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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fred Doucette - 2011-04-18 7:06 AM Swim done for me. Always slow the day after a long run as I think that my swim kick is much more fatigued. Caffeine? What's on for training today? What does your week look like? I don't drink coffee unless its before a key workout or race. While the science may be weak, it seems to work for me, especially when I save it for "special occasions." |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here's the elevation profile of my Saturday run. From Big Horn to downtown and back...about 750 feet down then back up. The first 3.5 miles were roughly 8:20's then 10:00's on the way back. It doesn't look like much but the climb plus heat plus fatigue from a 20 miler the previous day (oh and lots of boozing and staying up late) really kills the pace. SUFFER FEST! EMBRACE THE PAIN! (4-18-2011 11-39-30 AM.png) Attachments ---------------- 4-18-2011 11-39-30 AM.png (23KB - 15 downloads) |
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![]() I've been pretty steady at 10-12 hours per week for quite some time now. It hasn't been all tri focus though. I was mainly biking last summer, and mainly running over the past fall/winter...but the hours have been pretty consistant throughout the past 10 months or so. My biggest week will probably be in the last part of this month and the early part of may where I'll likely get into the 14 hour range with some good intensity thrown in there. |
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![]() Fred Doucette - 2011-04-18 4:33 PM OK, my week will be pretty heavy on hours. 15ish. That's a lot for me (I know others do 15 more routinely). I have averaged under 10 hours a week for the last few years and done well with this. My body is fatigued from the increase in training in my schedule, and the hope is that it's making adaptions. What is everyone in the group averaging in their training? What will be the biggest training week in your race build? Recovery week for me this week. 45 min bike ride was on my plan today. Lucky enough to have a nice, sunny day without a lot of wind. Didn't even get chased by any dogs. I am averaging between 7-10 hours a week. My biggest week will be in May with 10.5 hours. That is enough for me! Good luck with your volume this week. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My training has slowly ramped up since January:
Jan - 8-9 hrs/week Feb - 10 hours/week Mar - 14-15 hours/week April -12- 14 hours/week (work and travel has not allowed me to reach my goal this month)
Next week is a Peak of 20 hours then start to slowly taper for IM Texas
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jim and I must be using very similar plans. I've averaged 11.5 hours per week since January. Lately I've been in the 14-15 range. Unlike Jim, I'm peaking this week not next, and only 18 hours instead of 20. I'm REALLY looking forward to tapering! 50 minute swim tonight. The pool is closed for 2 weeks so I had to go to a different one. I did two 1000 meter TT's - averaged 1:36 per 100m on the first, 1:37 on the second. That puts me on par with my speed from last summer leading up to Vineman HIM. That puts me at 1:02 or 1:03 for 2.4 miles...but I think 1:05 is much more realistic considering the distance (1:40/100m pace). Who knows...I might get punched or kicked a few times which would surely slow me down. Okay, gotta watch the end of the Boston Marathon the off to bed I go! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fred Doucette - 2011-04-18 4:33 PM OK, my week will be pretty heavy on hours. 15ish. That's a lot for me (I know others do 15 more routinely). I have averaged under 10 hours a week for the last few years and done well with this. My body is fatigued from the increase in training in my schedule, and the hope is that it's making adaptions. What is everyone in the group averaging in their training? What will be the biggest training week in your race build? I've been about 8hrs since the beginning of Feb & ramping around 10 the last month. This week is a recovery and only 5 hours...which should feel pretty nice. Looking ahead at my plan, it appears the biggest week is a tad under 11 hours which surprised me because last week was 10. I suspect being a begginner plan, they try capping the hours to something reasonable, and as a first-time HIM'er, my 10 hour week did take a lot out of me. There is always the voices in the back of my head asking me if I think that will be enough volume/training for an HIM, but I have trust the plan!
