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2010-05-12 6:17 PM

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Subject: Need some ideas on transition area setup.
I am a newbie and I've got two races this weekend, a sprint tri and a duathlon the next day at different locations.

I'm looking for some ideas on what I need for my transitions and how much room I might have.  I'm thinking I'll have a small towel to wipe my feet off and a frozen bottle of recovery drink on the bike, I'm thinking it will thaw out in the hour or two before race start.  A pair of shades with the helmet of course, and should I wear a bike shirt or a running shirt?  I definitely won't be changing in T2 and I don't have a tri top (do have tri shorts).  For the Du, I was thinking the bottle on the bike and a second bottle since it's 5K/30K/5K and I might get thirsty, and a towel to wipe off.  Maybe an extra pair of socks too, but I'm not sure why I'd need them.

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2010-05-12 6:36 PM
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Main thing in transition is minimize. 

You'll probably have space about the size of a small bath towel or bathmat.

You should have just the things you need during the race, plus maybe a hand towel and/or squirt bottle to clean your feet off.  Don't plan to eat or drink in transition, do that while you're biking ro running.  Spare anything sitting around is just a distraction--if you don't know you're going to use it, stick it back in your bag.  Same with things you'll want after the race--keep them in the bag.

If you're going to put a shirt on in T1 and not wear it for the swim, then I'd say whichever is looser and easier to pull on over a wet body--probably the running shirt. 

Bottle on the bike is good, but I'd think twice about freezing it.  You need the fluid more than you need the cold, and if it doesn't thaw as much as you think it will you could be screwed.  Refrigerated or even room temp will be fine.

Second bottle for the du is your call, but if you get some fluids in during the bike and there are aid stations on the run course, do you really need it for the second run?  If you do, again, don't take a drink in transition, just grab it and go.

I don't usually practice transitions at full speed (although I probably should), but I do lay out my stuff the night before the race and walk through all of the steps.  Helps mentally, plus right after I do that I pack up my bag, so I'm sure I've got everything.



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2010-05-12 6:50 PM
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As you can see... They throw bikes pretty close together


Closer view of a transition area:
2010-05-12 6:51 PM
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agree with above.  Keep it simple and don't freeze the bottle.  the water/sports drink doesn't help really help your body by being cold.  Besides having the problem of it not thawing out...I think room temperature water is much easeir to drink while exercising...but that's just me.  Of course if I'm sitting at a table eating dinner...I want my drink to be ice cold.
2010-05-12 7:45 PM
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Good stuff, I didn't think about the spray bottle to knock dirt off my feet.  I can't stand running with crap in my socks but I suppose I won't be thinking about it much.
2010-05-12 7:47 PM
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swbkrun - 2010-05-12 4:50 PM As you can see... They throw bikes pretty close together


Closer view of a transition area:


HOLY COW that's a lot of stuff.

All you need:
Small towel
water squirt bottle
socks on top of bike shoes
helmet on bike or on ground, sunglasses inside
shoes on ground with race belt and hat on top, perhaps a gu


2010-05-12 7:51 PM
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ChrisM - 2010-05-12 8:47 PM

HOLY COW that's a lot of stuff.

All you need:
Small towel
water squirt bottle
socks on top of bike shoes
helmet on bike or on ground, sunglasses inside
shoes on ground with race belt and hat on top, perhaps a gu


Those stuffs seem to belonged to 2 different racers (red and green towels)
2010-05-12 7:53 PM
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D.K. - 2010-05-12 5:51 PM
ChrisM - 2010-05-12 8:47 PM

HOLY COW that's a lot of stuff.

All you need:
Small towel
water squirt bottle
socks on top of bike shoes
helmet on bike or on ground, sunglasses inside
shoes on ground with race belt and hat on top, perhaps a gu


Those stuffs seem to belonged to 2 different racers (red and green towels)


I know.  It's still a lot of stuff, primarily nutrition.  They've got no aid stations in those races??????

For the OP

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/Michael%20Pate/Sept%20'03%20-%20Laying%20Out%20A%20Transition%20Area.htm

Edited by ChrisM 2010-05-12 7:57 PM
2010-05-12 7:59 PM
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T1 - Put your sunglasses in your helmet, with the straps out and facing the right direction, cradle the helmet on your cycling shoes.  Three steps, glasses, helmet, shoes.  Put a little baby powder in your cycling shoes, it acts as a desicant and will dry your feet and sift off any dirt/sand.

T2 - Put your race number belt and hat under your running shoes.  Three layers.  If you're going to use socks on the run, gather them down and put one gently in each running shoe with a little baby powder in each sock, it will help them go on easier.  Socks on, shoes on, grab the race number belt and hat and put them on while you're running.  

Good luck at your races.

p.s.  Go out moderately on your first run in the duathlon or you'll pay dearly in the second run.  Don't treat the first like a regular flat out 5K.


