Fred D Mentor Group Part III (Page 112)

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ETA: that was pretty lame for my 4000th post... 

I made a few adjustments and was able to do my 5' test on the trainer by using virtual power via TR.  Ended up at 363 watts and probably could have managed 380 as I finished the last minute at 430.  Virtual power seems a bit too high, and it felt more like 310-320, with me being capable of 330-340. 

20' test on Thursday.  Given how high virtual power seems to be outputing, I'll likely shoot for 300, which would be more equivalent to 270ish.

Are you going to be using the numbers you get? Sounds like you don't trust them much.

This (surprised Sears carry it).

http://www.sears.com/defeet-un-d-shurt-long-sleeve-base-layer/p-0000000000000002140200000000000005268023P

I've worn it from cycling to skiing - I wouldn't swap it for anything.  I rode in -3C with strong winds on Saturday, and wore this + a jersey = good to go.  I've ridden down to -15C with it.  Hands and feet failed long before my core every felt cold.

The key, as pointed out above, is to have something wind resistant as well.  If I need to wear a base layer, then it also means I need something to help stop the wind.  I have a good Sugoi jersey that does that, or I'll wear a vest or jacket.

One other thing.  This particular brand is incredibly lightweight and thin, which is an additional plus.

No...I won't be using the numbers except for point of reference on improvement.  Somewhere along the line I'm pretty sure I'll figure out that X watts of virtual power on the trainer is somewhat equivalent to Y watts on my PT outdoors.

I talked to a coworker that used to live in Maui and she mentioned that the ride to Hana is extremely beautiful, but the shoulder is very minimal.  The ride out to Lahina on the other hand is also nice, but there is a large well paved shoulder that is wide enough to fit a car pulled over and not block traffic (so I assume about 8 feet).

x2 on Under Armour...I just got my hubby a shirt and he rode last week, no problems at 42 degrees with that and his bike jersey. Can also run in it. I wear a similar Nike base layer shirt under my bike kit, but I'm a wuss and still wear the arm warmers too.

I need some practical advice....  I've been doing tris since 2005 ish, lost some weight, got in shape, etc.  My wife has not. I tried gentle nudging, but I know her very well, and just try to be an example of what you can do.  Of course, my OCD and obssessiveness sometimes take that in another direction and turns her off from teh process, but aside from that.

She's dabbled in fitness.  Swam a bit and did a swim leg of a HIM relay,did one sprint tri in 2009 or so.  But I swear she never once looked up her results.  Foreign to me (I know exactly where she placed, she has no idea)!  Races never stuck tho.  She walks some with her friend as her exercise.

So she calls me today asking whether it's feasible to complete a HM in May 2013, basically coming off the couch.  She got an American Heart Assoc email with a training group, etc.  I want to encourage her, so I said "of course...."  but now I don't know.  The training program starts officially in Feb, so I qualified it by saying if she starts now.

The HM has a 3.5 cutoff.  I worry that she'll train and miss the cutoff and just get discouraged.  I also don't want to discourage her by saying she can't do it.  Is the bite a little too big, and maybe start with a 10K?  I need to stay objective on this and remove considerations of what I want for her, so I am not sure I am approaching it with the right amount of distance, so thought I'd ask all of you.

So, if your friend/SO/family member came and asked you the question, what advice would you give to encourage the activity but not discourage the progress?  BTW, there is no 10K available for this race/program

Any and all advice welcome.

Here's the text from the AHA site:

What is Start Training?
Train to walk or run a half marathon with Start Training! No experience is necessary; we have volunteer coaches who will help you every step of the way. Make a difference in your own life while raising funds for the millions of Americans of all ages whose lives are instantly and profoundly changed by heart disease and stroke.

Beginning February 2, 2013, coaches will hold weekly Saturday morning trainings with other participants to train for the OC Half Marathon on May 5, 2013.

Chris you described Tina pretty well.  She wanted to do a HM as well and I developed a plan for her and she stuck to it.  She had a couch to HM thing going as well with just barely enough time.  I ran with her as often as I could around my own training and just basically supported her in any way I could.  She did get pretty tired of the training about half way through and I am pretty sure half the time she ran was only cause I was going out with her. I suspect you mind encounter the same push back with your wife about half way through. 

