Doctors and the Medical System RANT
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So. For those of you who don't know me, I've been trying to lose weight for lo these many years and it just keeps on sitting RIGHT THERE and refusing to budge. I am AT LEAST 100 pounds over what I should weigh. 2005-2006- I maintain don't lose/don't gain do a couple of Oly tris, etc. I kinda did expect to lose at least SOME. I mean, I wasn't super clean on my diet every single second but it wasn't all that bad either. I wasn't focusing on it, but really. It's not like I need to lose that last 2 pounds to reach my goal weight. 2007 - Decide that this year is IT and I will lose weight. From Feb to Apr (3 MONTHS people) I have lost MAYBE 5 pounds. Maybe. I am working out 6-10 hours per week. I am watching what I eat. I am NOT overeating. In fact, I joined WW last week to help me out cause SOMETHING is not right here. (On WW I'm actually eating a bit more - resulting in a 2 pound gain this week. Sigh.) Today I have a doctor's appointment, and I discuss this issue with her. She tells me a couple of things (which I am already DOING by the way - small meals, eat frequently, drink lots of water) I ask her if I can get referred to a nutritionist or another professional who can help me figure out what I need to change or do differently. I mean, it's NOT like I'm sitting around on my butt eating bon bons! Guess what. I bet you can already guess. Insurance will only pay if I have diabetes or something. OR of course, if I want to go and have them muck around with my insides. I know this is the way it works but it just SUCKS EGGS! |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I feel for you Shellee. I know what you're going through and it can be devilishly frustrating. Some people seem to shed pounds like water off a duck's back, while others fight for ounces per week it seems. From my own experience, I find that most people who seem to have trouble losing weight have some of the following problems. I'm not saying it's your situation, but it's what stands out the most: 1. Not eating a good breakfast. This should be a supercharged meal. There is a chance you haven't eaten for the previous 10-12 hours and your system is run down. You plug along and finally by mid day or so are ravenously hungry, and tend to overeat to make up for it. 2. Eating while doing other things. Sitting at the computer, or watching TV is conducive to breaking out some sort of snack. 3. Rewarding exercise by overindulging. Running a 10-K is not a license to eat a banana split with a bag of M&M's as a chaser. 4. Empty calories. Beer. 5. Eating a large amount of food right before bedtime. 6. Counting calories on a diet or weight loss plan, but not adding up all the little bits of "grazing" that are done during the day. Office snacks like candy bars are the notorious culprits here. I only know of these because I am living with your twin sister! LOL, so a lot of these things are from first hand experience. Especially the breakfast issue. It's taken me forever to convince her that breakfast should be a decent size meal. It used to be a cup of tea and MAYBE a slice of toast. In your next email, tell her to give you her phone number and you girls can talk real time about these issues. She's battling the same stuff!
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It's the same as my dental insurance paying for a $1400 root canal that was caused from me grinding my teeth at night, but they won't pay the $430 for the night guard that will prevent the need for a root canal in the first place. It's all bass ackwards! ![]() |
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Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I can relate on a very, very small level. I lost 20 pounds in 2 months about 2 years ago with portion control alone. I was not hungry, I did not deprive myself. Then I started traing for tris and couldn't lose any more weight because I ate to fuel my workouts. I COULD lose weight if I became very focused, organized, planned meals ahead, didn't eat small snacks, but it does become difficult. How much does a nutritionist cost? How much is your health worth to you? I know you pay a lot for insurance, but just because they won't cover it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. It's important to you...more important than new tri gear, a new bike, swimming lessons, even cable TV...THIS IS YOUR LIFE!!! Go see a nutritionist and leave your health insurance out of it. PS Why isn't the name of this rant "Insurance System RANT"??? Edited by AdventureBear 2007-04-25 12:56 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sorry to hear about your weight loss problems. As I've heard from many people, which I also am beginning to believe firmly, is that, in this country, we do not have Healthcare. We have Sickcare. There is simply more money to be made (by hospitals and pharma cos, not necessarily by Drs) in the treatment of disease and sickness through chemical and surgical involvement than there is through education and incentive. Even though insurance won't cover it and you have to pay out of pocket, seeing a nutritionist may not be a bad thing. Maybe you can use it as a tax deduction or something. Not sure, just trying to find the silver lining. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() you could get your thyroid checked. I had a friend that couldn't lose any weight and she found that she had and under-active thyroid. She started taking medicine for it, and started losing weight right away. It's very common in women, especially after giving birth. At least that's what my Ob/Gyn doc told me. I had mine checked about a year and a half ago when I couldn't get my weight to budge. Mine ended up being fine. I started losing weight very quickly when I stopped tending bar at a place where we were allowed to drink on the job. I must have been drinking some serious calories! Alcohol is definitely something else that will keep the pounds on. |
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Runner | ![]() Join the Y. Seriously. Our Y has a RD on site. Yes, you have to pay to see her, but it's relatively inexpensive. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It's easy to say that you "eat well" but do you keep track of exactly what you eat to hold yourself accountable? Have you had somebody review that with you? You'd think that a nutritionist would be your best answer, but like any other profession, there are good ones and bad ones. Unfortunately, it's hard to discern for a lot of people. It doesn't have to be complicated either. Build each meal around a lean protein source. Eat fruits or vegetables with each meal and take in most of your carbs from them. Take in good fats in the form of nuts, olive/flaxseed/fish oils as well. Keep track of your calories. If it's not working, ADJUST what you're doing. Don't keep doing the same thing and expecting a different results. There are very few (if any) physiologic reasons why somebody can't lose weight. Good luck. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think that the key is finding the "tolerable" calorie deficit that you can stick with as long as it takes to achieve your weight loss goals. "Tolerable" means how hungry can you stand to be all day long as well as how well you can plan your meals and how well you can enforce your exercise plan over a long period of time with life going on. If you have more focus or fewer distractions, a higher defiicit is tolerable. Whatever the level you can tolerate, just make sure that it is really negative. Once you find a routine that gets you on a steady downward weight trend, even if it is just a half pound a week, stick with your routine like religion. You learn what you feel like when you are losing and you know you can stand it. The goal is to stay on the negative side every day for a long time so you don't have to lose the same pounds over and over.