 
2010-05-12 8:19 PM
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A good transition should look something like this...less clutter means less things to trip over when racking/unracking your bike.  If you like to carry lots of nutrition...thow it in your hat.  It's easier to stuff things in your pockets on the run than to pick up all your nutrition laying all over your towel.

Just don't be like me in my last race and get the bright idea of stuffing your nutrition in your new tri short pockets during the swim...because they might not be there for the bike and the run after you get out of the water.



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2010-05-12 9:33 PM
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More good info, thanks.  I don't have a race belt but I've got a spibelt I use for marathons so that should work.  I'll definitely use the baby powder tip as well.


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swbkrun - 2010-05-12 6:50 PM As you can see... They throw bikes pretty close together


Closer view of a transition area:


Umm ... where is your bucket?

 
2010-05-12 11:22 PM
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krisko - 2010-05-12 7:33 PM More good info, thanks.  I don't have a race belt but I've got a spibelt I use for marathons so that should work.  I'll definitely use the baby powder tip as well.

I usually bike without socks so I don't have to worry quite as much about getting my feet squeaky clean--usually most of the grit comes off by the end of the bike leg.  I find putting a little bit of BodyGlide just inside the heel makes the bike shoes slip on a little easier.

I can't run without socks, though.  Quickest to put them on before the race and roll them down your foot so you can just stick your toe in and then roll them up.

 

2010-05-13 6:52 AM
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What is the etiquette on running shirtless?   I'm not Shamu nor do I have a six pack, I'm somewhere in between.  I just don't want to offend anybody.  I figure it would save a little time on the bike and the run would feel better.
2010-05-13 6:54 AM
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krisko - 2010-05-13 7:52 AM What is the etiquette on running shirtless?   I'm not Shamu nor do I have a six pack, I'm somewhere in between.  I just don't want to offend anybody.  I figure it would save a little time on the bike and the run would feel better.

You will need to check on the rule. Shirtless is illegal for most events. 
You can s/b/r in your tri top without changing.
2010-05-13 6:58 AM
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krisko - 2010-05-13 6:52 AM What is the etiquette on running shirtless?   I'm not Shamu nor do I have a six pack, I'm somewhere in between.  I just don't want to offend anybody.  I figure it would save a little time on the bike and the run would feel better.


I've found that no matter what you do, someone will always find a way to be offended.

Cool

Check the rules, USAT doesn't require a shirt but WTC and some individual races do require "covered torsos."

D.K. - 2010-05-13 6:54 AM
You will need to check on the rule. Shirtless is illegal for most events. 


No, it isn't. at least not around here and per the USAT.

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Don't worry about offending anyone. I've gone shirtless in many USAT races. The only consideration for me is keeping the sweat at bay. So, in those instances I'll wear a tri top.
2010-05-13 8:14 AM
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What was the distance of that race? Was there a final decision that changing tents would not fit in transition? That is a lot of stuff to get kicked around. The bags have to go!

2010-05-13 8:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Need some ideas on transition area setup.
Quick tip.
If you are not 100% sure you are going to be the first person out of the water, DO NOT wear a Speedo.

You will be taunted.

Transition for a tri
-small hand towel for feet
-helmet mounted between aerobars (or, usually on a road bike you can get it sitting on the wires if you don't have aerobars) with sunglasses inside them ready to be put on.
- Bike shoes either already clipped in or ready to be slipped on.
- Sprint tri - maybe 1 water bottle on the bike... probably not though. You should be hammering the whole way on the bike. I usually leave mine in Transition and grab a drink before jumping on the bike.
- Back into transition, helmet off, shoes off, tennis shoes on (and socks, rolled down and ready to slide on) race belt on, out of t2.

So in all
small hand towel
water bottle
bike shoes
helmet
glasses
running shoes
socks
race belt
hat if you wear one, and any cold gear (arm warmers, etc)
2010-05-13 8:30 AM
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RE:  Race number belts:  I use the TNi ZBelt, it has three elastic loops on the belt which will hold a gel pack nicely.  They also make one with a little mesh pocket as well that I've used for IM or 70.3 races if you need more room.   I don't carry liquid, too heavy.  E-Gels by Crank have electrolyte as well as carbs etc and are designed to be taken with only water, so you don't have to rely on what the race is using for electrolyte, in case your stomache is sensitive. 

This way everything you need is on the belt.
2010-05-13 8:32 AM
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Hello

Practice pulling on socks standing with damp feet. 

This is the area I need to work on. My last race I most have tipped back on two feet about 8 times trying to get my socks on.

Kevin


2010-05-13 9:13 AM
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For the OP

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/Michael%20Pate/Sept%20'03%20-%20Laying%20Out%20A%20Transition%20Area.htm[/QUOTE]


Maybe I missed it while browsing this thread, but the above link and drawing has me wondering: what do you do with the bag you brought your stuff in?  The drawing in the above link shows the bag sitting on the ground under the bike.  Is this OK or do you have to shlep it back to the car?
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