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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Reno8 - 2010-02-17 8:11 PM xWhatever... Yes!! Good luck! Go go go go go!!!!!fattyfatfat - 2010-02-17 2:27 PM kickitinok - 2010-02-17 12:34 PM I'm racing in my first 5K this weekend! Woohoo! Texas Motor Speedway Sprint Du for me this Sunday - 2mi / 15mi / 2mi! First race since October! Goal time is 1:30 - hopefully my run will be about 20:00 on each leg... good luck!~! and andy roll down the track when your in the turns. Good luck to you both this weekend |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() CyborgQueen - 2010-02-17 6:01 PM ****Training question ahead**** For tomorrow, I have a bike ride planned. Zone 1 for 10 minutes, then Zone 2 for 20 min, then WD for 5 min in Zone 1. Uh...how do I figure out my zones? *face turns away in shame* Aw, DJ, no shame neccessary. I forgot if you train with a heart rate monitor or not? If you don't know your zones yet, don't worry, maybe just go by RPE (rate of perceived exertion) Zone 1 is like a 4-5/10 in effort and Zone 2 is more like a 6-7/10... I think to get your zones you may need to do a 20 minute time trial where you go ALL OUT (after a warm up) and then take the average HR for that 20 minute all out effort (good to do where there are no stop signs or cars-possibly on the trainer, but if you can find a nice flat road like that, it's probably more realistic. (in Vegas that should be NO problem ![]() Once you find that number there are calculators even on this website that can calculate your zones. Maybe one of the bike gurus in our MG can help with this. Kim |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You have mastered the art of the positive attitude. And in such a short time! NICE. PS I am not a coach, but I do have one. He is not for doing a lot of bricks and only as a build up to a race. What's the rationale? CyborgQueen - 2010-02-17 2:35 PM I took a look at my training schedule as per coach, got a huge discount, for 15 weeks coaching, especially with the schedule issues that I've been having. No one-on-one type of thing or anything intensive like VO2 max, stroke teaching, technique fine tuning type of thing. Just support and help me get the training in and endurance as I can't seem to solve that issue. WHOA baby..lots of bricks! :-) Well, technically, I probably will do one in early morning, then another in the late afternoon, out just put the two together. Way more than I expected, so I trust the coach! I think I have a good base to start off of, and it's not as much longer in distance as the stuff I've been doing, just more volume, and I am SO EXCITED to be rockin' it! (Suzy - Is that positive enough? Can you feel my excitement through my words all the way to Hawaii?! ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SSMinnow - 2010-02-17 7:48 PM You have mastered the art of the positive attitude. And in such a short time! NICE. PS I am not a coach, but I do have one. He is not for doing a lot of bricks and only as a build up to a race. What's the rationale? CyborgQueen - 2010-02-17 2:35 PM I took a look at my training schedule as per coach, got a huge discount, for 15 weeks coaching, especially with the schedule issues that I've been having. No one-on-one type of thing or anything intensive like VO2 max, stroke teaching, technique fine tuning type of thing. Just support and help me get the training in and endurance as I can't seem to solve that issue. WHOA baby..lots of bricks! :-) Well, technically, I probably will do one in early morning, then another in the late afternoon, out just put the two together. Way more than I expected, so I trust the coach! I think I have a good base to start off of, and it's not as much longer in distance as the stuff I've been doing, just more volume, and I am SO EXCITED to be rockin' it! (Suzy - Is that positive enough? Can you feel my excitement through my words all the way to Hawaii?! ![]() Technically - in my mind a brick is when you do a workout back to back with very little time in between. So, having to look at my training schedule again, they're not bricks per se. :-) Only one is. The rest seem that I can do one in AM and the other PM. I saw your logs, it's kind of similar to what you do, one session early, and the other later. I only got two weeks' schedule. It seem that she's putting me on a little bit more training than normally do. I'm going to give this schedule a shot, and if I feel it's taking a toll, I can tell her to cut it back a little bit. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kt65 - 2010-02-17 7:08 PM CyborgQueen - 2010-02-17 6:01 PM ****Training question ahead**** For tomorrow, I have a bike ride planned. Zone 1 for 10 minutes, then Zone 2 for 20 min, then WD for 5 min in Zone 1. Uh...how do I figure out my zones? *face turns away in shame* Aw, DJ, no shame neccessary. I forgot if you train with a heart rate monitor or not? If you don't know your zones yet, don't worry, maybe just go by RPE (rate of perceived exertion) Zone 1 is like a 4-5/10 in effort and Zone 2 is more like a 6-7/10... I think to get your zones you may need to do a 20 minute time trial where you go ALL OUT (after a warm up) and then take the average HR for that 20 minute all out effort (good to do where there are no stop signs or cars-possibly on the trainer, but if you can find a nice flat road like that, it's probably more realistic. (in Vegas that should be NO problem ![]() Once you find that number there are calculators even on this website that can calculate your zones. Maybe one of the bike gurus in our MG can help with this. Kim I do have a HRM, and did the LT - the avg HR was 170ish (I say "ish" because I 'kinda' screwed up the LT on Sunday). And...no it was HARD to find a FLAT road. Vegas is in a Valley, so it's basically in the mountains! :-) But I was able to find a really good area to do LT, silly me to turn around. Wish me luck! EDIT: I found my HR zones through TrainingPeaks (which I use for coach purposes only). I will keep that in mind, but I doubt it will work 100% the time because the place I'm going to tomorrow has hills, I'll probably use RPE more. Either way, I'll put the HR zones on my Garmin and see how I do. I have never done this before. I usually just ride the mileage, and just go ignoring the RPE, and making sure that I don't go all out (ie HR above 165). Edited by CyborgQueen 2010-02-17 10:36 