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2014-03-08 4:17 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 3400m today (I don't always do 3000m workouts!) for total of 66,700m. Main set was 2 X 1000m with the last 25 of every 100m hard. 17:25 and 17:15, at the same RPE. You'd think I'd get tired, but I get faster. No clue why. Perhaps it takes me 2000m to warm up. Not a terribly hard workout; didn't want one as still kind of hung over from the trip. More "speed" on Monday. NOT in this pool (attempting to insert pic)! Edited by Hot Runner 2014-03-08 4:23 AM (13006156333_8d1dd03bfe_m.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 13006156333_8d1dd03bfe_m.jpg (27KB - 8 downloads) |
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2014-03-08 9:13 AM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 |
2014-03-08 9:17 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 |
2014-03-08 4:50 PM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Nice facility! Our actual pool isn't anything fancy but it is reasonably clean, six lanes, 25m. It used to be very dark in there for some reason but they've recently installed better lights so a pic might actually turn out. Really prefer LCM pools since I do a lot of distance sets, but rarely get the chance--only Saturday AM masters practice in the summers. My gym has a 25m outdoor pool but quite difficult to swim in--no lanes or lap times, only about 3 lanes wide, so it's pot-luck; sometimes dodging kids with super soakers and swim lessons. I use it only during school vacations if I'm in town. |
2014-03-08 6:15 PM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 We are getting at least 1 more LCM pool in town maybe 2 .... they want a 2nd at the university so that would make 2 double LCM facilities plus a single... |
2014-03-08 8:30 PM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 4000+ each of the last two days. Friday was a stroke based set. My hands an fingers are tired. |
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2014-03-09 3:20 PM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by Hot Runner 3400m today (I don't always do 3000m workouts!) for total of 66,700m. Main set was 2 X 1000m with the last 25 of every 100m hard. 17:25 and 17:15, at the same RPE. You'd think I'd get tired, but I get faster. No clue why. Perhaps it takes me 2000m to warm up. Not a terribly hard workout; didn't want one as still kind of hung over from the trip. More "speed" on Monday. NOT in this pool (attempting to insert pic)! My parents bought a house when I was ten that had a pool that looked like that--frogs, snakes, tons of tadpoles. It was quite a project getting that thing rehabilitated :) We have 3 pools in our town that can be SCY or LCM. They're all pretty good, but I'm not too picky about pools yet either. My favorite one is < 400 yds from where I work, so that's nice. |
2014-03-09 3:24 PM in reply to: switch |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1
May not be the best timing in the year for something like this, but would anyone in this group be interested in a 30 swims in 30 days challenge? Or maybe 21 swims in 21 days? I'm thinking that a "swim" would have to be at least 1200yds (maybe 1500). Days off and doubles would be ok. We would post our sets and the purpose for the swim. |
2014-03-09 6:59 PM in reply to: switch |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Not possible for me due to work hours and pool access. Pool is only available for faculty Monday, Tuesday, Thursday PM and Saturday. Swimming every day would mean sacrificing bike or run time--I just don't have it in my schedule-- and would be pretty silly, esp. since I'd have to use the gym pool three days a week. There is often no way to get in a real workout owing to numbers in the pool and no lap lanes/times. So count me out. To be honest, I just don't see the point. I'm usually not losing out to the OA winner on the swim, and generally at the front of my AG. Even debating whether to do a run focus--I feel like the area where I really have big gains to make is on the bike. |
2014-03-09 8:23 PM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by Hot Runner Not possible for me due to work hours and pool access. Pool is only available for faculty Monday, Tuesday, Thursday PM and Saturday. Swimming every day would mean sacrificing bike or run time--I just don't have it in my schedule-- and would be pretty silly, esp. since I'd have to use the gym pool three days a week. There is often no way to get in a real workout owing to numbers in the pool and no lap lanes/times. So count me out. To be honest, I just don't see the point. I'm usually not losing out to the OA winner on the swim, and generally at the front of my AG. Even debating whether to do a run focus--I feel like the area where I really have big gains to make is on the bike. I completely understand. Your swim is much more solid than mine, and I'm not biking at all right now :) I don't know if it would make sense for people with a strong swim background. I got into the pool 6/7 days this week, and I feel like some things are clicking for me right now. I'm just curious to see if it that kind of consistency will make additional gains. I'll probably do it even in nobody else bites.
