, not carrying anything except a water bottle, I usually get a nod back from the roadies and not so much from the other cyclists.  But if I'm riding to work (therefore usually wearing a T-shirt and jeans, with my work shirt and shoes in my messenger bag), I never get a nod back from the roadies, but I get a nod back from everyone else.  It's pretty funny.  Runners here almost always wave/nod back to other runners, but not so much to cyclists.  Cyclists just look confused when runners wave to them.

As I have discussed in a previous thread, some of the local swimmers are a little TOO friendly. 
2009-08-11 9:05 AM
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I have a tri setup (aero, bullhorns, etc) and ride often on a popular cycling route. Lots of roadies alone and in groups. When I see another tri bike I always give a nod or wave and have yet to get a return.

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My bike is a 2008 Specialized Allez triple. I've made some modifications with the bullhorns, aero bars, end shiters and brakes, red and black cammo bar tape, and a FF seatpost but it's still an entry level road bike. On one ride I passed a roadie going up a hill. I wasn't going really fast but he wasn't either. We exchanged a few pleasantires as I passed and as I rode off he called out, "Nice bike". I wonder if he was effing with me.

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2009-08-11 9:15 AM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
ashort33 - 2009-08-09 6:55 PM

so, roadie, why can't you even give me a courteous head nod when I wave hi to you when I am out on my long run? 

If it had happened only once I would say they were in the zone, but it happens far too often...



I have to say, that I thought riders were snobby... until I started riding b@lls to the wall... aka: can't hardly breathe, pedaling as fast as I can, and focused on the road in front of me. Often, I just don't SEE anything else around me.

It's likely that they are in the zone... even more than once.

Shoot, at my group ride we all ride inches from each other without a word- we just can't talk! HA!

Lately I have also started to understand how people in races don't acknowledge the spectors who are cheering. When I run these days, I am so focused, I really don't comprehend or think about what is going on around me. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just running so hard (for me) that I can't take in anything else. If that makes sense.






2009-08-11 9:48 AM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
I find its a mix. If I am running some bicyclist will not return a hello - when I am biking some runners ignore me? IDK. Always makes me wonder why they are so cranky? I am out doing something I love so I am happy - why are they so miserable and unfriendly? Who knows. I never take my training too serious though - maybe they are in the zone? Who knows.
2009-08-11 9:58 AM
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Subject: RE: If you swim, bike, or run - you are my friend....
I get this a lot too.  I first thought it was a snobby thing b/c most of the people who would ignore me were the ones out in first class gear and all.  I'm running with old shorts and t-shirts or cycling without a skin tight outfit with multiple logos.  I just figured they were much too "serious" for me.  Then I found women would say hi more so then men.  Maybe b/c I'm a woman, who knows?  Lately though during my rides I've been pushing myself to go out on some harder terrain and trying to keep my cadence up.  I've found that more people will say hi or nod during those workouts maybe to acknowledge I'm out there killing myself just like they are. 

Regardless, I always give a smile or nod to my friends on the road.  It makes me feel more part of a community that way logos or not. 
2009-08-11 10:32 AM
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Hello

I thought of this thread this morning when I was doing my no light morning ride.  As I was making my loops around the neighborhood I passed a fellow out running and went out of my way to say hello to him.  I dont know if he heard me or even responded because we were moving in oppistie directions.

No light means its dark outside.  I have a clip-on front headlight that goes between my aero-bars, red rear blinking light & I wear an army road guard reflective vest.  I only saw 3 cars today and none were close to me. 

The other Tri-guy that lives around the corner from me was not out today on his bike so no issue with us face planting.

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2009-08-11 10:39 AM
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I will wave or nod to others and it is hit or miss if I get a response.  More often than not I even wave to those on motorcycles too.  Force of habit from riding motorcycles and give the hand out to the side to other passing motorcycles.  I've been waved at before and didn't respond because I was pushing really hard or so focused on the road directly in front of me that it was just a after sight in my peripheral vision.

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