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 2011-06-13 12:15 PM in reply to: #3546317 |
Champion  6973      marietta |  Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closedtritiny - 2011-06-13 12:52 PM sdalessio - 2011-06-13 10:45 AM fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 9:49 AM dalessit - 2011-06-13 8:07 AM Happy Monday! Anyone have anything exciting going on this week? OBX on friday for a week!!!!!
I am so jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is OBX? Feeling like I should be jealous too but don't know why.
the outer banks of north carolina. beach house = hotties in bikini's!!!! that's why sam is jelous... she kim'd it. |
| 2011-06-13 12:20 PM in reply to: #3546386 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed swbkrun - 2011-06-13 1:10 PM fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 9:19 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-13 11:52 AM DougRob - 2011-06-10 9:21 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-10 11:21 AM TrevorC - 2011-06-10 8:08 AM anyone want to come for an ~80mile ride tomorrow in the rain?
When did you arrive in Seattle??? Birdy, are you still here?
I come and go... most of the time I am just entertained by reading everything.
As for racing.... NADA, ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING.... Haven't signed up for anything at all. I still go out and "train" with people that are much more motivated than me, but I am usually bringing up the rear. RP and I are going to do a 38 mile trail run (unsanctioned) in Sept with around 16000 feet of elevation gain/loss! Apparently there is some big race in the NW that some SWBKRUN MG'S are going to partake in next April and I need to be ready for that!!!! my secret weapon for the big race. if you try to pass us she'll knock you upside the head with that watch!
It's all about the "bling!" Thank you for not sharing the other picture. I am sure that made me look like a great parent! kyla said she's gonna post it. i can't have all the fun. |
Are you racing this year?
| 2011-06-13 12:22 PM in reply to: #3544828 |
Veteran 200 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks |
| 2011-06-13 12:23 PM in reply to: #3546157 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed swbkrun - 2011-06-13 10:52 AM DougRob - 2011-06-10 9:21 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-10 11:21 AM TrevorC - 2011-06-10 8:08 AM anyone want to come for an ~80mile ride tomorrow in the rain?
When did you arrive in Seattle??? Birdy, are you still here?
I come and go... most of the time I am just entertained by reading everything.
As for racing.... NADA, ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING.... Haven't signed up for anything at all. I still go out and "train" with people that are much more motivated than me, but I am usually bringing up the rear. RP and I are going to do a 38 mile trail run (unsanctioned) in Sept with around 16000 feet of elevation gain/loss! Apparently there is some big race in the NW that some SWBKRUN MG'S are going to partake in next April and I need to be ready for that!!!! Please don't turn RP into a non racing slacker....who will secretly go to with all of our questions? |
| 2011-06-13 12:35 PM in reply to: #3546427 |
Master 1478 Horseheads, NY | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 1:22 PM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Don't you have like 7 pairs of shoes in your basement!!!???!!!
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| 2011-06-13 12:41 PM in reply to: #3546455 |
Veteran 200 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed gdale - 2011-06-13 12:35 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 1:22 PM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Don't you have like 7 pairs of shoes in your basement!!!???!!!
HAHA More like 37, but those are basketball and fashion shoes |
| 2011-06-13 1:15 PM in reply to: #3546421 |
Master 2501 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 10:20 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-13 1:10 PM fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 9:19 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-13 11:52 AM DougRob - 2011-06-10 9:21 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-10 11:21 AM TrevorC - 2011-06-10 8:08 AM anyone want to come for an ~80mile ride tomorrow in the rain?
When did you arrive in Seattle??? Birdy, are you still here?
I come and go... most of the time I am just entertained by reading everything.
As for racing.... NADA, ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING.... Haven't signed up for anything at all. I still go out and "train" with people that are much more motivated than me, but I am usually bringing up the rear. RP and I are going to do a 38 mile trail run (unsanctioned) in Sept with around 16000 feet of elevation gain/loss! Apparently there is some big race in the NW that some SWBKRUN MG'S are going to partake in next April and I need to be ready for that!!!! my secret weapon for the big race. if you try to pass us she'll knock you upside the head with that watch!
It's all about the "bling!" Thank you for not sharing the other picture. I am sure that made me look like a great parent! kyla said she's gonna post it. i can't have all the fun. Moi???? (blinking innocently...) You only get to see Steve's baby if you bike up the hills getting to his house. No bike, no hills, no baby. |
| 2011-06-13 1:34 PM in reply to: #3546427 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! |
| 2011-06-13 1:36 PM in reply to: #3434069 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed RR is done. |
| 2011-06-13 1:42 PM in reply to: #3546577 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed kkcbelle - 2011-06-13 11:15 AM Well said.... You have to earn. I prefer to drive the hills and had I seen someone I knew yesterday I would have jumped in the car and thrown my bike away...fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 10:20 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-13 1:10 PM fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 9:19 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-13 11:52 AM DougRob - 2011-06-10 9:21 AM swbkrun - 2011-06-10 11:21 AM TrevorC - 2011-06-10 8:08 AM anyone want to come for an ~80mile ride tomorrow in the rain?