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2014-03-09 8:27 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Hot Runner Not possible for me due to work hours and pool access. Pool is only available for faculty Monday, Tuesday, Thursday PM and Saturday. Swimming every day would mean sacrificing bike or run time--I just don't have it in my schedule-- and would be pretty silly, esp. since I'd have to use the gym pool three days a week. There is often no way to get in a real workout owing to numbers in the pool and no lap lanes/times. So count me out. To be honest, I just don't see the point. I'm usually not losing out to the OA winner on the swim, and generally at the front of my AG. Even debating whether to do a run focus--I feel like the area where I really have big gains to make is on the bike. I completely understand. Your swim is much more solid than mine, and I'm not biking at all right now I don't know if it would make sense for people with a strong swim background. I got into the pool 6/7 days this week, and I feel like some things are clicking for me right now. I'm just curious to see if it that kind of consistency will make additional gains. I'll probably do it even in nobody else bites.
I don't think I could do this time-wise or shoulder wise. But, I will say, that when I was swimming 4x/week, I made way bigger gains than with 3x/week. The extra day was usually just a short one ~1500m, but the extra time sure made a difference. Oh, yeah, I am just over 64000m for the year. Edited by bcraht 2014-03-09 8:27 PM |
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2014-03-09 8:40 PM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 3500m ... 95 700 Mixed bag today. 8 x 50 @ 1.15 holding under 31 on all. Finally decent weather here (+10 C this weekend) |
2014-03-09 8:58 PM in reply to: bcraht |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by bcraht Yes, it's amazing how the extra day(s) make a difference, even if they're not big volume. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Hot Runner Not possible for me due to work hours and pool access. Pool is only available for faculty Monday, Tuesday, Thursday PM and Saturday. Swimming every day would mean sacrificing bike or run time--I just don't have it in my schedule-- and would be pretty silly, esp. since I'd have to use the gym pool three days a week. There is often no way to get in a real workout owing to numbers in the pool and no lap lanes/times. So count me out. To be honest, I just don't see the point. I'm usually not losing out to the OA winner on the swim, and generally at the front of my AG. Even debating whether to do a run focus--I feel like the area where I really have big gains to make is on the bike. I completely understand. Your swim is much more solid than mine, and I'm not biking at all right now :) I don't know if it would make sense for people with a strong swim background. I got into the pool 6/7 days this week, and I feel like some things are clicking for me right now. I'm just curious to see if it that kind of consistency will make additional gains. I'll probably do it even in nobody else bites.
I don't think I could do this time-wise or shoulder wise. But, I will say, that when I was swimming 4x/week, I made way bigger gains than with 3x/week. The extra day was usually just a short one ~1500m, but the extra time sure made a difference. Oh, yeah, I am just over 64000m for the year. That's quite a nice swim number for the year! |
2014-03-09 9:03 PM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by simpsonbo 3500m ... 95 700 Mixed bag today. 8 x 50 @ 1.15 holding under 31 on all. Finally decent weather here (+10 C this weekend) What % effort are those 50s for you? Why did you choose that RI? Not challenging, just trying to learn :) |
2014-03-09 9:25 PM in reply to: switch |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Pretty close to an all out sprint, so about 98%. If it was 100% sprint they would be 50 fast/50 easy each cycle on 3:00. 1.15 with no recovery swim allows for nearly all out sprinting and limits the recovery. Slightly over the 1:1 work:rest |
2014-03-09 10:10 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by switch Originally posted by bcraht Yes, it's amazing how the extra day(s) make a difference, even if they're not big volume. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Hot Runner Not possible for me due to work hours and pool access. Pool is only available for faculty Monday, Tuesday, Thursday PM and Saturday. Swimming every day would mean sacrificing bike or run time--I just don't have it in my schedule-- and would be pretty silly, esp. since I'd have to use the gym pool three days a week. There is often no way to get in a real workout owing to numbers in the pool and no lap lanes/times. So count me out. To be honest, I just don't see the point. I'm usually not losing out to the OA winner on the swim, and generally at the front of my AG. Even debating whether to do a run focus--I feel like the area where I really have big gains to make is on the bike. I completely understand. Your swim is much more solid than mine, and I'm not biking at all right now I don't know if it would make sense for people with a strong swim background. I got into the pool 6/7 days this week, and I feel like some things are clicking for me right now. I'm just curious to see if it that kind of consistency will make additional gains. I'll probably do it even in nobody else bites. I don't think I could do this time-wise or shoulder wise. But, I will say, that when I was swimming 4x/week, I made way bigger gains than with 3x/week. The extra day was usually just a short one ~1500m, but the extra time sure made a difference. Oh, yeah, I am just over 64000m for the year. That's quite a nice swim number for the year! The extra days most certainly help! Especially with the skill involved. I'm interested. I wonder if less than a 1 per day average might work better? It wouldn't sound as nice, but would be a LOT more practical for more people. I could make a go of it, but very few other people could. Something like this would seem to be a very good idea for many. And probably very soon, before seasons really begin to kick in. Otherwise, probably more like next off-season. 12,000+ in the last 3 days now, and 20k+ for the week. Tired, but not *too* bad considering. Edited by brigby1 2014-03-09 10:11 PM |
