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Wow - that is a very cool tool!  Agreed that the ride analysis and overall pages are awesome.  More data!  Now, to figure out how to use it rather than just enjoy it…  

Score is 96.51, FWIW.  Anyone seen a way to show which 100 segments they use to calculate it?  Was trying to see how performance on a segment compared to the field (per VV's scoring) and what the top 100 looked like...

Matt

I'm not sure what you trained like when "younger," but you've handled a ton of volume this year without injury (perhaps that's because of the way you've approached running?) - so the fitness is well earned, in any event.

I wonder if not working as much on the top end speed just won't be an issue with a 70.3.  Running that race fast is still a very different type of effort than, say, the kick at the end of an open 5k (or even an open 5k).  I suspect that the relative decrease of focus on intensity might actually get you to the HIM starting line with more in the tank (as you were able to train with high volume and "targeted" intensity) than if you'd been doing fewer miles and a lot more intensity running - with the attendant risk of injury and such.

I know that I'm coming around to that approach to running after the last year (Arend, it seems you've trained more along those lines this year as well?).  I absolutely love track work and interval training, but I think I have to start looking at it as dessert rather than the main course in my running...

Tear it up this weekend!

Matt

Yeah, feel that at a decent tempo, but not quite up at threshold. Feels great letting things out, but it's not so hard that I'm straining to keep it going. At least not for awhile. As for the recovery runs, are you talking actual recovery from them or combining that with easy runs? Some of the ones I do at a very easy pace do feel awful, but I'm also rather tired going into them. The idea is to just get some motion going and loosen things up. On easy runs then, in the past I have felt not as effective on them, but think there have been several reasons for that though not sure I can remember all of them at the moment. Had been noticing too much in the specifics of the motion and since the stride was shorter at a slower speed, it felt a bit wrong or less effective. Could be more used to pushing the pace too much, or if the knee has been hampering training and you're not as fast it may feel a bit off at the slower speeds. Also, people like us tend to like pushing the pace or effort more, and it's going to feel off when we're not doing so.

Thanks.  Yep - just click on the score when in the Your Segments page and it puts them in descending order (sort of a punch list for skewing the data in your favor!).  

Agreed that the law of small numbers could bite you wrt their scoring.  Probably most "accurate" (for whatever it actually tells you) with a larger data set.  Hey, that's just a good reason for some bike focused vacationing!

All I know is that I'm screwed once we move to Austin.  Was just looking on Strava for cool segments and noticed that LA had the KOM - on only SOME OF THE SEGMENTS!  WTF?  I'm going to beat the dudes that beat the dude?  Not bloody likely.  

Matt

Some people have gone faster than this guy named "A Starky" around here.

Thanks guys. That's what it seemed like.

RR

Went for a 2.5 hour ride with Tab today.  She was on her tri bike and I figured I would ride my roadie to force me to work a bit harder (because that's such a good idea after not riding for a month).   Well my lack of bike fitness showed up and by the end she kept dropping me.  Didn't help that she was chasing Strava segments and I was going over threshold trying to stay in her draft at times!

Originally posted by Fred D

Originally posted by JAYCT haha, check this thing out. I added it to my training log. Honestly, the segment chasing thing has become a bit of a joke around me. We don't have a 5 mile climb at 7% that 3000 people have done so it you have to sort of take it for what it is worth. I see guys tailgunning fast group efforts to just come around at the end and take the KOM. Pretty lame in my opinion but whatever. I don't care and I know that if you want to really measure yourself you have to toe the line in a race. I have a few pages of KOMs that I know some stronger guys near me could wipe out by the end of the month if they cared. They don't care about strava segments though, they care about winning races and they don't ride to chase KOMs on strava...so have to take it for what it is worth.... It is pretty cool though. I especially like seeing my previous results on segments over time.

Yes, I've seen that a lot when I do group rides.

Strong guy starts near the back of the pack and then makes his way to the front, and even if he doesn't finish first the segment first he gets the fastest time as he 'started' the segment later.

Again, it's all for fun, even though I sometimes take it seriously lol.

I love Strava, but don't take it seriously.  It's more for my own amusement, finding new routes to ride, and challenging friends that I know personally.  I couldn't care less if a guy on a moped took all my KOMs.  

If I had a choice between having 1000 KOMs but no other ride data, or having all my ride data in Strava, but no KOMs...I'd take the latter in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by Fred D

Originally posted by JAYCT haha, check this thing out. I added it to my training log. Honestly, the segment chasing thing has become a bit of a joke around me. We don't have a 5 mile climb at 7% that 3000 people have done so it you have to sort of take it for what it is worth. I see guys tailgunning fast group efforts to just come around at the end and take the KOM. Pretty lame in my opinion but whatever. I don't care and I know that if you want to really measure yourself you have to toe the line in a race. I have a few pages of KOMs that I know some stronger guys near me could wipe out by the end of the month if they cared. They don't care about strava segments though, they care about winning races and they don't ride to chase KOMs on strava...so have to take it for what it is worth.... It is pretty cool though. I especially like seeing my previous results on segments over time.

Yes, I've seen that a lot when I do group rides.

Strong guy starts near the back of the pack and then makes his way to the front, and even if he doesn't finish first the segment first he gets the fastest time as he 'started' the segment later.

Again, it's all for fun, even though I sometimes take it seriously lol.

I love Strava, but don't take it seriously.  It's more for my own amusement, finding new routes to ride, and challenging friends that I know personally.  I couldn't care less if a guy on a moped took all my KOMs.  

If I had a choice between having 1000 KOMs but no other ride data, or having all my ride data in Strava, but no KOMs...I'd take the latter in a heartbeat.

LMAO.  

A riding friend from one of the LBS's and his wife bombed a TON of segments moto-pacing each other with a moped (was clearly going for segments, as no sane person would moto-pace those particular roads just for race training - which would have been legit).  Several towns worth of segments are now untouchable!  

He got teased so much for blatantly chasing segments that they had to leave the state!    Of course, he gets quoted in Bicycling and Triathlete magazine now, whereas I, ummm, do not.   

About the only time I do well on segments is after the season (or if there happens to be a looooong one that coincides with a training interval/hill or the like).  I definitely have pushed for a few segments in the fall, when my riding becomes less structured and more just for fun.  That can actually be a hoot solo, but certainly not being "that guy" on a GROUP ride!

Matt

ETA an important "not"

RR here:  http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/RaceLog/races-view-container.asp?raceid=267507 

(wish I could edit that thing and make a "RR" link without the long title - very slick when other non-Luddites manage that one)

Matt

I know otehr people have had back issues.   Monday morning walking into work I dropped something and when I bent down to pick it up, whack!  Got one of those shooting pains things in the lower back.  I get this occasionally, and it takes a couple days to go away (with some acupuncture help) but damn it's uncomfortable.

Here you go Matt....

Matt’s Awesome Race Report

Last intense bike for me today.  It was a windy one with mostly head winds (like 17 miles), right echelon and a few miles of tail wind.  Regardless I was hammering.   I do better with a right echelon wind then left echelon wind.  I cant figure that one out.  Anyway with this short taper I was a bit worried, but I think I'll be ok.

Anyone else racing this weekend?

DOH!

Funny I checked VeloViewer again and noticed you can click on tabs for which bike you are riding.

My overall 2014 score is currently 92.90.  But that's including my road bike that I commute on (usually with a backpack, U-lock, etc, weighing me down).

I clicked on my P4 and those rides were a 96.05