She goes in and out of training and it drives me crazy but if I push in any way shape or form she will go in the opposite way so when she gets the bug I just support and when she loses the urge I just shut my mouth (hardest thing ever).  Course she thinks I am crazy for working out so regularly. 

No, she won't care about her time.  WEIRD!!!!  anyway...

There is apparently a structured Saturday group workout that I believe has a walk and or walk/run portion.  She also has a friend she walks with, but no idea how hard she goes.  During the week, we could get up and go down to the beach, I could run :45 while she does her thing.  So we might be ablt to do some stuff kinda together.

The bad thing is the HM is the day after Wildflower long.  If she does it I am definitely 100% going to sherpa for her (it's funny, I started saying "we can do it togeth---  wait, it's not about me").  So if she does I'll either beg off WF - have not signed up - or come home after the race.

Chris, another option to being in the same area as her is every once in awhile taking an easy day and just doing her workout with her. Don't call it an "easy" day, but maybe an enjoyment day, or something like that. No analysis of what she does. Just do it and have fun.

And on another note entirely, I have been logging workouts, but switched it to friends only (I think). Don't like the entire world watching, but anyone in a group I'm in should be ok. Have had some other people ask about it before, but didn't want someone to try figuring it out and coming up with the wrong idea. Prefer to discuss it. Today the focus was 2 hrs on the trainer, used Sufferfest's The Wretched and also tried for 2 x Extra Shot: The Long Scream for the efforts. Wretched's 35 min - 290, ES:TLS #1 30 min - 288, and cut ES: TLS #2 in the middle due to leg muscles feeling it. Happy with this even though I cut last effort short. Things are coming back nicely.

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It sounds like they'll be doing Galloway run/walk and low-mileage, which is fine for where she's at. She already walks, and if she can walk a 17-minute mile (there's no "if" there, considering 20 is a slow amble) she's good to go.

Her question to you is, is it feasible. Considering that the Galloway programs, and the training program that she wants to be a part of, say it's fine for everyone including with no experience, honestly, that question has already been answered.

As for Wildflower ... well, make that decision at the last minute you can.

AAAAAH whaddaya mean, I'm not your friend?

Chris, you've gotten some good advice I think.  I have nothing to add really, just encourage/support her but don't push.   My wife sometimes goes through a period of time where she struggles with continuing her training if she has a bit of a setback and I have to walk the fine line between just helping her re-organize and telling her to suck it up.    She does the same for me I'm sure!

At the pool for swim practice this morning and we had to do a set of 10x100 kick on 2:05 - *GAG*.  I was only making the times with a few seconds to spare so it was close to a 1000 straight kick.

Well good on ya for doing it. Ouch. Was there a choice re. WHICH kick? Kickboard or no? Ergh, 100 kicks, blech. 50 is plenty for an interval. But 20 of them would really suck, too.

The only stipulation was that it be kick.  I mixed it up with flutter kick, dolphin kick and whip kick (probably 50% of it).

Catwoman - 2012-12-19 7:07 AM The fact that she is interested in this group is a great thing. Buy her a cute running outfit/watch etc., for Christmas. Support her by stepping back and letting her discover her inner athlete. You may end up being surprised. BTW- be careful what you ask for..

Great advice! I've done only two HM, but in both of them, I saw walkers finish in about 3 hours -- that was with little/no running. They looked like they were having a great time -- 4 or 5 women, in matching t-shirts, chatting, laughing, encouraging each other. I think she can have a great time. The hard part for me in the enterprise would be keeping my mouth shut. That may be your struggle, too. I don't know. Just encourage and support. Don't lecture or criticize.

And the cute running outfit/watch is an excellent idea for Christmas. If my husband comes on here asking what he can get me for Christmas . . . Just saying. You can point him to the Athleta website.

Oh, dear. We're facing the same thing here today. I'm trying to decide when to get out for my run. I won't be able to do it this evening because we will likely have blizzard conditions (mostly because of the ridiculously high winds blowing the half inch of snow we will likely get around and around, kind of like a snow globe). The wind is already whipping up out there, even though it's 40 degrees. The high this afternoon before temp drops is expected to be 50, so I'd really like to plan the run at that time.

Okay. I'm over thinking this. Just get out there, right???