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() With the exception of my vacation time, I've been pretty consistent around 7.5 hrs per week. Once I actually start HIM training then I guess this should increase a bit. But I need a plan first! |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fred Doucette - 2011-04-18 5:33 PM OK, my week will be pretty heavy on hours. 15ish. That's a lot for me (I know others do 15 more routinely). I have averaged under 10 hours a week for the last few years and done well with this. My body is fatigued from the increase in training in my schedule, and the hope is that it's making adaptions. What is everyone in the group averaging in their training? What will be the biggest training week in your race build? Both last week and this week will be about 22 hours, next week is a rest week so it will be in the 13-14 range. My biggest week will be around 26-27 hours (my bike overload week prior to IMLP). I tend to be on the high side in the volume discussion but much of my volume is done at aerobic endurance pace (essentially I'm trying to build the biggest engine possible and train my body to limit perepheral sysstem failure on race day) and I have lots of active recovery rather than rest days. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2011-04-19 8:03 AM Fred Doucette - 2011-04-18 5:33 PM Both last week and this week will be about 22 hours, next week is a rest week so it will be in the 13-14 range. My biggest week will be around 26-27 hours (my bike overload week prior to IMLP). Say WHAAAAAAAAA? You're a machine! How do you find the time??? |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dhopman - 2011-04-19 11:16 AM kaburns1214 - 2011-04-19 8:03 AM Fred Doucette - 2011-04-18 5:33 PM Both last week and this week will be about 22 hours, next week is a rest week so it will be in the 13-14 range. My biggest week will be around 26-27 hours (my bike overload week prior to IMLP). Say WHAAAAAAAAA? You're a machine! How do you find the time??? I generally about 2 hours before work and then get my second workout in during "lunch" -- there's a pool in the basement of my office building or after work. Generally training load on work days varies from an hour to just under 3. On the weekends, Saturday is long bike and T run day. Right now my long bike is about 5:15 followed by a :45 T-run and Sunday is a recovery swim, tabata intervals on the bike, long run day, so about 4 hours. My body responds really well to higher volume training. I'm a boring person, I train, work, eat, sleep and repeat. |
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![]() Ok...I don't feel so bad now. Sounds like I'm not the only one who uses most of their vacation to fit in extra training...LOL. can't we pick up bryan off of free agency? If Miami can sign Lebron, Bosh, and Wade, can't we sign Johnny, Fred, and Bryan? LOL. Off for a short run, then riding after work. Have a good day everyone. |
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Not a Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Generally, when training for either HIM or IM, most of my weeks are in the 10-13hr range. For a HIM, I probably don't go much beyond that (perhaps a few 'bike-heavy' weeks into the 14-15 area). For an IM, I attempt to do ~8 weeks in the 15-18 range. Currently, I am below what I would 'typically' do. Two reasons. One is just that I have been very busy with 'rest of life' which has cut into some of the workouts I would have otherwise wanted to do. The other is that since my focus is a duathlon, I have not had to worry about fitting in 3hrs/wk of swimming (though I've been trying to get that back into my training anyway). I'm still below where I would have liked to have been, but cannot be a consistently high-volume athlete--too many other demands on my time that have priority. |
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Not a Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() And, I should note, there really are many ways to do the 'work' required in training for long-course. There are top athletes who maintain 10-12 hour training schedules for the bulk of the time. If you do something for long enough and with enough quality, you can have very good results without doing 20-30 hrs/wk. Of course, if you have the time & desire, high volume is a pretty sure-fire way of having good success. Each way presents its own challenges for recovery and injury-avoidance. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Question for all you IM veterans: Can you walk me through how special needs bags work? It sounds like I'll drop off bags the day before the race...one for the bike, one for the run. They will be made available to me about half way through each of those legs, I put whatever I want in them, and am not guaranteed to get them back at the end of the day. Will I have to get off the bike or veer off course on the run to pick up these bags? Does someone know you're coming and hand them to you? Do people stack up at special needs just taking breaks causing mass congestion and confusion? What have you experienced? -Dave |
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Not a Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I believe you can drop your s/n bags off the morning of the race (this may vary from race-to-race, though). At LP, s/n is right along the bike & run courses. You stop and try to give your number to a volunteer who can get your bag for you. Depending when you arrive, it could be quite busy. However, I am not the best font of adivice on this topic as I have never used s/n. Oh, and I did get my bag back at LP. My sister was able to go back and find them after we finished. I think most people have been able to get theirs if they wanted them. But, as you noted, there are no guarantees you will ever see them again. |
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