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You may need to bring your A game... methinks there's some amusing banterific competition brewing in the MG!

I think I could potentially waste too much time with this group ... less time in Cup of Joe more time in Evondo's Mentor group thread.

That's the spirit... 'best kept secret on BT' 

Oh I will... I want to ease in slowly (hahaha, hold your tongue on that one) so that I don't traumatize any of the new innocent ones right off the bat.

It's about time you showed up to the party!!!  Working in WI....no excuse!

For the rainy day runners...  If it is raining before you actually head out the door or you KNOW it is gonna rain on you (when the weather is cooler), do you wear rain gear? Rain jackets, maybe gortex gear, or something of the like?

In the summer, I don't mind getting wet... you add the cold/cooler temps into the mix and I become one pi$$ed off mama-jama!  Dry and cool/cold I will run my booty off.

If it is the gore-tex/rain gear, does it breath, is it comfortable, etc?

I rarely wear rain gear actually, unless it is down right pouring and cold.  But that plan only works cause my run is less then an hour and I am heading right to the shower with coffee in hand most times.  So I stay warm while I run and I don't give myself the chance to get cold.  If conditions are bad enough I do put on a waterproof jacket, which so happens to be my biking jacket as well.  But, that can get pretty miserable at times cause you really do get wet anyways cause you'll sweat so much.  So I only do it if warmth becomes an issue.  My threshold would be in the 30's and the rain be heavy.    

I don't have specific running rain gear but this morning I wore a pair of breathable water proof hiking pants that I wore over my running shorts. I also wore a columbia water proof wind breaker, and a pair of wool socks to keep my feet warm and to wick the moisture away. I was actually pretty comfortable but my hands did get cold so next time I will most likely wear some neoprene gloves.

The Justin's can tell you I am quite the delicate flower.... be careful not to traumatize me

Depends on your definition of "Delicate Flower".........

Keri I like you already.

uhhh yeah!  Things that make ya go hmmmmmmm!
KK can make me blush...

All this talk of mid-day working out made me want to get my bike in and it looks like I've got some catching up to do now...

I'm totally psyched, I might be buying a new/used computrainer for $650.  My friend's friend bought them for his company and he unfortunately got fired for it but is now selling them.  I'm told they've only been used 4-5 times.  I'll know for sure by Sunday.  If I do get it does anyone want to buy a slightly used cycleops fluid 2 trainer?

Wooot! On the Computrainer ~ I hope it works out Stan!  What-a-bargain!  The CT gives you power readings & such, right?  Buy the different courses and Ride On!   That's cool!

DUDE!!!  I know Ken er, I mean SANTA has been looking for a Cycleops Fluid Trainer for a sweet girl who has been VERY good this year maybe you could check to see if SANTA has finished his shopping

OR We could all take turns paying admission to use your CT.

That's pretty sweet deal! I'm out though, I like to avoid the trainer at all costs and thankfully down here I can for the most part

 I'm pretty sure it does, though I don't know the model number yet.  My friend is sending me the details..  My fingers are crossed..

Hey Eric, I know you didn't miss/skip the opportunity to answer a Power question from the previous page... We were all waiting for you to enlighten us on the uses of Power in training! lol!

The Power Guru shall speaketh.....

Rain gear is for wimps!  I wore my normal - running shorts, UA long sleeve shirt, hat and gloves.  Gloves were useless by the end of the run....actually everything was b/c I was soaked!  I do have a jacket I bought after the Houston marathon but I am afraid I would have been way too hot in that.

I guess I'm a wimp......

Justine.

Rain gear may be for wimps in Houston, but when the temps are in the 30's, it's a must.  I have a set of Nike rain gear that is pretty breathable.  I wear it over CWX tights and a heavy UnderArmor top.  The most important piece of clothing for me in any situation are the socks.  I'm a huge Sock Guy/Smart wool fan, but that is mostly because I love the designs.  I have some very cool Bad Kitty socks that are reserved for days I really need them. 

You bring up a good point, a PowerTap in and of itself will not help you if you don't know how to train with it.  My broad advice is there are many books and coaches that can help you with this. For my athletes that train with power they know how to race with power and train at the level I tell them... Some know the method behind the numbers but not all, it's not their job to it's mine

The most important data with the power meter is the power. HR has its benefits in certain situations, especially racing, but rarely for training although there are some tests that can be done to measure fitness with power & HR drift.

For racing, (so yes I race with it as well) it allows you to accurately pace yourself for longer bikes and regardless of the course, heat, humidity, headwind, tailwind, etc you will have your optimal bike split.  I won't use it for pacing in sprints but Olympic and up it makes sure that you're not pushing to hard in the beginning of the bike. Especially the longer HIM/IM races your RPE will feel very low in the beginning and you won't know you've over exerted until it's to late. I don't even set race goals based on mph anymore because it's pointless all I can control is the power I put to the pedals. My mph is determined by the course and weather on that day.

The other time a Powertap shines over HR/GPS is intervals which are a necessity to get big gains in biking after the intial base.  During shorter interval durations (3-8') your HR does not respond to the stress quick enough to give you an acurate indication of effort not to mention HR changes on a day-to-day basis due to weather, sleep, nutrition, etc...

For me personally it taught me to learn how to suffer on the bike, as bad as that sounds it was what allowed me to push above my comfort zone. During intervals pre-powertap I was slacking near the middle and never even knew it because RPE lies and since my HR was already elevated HR would remain stable giving me the sense I was working hard.

Once you establish your FTP you can create a power curve that says for a given interval duration you should push X. So when you goto train mph, HR, wind, heat, course doesn't matter all that matters is you push X for Y duration.

Clear as mud?



Edited by evondo 2009-12-17 3:46 PM

I know you have that Powertap in a shopping cart somewhere waiting to pull the trigger...

You ALL suck...
I'll be lucky to see any liquid preciptiation before April. Runnig outside for me this time of year includes snowshoes and a parka. even when it does rain I am lucky to see it in the mid teens (50-65f). Canada baaahhhh!!!

Spanx---- I got so much loose skin ( think Beluga whale during the swim) I wear my man spanx daily.



Edited by loeber 2009-12-17 4:19 PM