When did you arrive in Seattle??? Birdy, are you still here?
I come and go... most of the time I am just entertained by reading everything.
As for racing.... NADA, ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING.... Haven't signed up for anything at all. I still go out and "train" with people that are much more motivated than me, but I am usually bringing up the rear. RP and I are going to do a 38 mile trail run (unsanctioned) in Sept with around 16000 feet of elevation gain/loss! Apparently there is some big race in the NW that some SWBKRUN MG'S are going to partake in next April and I need to be ready for that!!!! my secret weapon for the big race. if you try to pass us she'll knock you upside the head with that watch!
It's all about the "bling!" Thank you for not sharing the other picture. I am sure that made me look like a great parent! kyla said she's gonna post it. i can't have all the fun. Moi???? (blinking innocently...) You only get to see Steve's baby if you bike up the hills getting to his house. No bike, no hills, no baby. |
| 2011-06-13 2:00 PM in reply to: #3546629 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed kt65 - 2011-06-13 2:34 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! that. i pay more attention to what my legs are telling me about the life cycle of the shoes rather than the number of miles. |
| 2011-06-13 2:44 PM in reply to: #3546629 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed kt65 - 2011-06-13 2:34 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! Is that just with the Kinvara's? That seems like it would get rather expensive quickly. LOL, hopefully Terps gets more miles than that out of hers or she would be going through a pair every 2 weeks or so. |
| 2011-06-13 5:16 PM in reply to: #3546838 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed dalessit - 2011-06-13 2:44 PM kt65 - 2011-06-13 2:34 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! Is that just with the Kinvara's? That seems like it would get rather expensive quickly. LOL, hopefully Terps gets more miles than that out of hers or she would be going through a pair every 2 weeks or so. I may have missed this conversation, but why do we think a tender midfoot can only be caused by worn out shoes? The foot is pretty complicated and there are a lot of tendons that connect at the bottom. By the way, are we talking bottom or top? Kind of matters..... |
| 2011-06-13 5:22 PM in reply to: #3546838 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed dalessit - 2011-06-13 12:44 PM So true! Luckily I pick them up for $60/pair, but it does the job. With my old shoes, I got 250 miles or more, but I also got heel pain, so $60 every 2 months is not so bad. Not sure why I go through them so fast, but I do most running on asphalt/pavement, maybe? I know the EVA foam is softer and less springy than say the Newton's, but no changing here while things are good. kt65 - 2011-06-13 2:34 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! Is that just with the Kinvara's? That seems like it would get rather expensive quickly. LOL, hopefully Terps gets more miles than that out of hers or she would be going through a pair every 2 weeks or so.  |
| 2011-06-13 5:31 PM in reply to: #3547118 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed SSMinnow - 2011-06-13 6:16 PM dalessit - 2011-06-13 2:44 PM kt65 - 2011-06-13 2:34 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! Is that just with the Kinvara's? That seems like it would get rather expensive quickly. LOL, hopefully Terps gets more miles than that out of hers or she would be going through a pair every 2 weeks or so. I may have missed this conversation, but why do we think a tender midfoot can only be caused by worn out shoes? The foot is pretty complicated and there are a lot of tendons that connect at the bottom. By the way, are we talking bottom or top? Kind of matters.....
