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2009-11-10 10:12 PM

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Subject: Road bike or tri bike for ironman?
This may sound like a really dumb question, but I was wondering if I might be better off using a road bike for the ironman for the sake of comfort. What is the consensus on this as an option? What have other people done in the longer distances? It's my first one and I want to approach it from the right direction.
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2009-11-11 12:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Road bike or tri bike for ironman?

You're going to get a ton of varying answers here.  But I absolutly love my tri bike.  And I know you are doing IMFL which is FLAT which is best suited by a tri bike.  I am more comfortable on my tri bike, but i know there are going to be lots of people on here throw out the "fit" issue being the most important.  Which is true, but i am fit well on both and i still am more comfortable on my tri bike.

2009-11-11 12:09 PM
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I'll be riding a tri bike as will probably 90% of the field.
2009-11-11 12:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Road bike or tri bike for ironman?
I have both and find my tri bike much more comfortable as my skeleton system supports my upper body. Road bike my upper body is supported by my arms. For 112 mile ride comfort is key but aero position is also faster.

If you are doing IMFL (I am too..should be fun) as previously mentioned it is the ideal course to stay aero in tri bike and improve your speed.

I train with power meter and don't ever know what my speed is as I set my computer head for other data. I borrowed a friends bike while down at IMFL this year which had a typical cycling computer on it. Her bike didn't fit me exactly as drop was much greater than mine to aerobars so I rode sitting up more than I normally would. I watched the difference in pace while up on the bull horns which is similar to road bike position then dropping down into aerobars, I easily would go .75-1.5 mph faster. It was fun little experiment to play around with.
2009-11-11 1:32 PM
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I'll be on my tri bike. I've done two centuries on my road bike and several longer rides (60-80 miles) on my tri bike and I just like the tri bike better. I love being in aero and the Florida course allows you to be aero.
2009-11-12 8:34 AM
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I am one of the rare people who like a road bike better. I do find the road bike more comfortable and have never been able to find complete comfort in the aero position. I have been fit on both bikes, but I still just find the road bike more comfortable. I am willing to give up a small bit of speed for the comfort.



2009-11-12 8:50 AM
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Used my brothers roadie for IMFL, bought a tri-bike while I was down there. I am just not as comfortable on the road bike and feel like I get more speed for less effort on the tri. Then again it might just be me justifying the $2400 bucks.
2009-11-12 9:08 AM
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If you have a decent fit and lots of time training on it, tri bike.

2009-11-12 10:34 AM
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For what it's worth, the overwhemingly vast majority of people who did IMFL this past weekend did it on a tri bike.  I did it on a tri bike also.  I think that comfort is a personal thing that not too many folks can help you with.  If your decision is based largely on comfort then you need to hit the road for a long rides on both to see what the difference is.  **If** 99 out of 100 people who did IMFL on a tri bike because it's more comfortable for THEM then it will do you no good if you are that 1 out of 100.

If speed is part of your decision then a tri bike on a flat course like IMFL is better because the design of the bike will make it more natural for you to drop lower while riding.  It won't make much of a difference if you spend the vast majority of your time riding in a standard road position when you are on the tri bike.  I personally feel more comfortable riding a tri bike on a flat course.
2009-11-12 10:49 AM
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It may just be me, but I would make the choice depending on how much I think I would be able to stay in earo.

If it's a flat to rolling course, the tri bike.  If there is a lot of climbing, the road bike.

If you are not going to ride in earo, you just lost all of the advantage a tri bike gives you.  For me, the road bike gives me more leverage for hard climbs and out of the saddle efforts.

But I miss my tri bike on long rides becuase I like to take some pressure off my arms and hands and get in earo.



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2009-11-12 11:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Road bike or tri bike for ironman?
I guess I'm lucky, because I've never understood the folks that ride a rode bike for "comfort". I'm way more comfortable on my tri bike than on a my road bike and that's with a very aggressive aero position. There's not a single branded North American IM that I wouldn't use my tri bike for. I might give it more consideration for Silverman, since that course has a lot of climbing. But even then, my tri bike isn't significantly heavier than my road bike, so why not get the aero advantage on the flats and downhills that do exist?


2009-11-12 11:00 PM
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I prefer a road bike... the function and safety is higher when training on a road bike and handling is better as well.  Brakes, gears and hoods all in the same place.  If you're racing for the podium or looking to fit in with the majority of the riders in a Ironman ride an aero/tri bike - part of the fun - oh and buy a Cervelo - that's the most common bike too!  I'm not fast enough to care and when I train I'll take function over form everytime.  Since I train on a road bike - I'll use the road bike in the event.  It's been said... aero is free speed.  Free my a$$.  It's expensive speed and I'll still not be anywhere close to the podium either way... unless I use a taser and take it by force.  By the way... I've trained on both and can afford both I suppose... I still like the road bike better.  Don't care for the aero position.   

2009-11-13 7:31 AM
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If you are properly fit then your tri bike in aero should be comfortable. Not to mention the fact that you should put in enough miles that your body adapts to the aero position.

 

 

2009-11-13 8:32 AM
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My experience w/a tri bike (2 yrs compared to 10 yrs on a road) is that I expend far less energy than on a road bike. Perhaps it's b/c you can relax the core & just chill on your upper skeletal.
2009-11-13 9:02 AM
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In my area (as with many areas) I see a tremendous amount of people using aero bikes and aero bars who would be best served on a road bike for function, safety, versatility and lack of expense (more bikes to choose from when buying used and generally more lower priced new options as well).  Get fit on a bike - any bike - and then worry about a TT bike if and when you squeeze the upper limits of your fitness and you're still interested in racing.  Recommending an aero bike to beginners isn't necessarily solid advice.  It's very restrictive in so many ways and creates more obstacles to getting into this expensive sport.  Personally, I've been fit and can fit people to triathlon bikes and still enjoy my road bike more for the reasons mentioned above.  In addition, group riding is much easier as well creating a social network increasing the likelyhood of adherence. Bottom line... keeping things simple will help adherence for those starting out and all these aero items to shave time should be held out for another crowd and /or at a later date.  

2009-11-14 9:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Road bike or tri bike for ironman?
Well if you have a road bike and not a tri bike and this is your first one then I wouldn't go out and buy a tri bike!  Your road bike would be quite adequate.
I did my first IM (Lake Placid) on my road bike with clip on aerobars and I certainly didn't feel out of place.



2009-11-16 11:40 AM
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For what it's worth, I'll be one of the 10% of people at IMFL with a road bike, with clip on aerobars.  I'd love a nice tri bike, but am saving the money for other things right now. 
2009-11-16 8:35 PM
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ras26 - 2009-11-16 11:40 AM For what it's worth, I'll be one of the 10% of people at IMFL with a road bike, with clip on aerobars.  I'd love a nice tri bike, but am saving the money for other things right now. 

And if you are fitted properly in that position, then fine.

I'd go aero and save the energy - tri bike.

2009-11-17 10:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Road bike or tri bike for ironman?
Perhaps because I cross train and cross compete I'm probably not as specialized in my thinking as many triathletes are... I tend to like big bang for the buck over a few seconds or minutes.  But for those riding road bikes Profile Design Jammers work well without modifying anything else.  They are shorter than average aero bars bringing the rider in closer which works well on road bikes because of the seat angle. 

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