Requests to help and for help DENIED

Travesty! My head has been spinning all morning, how in the world could they let that happen?!?!?

I'd be interested to see how the B.O. supporters view this...

Well, if they are like B.O. supporter Chris Mathews from MSNBC...its still (even just 3 days ago) ALL about the video....

Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, the two former Navy SEALS who were among the four Americans inevitably murdered, allegedly disobeyed orders from superiors to “stand down” in the wake of the attack. Despite being told by higher-ups not to respond, they purportedly decided to go to the main consulate building to help U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and others who were under siege.

The two guys gave their lives to try to save others and the current administration told them to NOT assist, twice.

This administration sickens me.

I'm betting not the same "sources" that Sen. Harry Reid relied upon to report that Romney hasn't paid his taxes.

These "sources" are probably military and CIA.  They are not going to reveal themselves.  And yes it bothers we that they are "unknown".

But honestly between Fast and Furious and the emails that prove the admin knew it was a terrorist attack less than 2 hours after they started, would it really surprise you to find out this is all true?

Criticizing a spec ops battlefield decision is almost always done without all the facts since they're mostly classified.

You want to turn this into a president-bashing session but you don't know what the situation was.  And neither does Fox.  Maybe the ground to air threat was too much.  Maybe they didn't want a Spectre hammering a populated area.  Or any variety of reasons.

You guys make me sick trying to politicize and armchair quarterback every single military decision.  If air support was ordered in and ended up with a shot down helicopter like Somalia you'd be all over the president for that too.

And yeah I'm former military and I hate seeing us lose people.  But I'm not going to second-guess the guys who were on scene.

/rant off

An administration is slowly proving to be covering up their mistakes.  Look at the emails proving they knew it was terrorism related not 2 hours after the event.  Can you really believe ANYTHING they say at this point?  I'm not taking this report as gospel but I'd put money on it being true.

And for the record I'd be saying the same thing of a Republican administration.  This is an example of government screwing up.

Notice I have used the term "administration", not "Obama" in all of my posts.

I blame it on Romney.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/24/doubts-surface-over-e-mail-on-claim-of-responsibility-for-benghazi-attack/?iref=allsearch

Another biased media source. This is the real problem with the MSM. I don't trust either Fox or CNN. So now I have no idea what to believe.

I didn't take it as him doubting me.  I just wrote down a few examples.  Folks at home not knowing the whole situation goes double when the CIA is involved.

x2 meeelion. Well put. 

Please explain what you mean by this.  Move it in four hours where?

No, it's not.  It nearly 2000 statute miles (about 1700 or so in nautical miles) in a straight line (a straight line that goes directly through the heart of North Sudan and Egypt to get there).

I've gone back and forth with myself over whether or not to get involved in this.

On the one hand, I tend to feel like most people who were involved in things like this ought to keep their mouths shut. 

On the other hand, some people clearly haven't done that, and the information that they've leaked has either been misconstrued or simply misused and ended up in news reports that are 100% wrong (like the idea that there was an AC-130 within 2000 miles of Libya on the day of the attack, or that SOF ground teams were available to intervene during the attack but weren't authorized to enter).

It was one thing when everyone was all in a tizzy over the diplomatic/informational response to the issue.

It's quite another thing now that the narrative is shifting to something completely different, that Americans essentially murdered other Americans by sitting idly by and watching them die when they didn't have to.  More specifically, that there was this menu of selectable military options that was ruled out one by one by decision makers.  Some of those military decisions wouldn't have required external approval to deploy (and in some cases employ), so now the negligent homicide accusation bubble has expanded to include several Generals and their staffs overseas and in the US.

It is getting out of hand.

I will say only this:  based on my fairly significant involvement in the military response to what happened in Libya, it is my sincere belief that there were no options available to decision makers that could have altered what happened on the ground that day.

So you don't trust our generals, then?

Senator McCain, who is the ranking senator on the Armed Services Committee has been livid over the lack of preparation and readiness, and he called them out on THAT.  But not once has he questioned the go/no-go decision.  He of all people understands how that works.

Apparently Mr. Woods (who was working with the CIA) believed there were assets available or he wouldn't have been painting a target with a laser when he was killed.  I don't know what happened, but from everything I have read, it seems to me that we had people die needlessly.  Not being prepared on 9/11 makes about as much sense as not giving the police breathalyzers  on New Year's Eve.