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2014-03-10 7:55 AM in reply to: switch |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 I think I would be a considerably faster swimmer if I swam more than three times a week; however, given the demands on my time, and having three sports, I have a horrible feeling I'd actually be a slower triathlete! I have really struggled with the bike since starting tri and quite honestly still suck at it. I still think anything over 15-16 mph is "hard". It just does not come naturally to me, I think the way many people claim to struggle with swimming, or running. This season is really an experiment in how far I can get with a relative focus on the bike. (Relative meaning I still can't actually bike outside or do long rides any day but Sunday, but I'm generally biking 4X per week instead of my usual 2 to (sometimes) 3. If I don't get substantially faster (faster enough to make it worth my while) by the end of the summer, I'll probably go back to just doing what I like most, which is running and swimming! It is, after all, a sport/hobby, not my job. |
2014-03-10 8:01 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Another 3,000m for a total of 69,700m. (Would have done the extra 300, but pool was closing. I started late due to several after-work interruptions and barely finished on time.) One of Sara McLarty's "strength/speed" days. Some pulling with paddles, main set was 15 X 100m (supposed to be on 2:30 but I did 2:15 so I could actually finish the workout) with 75m sprint and 25m easy. I did the free pretty much all on 1:30, which for me is a pretty tough sprint as that includes 25m very easy. I did #5, 10, and 15 as IM's in about 1:50. Don't know if anyone else does this but it's another one of my counting techniques. If I'm doing big sets of 100's, I'll do every 4th, 5th, or 6th one as an IM with a little longer interval. It not only helps me keep track but uses some different muscles. I find I can hold form longer if I periodically throw in an IM. For some reason it always makes my free feel smoother. |
2014-03-10 9:34 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 1362 Jenison, MI | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Bad week due to being a little bit under the weather, stress from work, and a bit of training malaise. Only managed two swims for a total of 4K last week. Hoping to pick it back up this week. |
2014-03-10 9:49 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by brigby1 Cool. Ben, what do you think the swim "requirement" should be? What distance for a minimum "swim" and how many/week? Originally posted by switch Originally posted by bcraht Yes, it's amazing how the extra day(s) make a difference, even if they're not big volume. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Hot Runner Not possible for me due to work hours and pool access. Pool is only available for faculty Monday, Tuesday, Thursday PM and Saturday. Swimming every day would mean sacrificing bike or run time--I just don't have it in my schedule-- and would be pretty silly, esp. since I'd have to use the gym pool three days a week. There is often no way to get in a real workout owing to numbers in the pool and no lap lanes/times. So count me out. To be honest, I just don't see the point. I'm usually not losing out to the OA winner on the swim, and generally at the front of my AG. Even debating whether to do a run focus--I feel like the area where I really have big gains to make is on the bike. I completely understand. Your swim is much more solid than mine, and I'm not biking at all right now :) I don't know if it would make sense for people with a strong swim background. I got into the pool 6/7 days this week, and I feel like some things are clicking for me right now. I'm just curious to see if it that kind of consistency will make additional gains. I'll probably do it even in nobody else bites. I don't think I could do this time-wise or shoulder wise. But, I will say, that when I was swimming 4x/week, I made way bigger gains than with 3x/week. The extra day was usually just a short one ~1500m, but the extra time sure made a difference. Oh, yeah, I am just over 64000m for the year. That's quite a nice swim number for the year! The extra days most certainly help! Especially with the skill involved. I'm interested. I wonder if less than a 1 per day average might work better? It wouldn't sound as nice, but would be a LOT more practical for more people. I could make a go of it, but very few other people could. Something like this would seem to be a very good idea for many. And probably very soon, before seasons really begin to kick in. Otherwise, probably more like next off-season. 12,000+ in the last 3 days now, and 20k+ for the week. Tired, but not *too* bad considering. Think we could start this weekend? How long should it go? Three weeks? A month?