Good luck Shellee. We know you can do it.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() hehe, got to love insurance that pays for my insulin, but not for the needles to inject it. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yeah, well, it should have been called Insurance System Rant, but I was kinda mad at my doctor too at the moment. Getting my Thyroid checked is a good idea. Now that I think about it, my mom takes thyroid pills so that's something I should look into. Things ARE moving in the right direction - just very, very, slowly. Of course, I would like faster results. Last time I trained for a half-marathon I lost about 30 pounds without too much trouble over the course of about 4 months. This time - I've dropped 5 pounds. The scale is making me crazy. I'm actually feeling pretty good about WW - I'm already eating more veggies and I'm liking how the whole structure of the plan works generally. I'm going to give it a couple of weeks - and then decide what to do next. And yeah, I know that paying for a nutritionist might be what I end up doing, it just makes me so MAD that my insurance won't pay for that. So ridiculous. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Check your inbox.... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm sure I'll get flamed, but look at this from the flip side. Should your health insurance be responsible for all prevantative medicine? Should they pay for your bike? Your running shoes? Where does it end? I think everyone could benefit from a nutrtional consult. Most of us could benefit from a personal trainer as well. They would make me a lot more fit and probably increase my life expectancy some. As the health care system gets more and more expensive and we spend 90% of the health care dollars at the end of life in the ICU on expensive care, it's no surprise to me that insurance companies aren't paying for some of these measures. If you think your health care costs are high now, imagine what they would be if every patient got a nutrition consult. I agree with Adventure Bear. Your physicians role was to help you assess whether the nutrtion consult was worthwhile and they did that. Now take the initiative if you feel it is worth it and make an appointment. |
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Runner | ![]() Lara - 2007-04-25 11:40 AM Can someone explain to me why my PPO won't pay for Birth Control pills?? Heck of a lot cheaper than maternity, labor, delivery, post pardum and infant care.... Mine does. |
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Resident Curmudgeon![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lara - 2007-04-25 10:40 AM Can someone explain to me why my PPO won't pay for Birth Control pills?? Heck of a lot cheaper than maternity, labor, delivery, post pardum and infant care.... Abstinence is cheaper still, though not as much fun. So why should your PPO pay for your recreation and not my race fees? Edited by the bear 2007-04-25 10:51 AM |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Abstinence is far less effective than BC pills. Fails at an alarming rate. I'd prefer to pay for a more effective method, thanks.
the bear - 2007-04-25 11:50 AM Lara - 2007-04-25 10:40 AM Can someone explain to me why my PPO won't pay for Birth Control pills?? Heck of a lot cheaper than maternity, labor, delivery, post pardum and infant care.... Abstinence is cheaper still, though not as much fun. So why should your PPO pay for your recreation and not my race fees? |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() girls paying $40 a month to have sex wow its just like being a guy. Atleast for our money we can get professional expertise. Yeah the medical insurance does suck in many many ways. How about this my denist did not listen to me about my tooth pain so the the tooth broke 1 week after I lost my insurance. In order to get it fix it would be about $800 a root and I needed 3 of them done. Ironicly if I had insurance even if they did not pay anything it would be only $600 a root. Your better off paying for insurance just for cheapier rates. As for preventive If there is a clear need like you are grinding your teeth at night I think it would be wise for them to pay for it. Teh grinding is a medical issue that will only result in costs in the future. As for your bike or race entries there are alot you are getting out of that than just costing them less. If you get injuried doing the tri they have pay for it so really it does mean it could cost them less in the long run. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Does insurance suck? absolutely. I can tell you your Dr has NO control over what your plan does or does not cover. He/She is probably more frustrated about it than you are trust me. The MO for insurance companies is to not pay for anything. They are FOR PROFIT. Complain to your insurance plan. You are the consumer of that product. Get everyone you know on your plan to complain. be the sqeaky wheel.
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lara - 2007-04-25 10:40 AM Can someone explain to me why my PPO won't pay for Birth Control pills?? Heck of a lot cheaper than maternity, labor, delivery, post pardum and infant care.... wait i thought you just admitted to secretly wanting another child??? |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Somehow the irony of Viagra being fully covered and birth control not being covered at all is not lost on me. *sigh* |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() phoenixazul - 2007-04-25 1:57 PM Somehow the irony of Viagra being fully covered and birth control not being covered at all is not lost on me. *sigh* Everyone know guys NEED sex. Women, not so much.
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