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| 2011-06-13 5:36 PM in reply to: #3434069 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed ^^^ LOL!!!! jarrett just asked me what i'm laughing at this time. edit.. now jack is in my chair w/ me laughing at it. i don't think we're laughing at the same thing though. LOL!!!!! Edited by fattyfatfat 2011-06-13 5:37 PM |
| 2011-06-13 5:37 PM in reply to: #3434069 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed Dork ^^^^^ I'm not on a high horse, asking a legitimate question. What research can you site that points to shoes causing midfoot pain? |
| 2011-06-13 5:41 PM in reply to: #3547144 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed SSMinnow - 2011-06-13 6:37 PM Dork ^^^^^ I'm not on a high horse, asking a legitimate question. What research can you site that points to shoes causing midfoot pain? oh, i don't have horse in this fight.... ha! you of all people around here should know about that. |
| 2011-06-13 6:23 PM in reply to: #3547139 |
Veteran 200 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed fattyfatfat - 2011-06-13 5:31 PM SSMinnow - 2011-06-13 6:16 PM dalessit - 2011-06-13 2:44 PM kt65 - 2011-06-13 2:34 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 10:22 AM dalessit - 2011-06-12 2:51 PM GrapeJuice - 2011-06-12 1:41 PM Question. If my midfoot is a little tender after my runs now does that mean I need to get new shoes? I probably have about 200-250 miles on my current shoes cause I ran in them before I started using the BT equipment tracker. My feet were never sore or tender on runs before so I am assuming that's the case, just checking though. That's usually the indicator I use, if everythings good then all of a sudden your foot is sore and it's not an injury probably time to replace the shoes, though 200-250 miles is a bit early from my experience,. I thought that was early as well but I also read that body weight also plays a part and most running sites consider 180lbs+ a heavy runner and I am approx 193ish. I am going to get another pair this weekend and be more diligent with tracking and see how long theses last. Thanks Well, I'm considerably "shorter and lighter" than you, Grapejuice, and I have to replace my shoes every 170 miles. So, depending on what type of shoes you wear, the surface you run on, etc, your mileage may vary! Is that just with the Kinvara's? That seems like it would get rather expensive quickly. LOL, hopefully Terps gets more miles than that out of hers or she would be going through a pair every 2 weeks or so. I may have missed this conversation, but why do we think a tender midfoot can only be caused by worn out shoes? The foot is pretty complicated and there are a lot of tendons that connect at the bottom. By the way, are we talking bottom or top? Kind of matters.....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 2011-06-13 6:26 PM in reply to: #3547144 |
Veteran 200 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed SSMinnow - 2011-06-13 5:37 PM Dork ^^^^^ I'm not on a high horse, asking a legitimate question. What research can you site that points to shoes causing midfoot pain? Suzy, No research at all on my part just figured that it was the shoes. It is the bottom of my foot and I am a midfoot striker. I didnt think other causes cause i havent been over doing it in my training, atleast I dont think so. But your thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated |
| 2011-06-13 6:59 PM in reply to: #3547200 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 6:26 PM SSMinnow - 2011-06-13 5:37 PM Dork ^^^^^ I'm not on a high horse, asking a legitimate question. What research can you site that points to shoes causing midfoot pain? Suzy, No research at all on my part just figured that it was the shoes. It is the bottom of my foot and I am a midfoot striker. I didnt think other causes cause i havent been over doing it in my training, atleast I dont think so. But your thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated Look at this. I only include this to illustrate the anatomy of the foot. Many of your leg tendons attach at the bottom including your flexors. Do you feel like you have any calf, peroneal or shin tightness. This could cause soreness in the bottom of that foot. Or you could be like me right now. I bruised the 2nd metatarsal head which is at the bottom of the foot and hurts like the devil. Or you could have a stress reaction in one of your mets....not to scare you at all. So....where exactly on that foot is the pain. The midfoot is a big area, especially on your feet!! I would start by doing a little self diagnosis....use your roller on your calves/shins/peroneals and note tightness. Massage the area of your foot that is sore....dig in there.....how much does it hurt when you do that?? I'm no MD, but it's a start. It might be your shoes, but my guess is it isn't. |
| 2011-06-13 7:20 PM in reply to: #3434069 |
Master 1372 Tosa, WI | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed With George like speed, RR is finally up after a long day in the office: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=256439 Edited by badgerintx 2011-06-13 7:49 PM |
| 2011-06-13 7:48 PM in reply to: #3546157 |
Master 1372 Tosa, WI | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed swbkrun - 2011-06-13 10:52 AM As for racing.... NADA, ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING.... Haven't signed up for anything at all. I still go out and "train" with people that are much more motivated than me, but I am usually bringing up the rear. Birdy ..... Those of us that have been already been through this usually refer to this as the "Breeding and Blimping" training plan! Be Careful!!! |
| 2011-06-13 8:00 PM in reply to: #3434069 |
Expert 1038 Noosa | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed Got up early today before work and managed to get a 20k run, did it in exactly 2 hours at a nice relaxed pace. Felt good but could've done with a bit of nutrition for the last 3 km's, did the whole run with no food/water which wasn't that clever. Anyway, feeling good about my HM in 5 weeks. |
| 2011-06-13 8:19 PM in reply to: #3547200 |
Master 1841 Sendai, Japan | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN fast, furious, and closed GrapeJuice - 2011-06-13 9:26 PM SSMinnow - 2011-06-13 5:37 PM Dork ^^^^^ I'm not on a high horse, asking a legitimate question. What research can you site that points to shoes causing midfoot pain? Suzy, No research at all on my part just figured that it was the shoes. It is the bottom of my foot and I am a midfoot striker. I didnt think other causes cause i havent been over doing it in my training, atleast I dont think so. But your thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated
A couple tendons from your shin attach at the bottom of the foot and there are several more that are involved in toe movements. It could certainly be your shoes, but you may want to take a look at this:
I also rotate between two pairs of running shoes. It supposedly makes them last longer.
Edit--I see Suzy posted something along the same lines. Those are great diagrams of the foot (yep, I'm a geek). Edited by dcon 2011-06-13 8:23 PM |
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