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2007-01-30 1:58 PM

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Subject: Kitchen People
I am looking to get a descent set of cooking knifes.  I can't afford some of them that are like a couple hundred dollars, but i will pay around $100 for a good set.  What are some good names or brands that you like and won't cost a poor college student an arm and a leg?


2007-01-30 2:00 PM
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Giver
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There's only one name in knives:

Ginsu!

But seriously: go to a restaurant supply storeand get pretty much anything there.



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2007-01-30 2:07 PM
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I have some of the Henckel's knives.  I decided to get those after using my roommate's when he was in cuilinary school.  Rather than getting a whole set, most of which I wouldn't used, I spent more money on the three I do use: chef's knife, paring knife, and utility knife.
2007-01-30 2:09 PM
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Here is what I was told by a chef I used to work with:

"The knife doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the skill of the cook."

I got a knife at Target for about $10, and it's my primary use knife.  It's a santoku type blade.  I think it's Hampton Forge, maybe.  If you want to look for something that's decent, you want to avoid anything that's stamped, and you want to look for a knife where the tang goes through the entire handle.  Forged stainless steel is the way to go.  Also, don't get any of those Eversharp or serrated knives (unless it's a bread knife, which is supposed to be serrated).

Beyond that, get a sharpener, and sharpen the knife regularly.  More likely to cut yourself with a dull knife. 

2007-01-30 2:12 PM
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Top of the line are Henckle, Wusthof and anything by Ken Onion. Each offers sets of different quantity and quality, going up to around $2k for the uber-ridiculous knives. There are also good knives put out by Kitchenware, Furi and Calphalon...

Check out eBay (if there's one near you, IKEA has great house-brand knives), or a restaurant supply store, or even some place like Bed Bath & Beyond.

I would personally recommend, though, getting a few high quality knives:
6 or 8" santoku
Paring
10" bread knife

Those are the only 3 I really use. Nothing I've been able to find that I can't adequately slice and dice with one of those 3. Unless you're a super kitchen whiz, the other 43 knives that come in a set are probably superfluous.

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2007-01-30 2:15 PM
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How many pieces do you need? Are you talking about a set of steak knives, too?

Can't recommend a brand for < $100 for a set (mine are Henckels) but I can suggest that you look for a knife with a full tang. Also, hold the knife in your hand to see how it feels; you want the weight to feel balanced in your hand.

Found this at Target for $60 but I did not see the words "full tang" in the description. I'm guessing it's Henckel's budget line.

Research!

(Another way to go is to spend more for fewer knives - just buy a good chef's knife and paring knife. They will last YEARS. Mine are about 15 yrs old and just as good as when I bought them.)



Edited by Renee 2007-01-30 2:24 PM
2007-01-30 2:19 PM
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I agree that you only really need about 3-4 knives (some would agrue even less). For the money, I am fond of Chicago Cutlery, the forged ones with thicker blades. I reccommend

  • chef's knife (8 or 10 inch)
  • paring knife (3-4 inch)
  • serrated slicer (bread knife)
  • (bonus if you have the $) utility knife (5-inch)
  • a sharpening steel

Spend the most on the knife you are going to use the most (chef's knife). Keep them sharp.



Edited by ride_like_u_stole_it 2007-01-30 2:20 PM
2007-01-30 2:35 PM
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Buttercup
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I LOVE my carving knife; it really makes a difference. Does it matter that I use it twice a year? Not at all!

I had to restrain myself from buying a fish fileting knife. When is the last time my then-husband brought home a fish that needed fileting? Ummmm... 1987? What's your point? Ok, I didn't buy the knife. It was a growth experience for me to walk away from the filet knife.

I have 3 chef's knifes, one of which I never use (I dislike it for personal reasons so I won't use it). Hey parrj - want my chef's knife? It's a Henckel's. Freebie. At least it will go to good use and you can use the $100 to buy a couple of other good knives!



Edited by Renee 2007-01-30 2:36 PM
2007-01-30 2:37 PM
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If you want a good knife you're gonna have to pay for it.

Find a good chef knife and just use that...make sure you keep it professionally sharpened.

You can really get by on a couple of knives....Chef knife and a four inch parring knife will get you through most situations.