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2014-03-10 11:45 AM in reply to: switch |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Cool. Ben, what do you think the swim "requirement" should be? What distance for a minimum "swim" and how many/week? The extra days most certainly help! Especially with the skill involved. I'm interested. I wonder if less than a 1 per day average might work better? It wouldn't sound as nice, but would be a LOT more practical for more people. I could make a go of it, but very few other people could. Something like this would seem to be a very good idea for many. And probably very soon, before seasons really begin to kick in. Otherwise, probably more like next off-season. 12,000+ in the last 3 days now, and 20k+ for the week. Tired, but not *too* bad considering. Think we could start this weekend? How long should it go? Three weeks? A month?
To keep it a challenge to accomplish, yet do-able for more than a few, would guess an average of at least 4 days a week, but probably not more than 5. What if the minimum was more along the lines of making 20 minutes or 1,000? I like 1500, but that's a good size workout for some and might get some more if it fits inside a 30 minute lunch workout. Then for the duration of the challenge, I can see a couple things. One would be to go for one week, just to challenge people to fit it in, pushing for more like at least 5-6 days or something more aggressive. Or at least 3 weeks to a month at the previous rate to get more directly to what you want in the improved swimming. |
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2014-03-10 2:40 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by brigby1 Great input Ben. I'll put something up soon.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Cool. Ben, what do you think the swim "requirement" should be? What distance for a minimum "swim" and how many/week? The extra days most certainly help! Especially with the skill involved. I'm interested. I wonder if less than a 1 per day average might work better? It wouldn't sound as nice, but would be a LOT more practical for more people. I could make a go of it, but very few other people could. Something like this would seem to be a very good idea for many. And probably very soon, before seasons really begin to kick in. Otherwise, probably more like next off-season. 12,000+ in the last 3 days now, and 20k+ for the week. Tired, but not *too* bad considering. Think we could start this weekend? How long should it go? Three weeks? A month?
To keep it a challenge to accomplish, yet do-able for more than a few, would guess an average of at least 4 days a week, but probably not more than 5. What if the minimum was more along the lines of making 20 minutes or 1,000? I like 1500, but that's a good size workout for some and might get some more if it fits inside a 30 minute lunch workout. Then for the duration of the challenge, I can see a couple things. One would be to go for one week, just to challenge people to fit it in, pushing for more like at least 5-6 days or something more aggressive. Or at least 3 weeks to a month at the previous rate to get more directly to what you want in the improved swimming. |
2014-03-11 8:24 AM in reply to: switch |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 The new gym's pool had a crack in it, so they're having to get that fixed. In the meantime I went back to my old gym to get some yards in. I'm keeping it short this week to make sure I'm ready for race day. 2000 yds bringing my total to 36,230m. |
2014-03-11 12:20 PM in reply to: switch |
475 | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 Originally posted by switch
May not be the best timing in the year for something like this, but would anyone in this group be interested in a 30 swims in 30 days challenge? Or maybe 21 swims in 21 days? I'm thinking that a "swim" would have to be at least 1200yds (maybe 1500). Days off and doubles would be ok. We would post our sets and the purpose for the swim. Normally I would love to but I also can't get to the pool but 3-4 times per week due to children, pt job, and other sports. I am also following a training program and bikes and runs are getting longer. Sounds like fun, though!! |
2014-03-11 12:27 PM in reply to: midwesttrimom |
475 | Subject: RE: 50 Miles of Swimming by MAY 1 2100 today and at a total of 44, 344 for the year so far. Lets see, what is that in miles... I guess only about 25 miles. Wow, long way to go and this month is going to get ugly with surgery and a spring break trip with my kids (and no husband). I may have to do the 21 swims in 21 days in order to catch up. |
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