My knives stay in my knife bag and never see a dishwasher. In culinary school we all had to buy the same set and after what I paid no one will ever touch those bad boys but me.

If I was still in college, I would just go to Target and grab a set...chances are anything in college will get trashed anyway.

2007-01-30 2:44 PM
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Runner
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running2far - 2007-01-30 3:37 PM 

My knives stay in my knife bag and never see a dishwasher.

This is something I'm trying to teach my wife.



2007-01-30 2:47 PM
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Henckel's and Wustof are the two "premier" brands.  There are different categories w/in each brand, some more or less expensive than others. Be sure that:

You get stainless steel.  The ceramic blades are super sharp, but really expensive and can shatter if dropped on a hard surface.

You get a full tang, meaning that the blade is integrated into the handle.

You can get an automatic sharpener which work really well--as well as getting them professionally sharpened at a fraction of the cost.

Get a chef's knife, ideally either 8" or 10", depending on whichever feels better.  A 3.5" paring knife is #2, and you should get a sharpening steel, which will preserve the edge longer. That should be enough for 80% of your needs.  I think simpler is better with knives.  I have a set of Henkels that I got 20 years ago in college, and they're still in great shape.

2007-01-31 7:45 AM
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We have this Henckels set, and they have been great!  Although, I wish they had the "knife name" on the handle so that you didn't have to pull each knife out of the block to find the one you want to use.

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=13907471&RN=395



Edited by katieyows 2007-01-31 7:46 AM
2007-01-31 8:40 AM
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We have a global knife that I LOVE - even tho' I thought it was too big for me to handle when we first got it. It's the G2 18" chef's knife:



I use it for most everything. Except for bread and tomatoes, when I use this Wusthof Classic one:



It's got an offset handle which is nice, it's 30cm overall length. (12.5in) My DH uses this one for more, like veggies and stuff, where I use the global.

We still need a paring knife that we like, but for now I pretty much use the global for that, too. I have a cheapo small ceramic knife that I got in my stocking one year - it came with some cookbook. I use that for things like quickly slicing an apple for DS.

And my knives never see the inside of the dishwasher, either. In fact, I hate to put soap on them, just a quick wipe and back they go in the block.

FWIW - we got those two knives after reading Tony Bordain's suggestions on what a kitchen should have, in one of his books....(he's pretty much jumped the shark now, imo, but that's another thread)

2007-01-31 8:55 AM
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Ohhhhh kitchen porn...

 

2007-01-31 9:10 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-01-30 3:09 PM

Here is what I was told by a chef I used to work with:

"The knife doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the skill of the cook."

I got a knife at Target for about $10, and it's my primary use knife.  It's a santoku type blade.  I think it's Hampton Forge, maybe.  If you want to look for something that's decent, you want to avoid anything that's stamped, and you want to look for a knife where the tang goes through the entire handle.  Forged stainless steel is the way to go.  Also, don't get any of those Eversharp or serrated knives (unless it's a bread knife, which is supposed to be serrated).

Beyond that, get a sharpener, and sharpen the knife regularly.  More likely to cut yourself with a dull knife. 



Yeah, what he said. I have Henckel 5 Star knives (chef's, carving, boning, and 2 paring knives) and a Global knife for sushi.



The way I look at kitchenware is if you get good stuff, you will have it for a lifetime, if you want, so buy quality.



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2007-01-31 12:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Kitchen People
With the exception of my Global Sashimi knife, the rest of my stuff is from Cutco. Great stuff, good prices and damn near bulletproof. Plus, they have lifetime sharpening on their serrated edges. Actually, one time they sent me a brand new knife (for nothing) when I sent it to be sharpened.

Really though, do you need a full set? Most likely not. This would be my list:
- pairing knife
- french chef or santoku style knife
Yep, that's it. You can do a lot with those two.

And depending on how much entertaining you do:
- carving knife and fork
- bread slicer
- cheese knife
are nice additions as well.

A decent cleaver is a "nice to have" unless you buy your meats already ground or nuggeted. A filet knife is good too if you fish and clean your own catch. But then again, I am a kitchen freak...

"Stainless" and "full tang" are important keywords.

And PLEASE - love your knives and use a good cutting surface

-Frank
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