PM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() CyborgQueen - 2010-02-17 8:01 PM ****Training question ahead**** For tomorrow, I have a bike ride planned. Zone 1 for 10 minutes, then Zone 2 for 20 min, then WD for 5 min in Zone 1. Uh...how do I figure out my zones? *face turns away in shame* http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=926 Here is more information on LT Testing, links to other HR testing information, and most importantly a link to the BT calculator which will automatically break out your zones and give you more information than you can ever use...... don't stress about your LT test number being off a little bit. Plug in your number anyway and then ride or run with the zones for a couple of weeks. You will know by your RPE during your workouts when you need to retest. Remember, as you get fitter and start building a base, you will need to re-test and re-calculate every couple of weeks to keep your zones accurate. These re-tests are a great time to pat yourself on the back with your improvements or realize that you are not working hard enough during your workouts and may need to change some things up to keep improving. Works great and great tools. Gotta Love BT! Dino Edited by badgerintx 2010-02-18 7:53 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() LOL, I used 220 - age for my HR zones for a couple years and it worked out pretty well. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() here's a tip. 16x100 w/10" rest btw (1:33 - 1:35) is NOT the same thing as 16 x 100 on 1:45. don't ask your coach if it is because then your workout will magically be updated to the latter. even after an easy 750 w/u i was crushed physically and mentally by the fourth rep. closest i've ever come to quitting on a workout. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 9:25 AM here's a tip. 16x100 w/10" rest btw (1:33 - 1:35) is NOT the same thing as 16 x 100 on 1:45. don't ask your coach if it is because then your workout will magically be updated to the latter. even after an easy 750 w/u i was crushed physically and mentally by the fourth rep. closest i've ever come to quitting on a workout. Why was it so much harder? If you hit the targeted pace, you would be doing them on 1:45 or better. Is it because if you don't hit the targeted pace, you still get the 10 sec rest? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() gdale - 2010-02-18 8:45 AM fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 9:25 AM here's a tip. 16x100 w/10" rest btw (1:33 - 1:35) is NOT the same thing as 16 x 100 on 1:45. don't ask your coach if it is because then your workout will magically be updated to the latter. even after an easy 750 w/u i was crushed physically and mentally by the fourth rep. closest i've ever come to quitting on a workout. Why was it so much harder? If you hit the targeted pace, you would be doing them on 1:45 or better. Is it because if you don't hit the targeted pace, you still get the 10 sec rest? i'm still trying to get my head around it. but i'm told by my coach, who was a D1 swimmer at florida, thats its more of a mental thing as you go from a set with rest vs a set on a given time. so you push harder. the first two i was in at 1:28. waaayyyy to fast. linda, rob, kyla.... why is it soooo much harder!!!!?????!!!!! :-) Edited by fattyfatfat 2010-02-18 8:54 AM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am really struggling with my PT/Garmin combo. I did a 45 minute ride last night and the PT head unit said it was 14.4 miles, the Garmin said 11. I have ensured all wheel calculations are correct, but for some reason my garmin always reads less than the PT, and I believe the garmin is incorrect. When I look at my graph in Garmin connect, the speed one shows a ton of zeros, which would make sense to why the distance is so off. Garmin Log I see the 310 drop my wattage at times, but cadence still registers. One would think that if it is reading cadence, speed should be working as well, unless somehow the 310 is pulling power/speed from the hub? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TrevorC - 2010-02-18 8:29 AM dante's girlfriend from clerks. ha! how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TrevorC - 2010-02-18 8:29 AM sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? The neck, shoulders, and lower back were good. I stayed in aero through all the microbursts (40 total), FTP sections and SLDs (I hate those!) but tended to sit up for drinking, relaxing for a few and wiping sweat off. But not really sitting up b/c I needed or wanted to just to change things up. So I guess my point is I felt really comfortable and had no pain. I feel good this morning too. Tony HA b/t the sniffles and the weather, he has been a grumpy old bear and no help except for the occasional smart a*s comment. ;-) |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jvanis - 2010-02-18 9:54 AM I am really struggling with my PT/Garmin combo. I did a 45 minute ride last night and the PT head unit said it was 14.4 miles, the Garmin said 11. I have ensured all wheel calculations are correct, but for some reason my garmin always reads less than the PT, and I believe the garmin is incorrect. When I look at my graph in Garmin connect, the speed one shows a ton of zeros, which would make sense to why the distance is so off. Garmin Log I see the 310 drop my wattage at times, but cadence still registers. One would think that if it is reading cadence, speed should be working as well, unless somehow the 310 is pulling power/speed from the hub? Jeff, Not sure. mine is wired so I have a shark fin receiver I need to make sure is very close to the hub or I get 0's also. Have you replaced the batteries in the hub since you got it? Another option is to ask over on ST, probably more folks running that combo with some ideas. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 8:52 AM gdale - 2010-02-18 8:45 AM fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 9:25 AM here's a tip. 16x100 w/10" rest btw (1:33 - 1:35) is NOT the same thing as 16 x 100 on 1:45. don't ask your coach if it is because then your workout will magically be updated to the latter. even after an easy 750 w/u i was crushed physically and mentally by the fourth rep. closest i've ever come to quitting on a workout. Why was it so much harder? If you hit the targeted pace, you would be doing them on 1:45 or better. Is it because if you don't hit the targeted pace, you still get the 10 sec rest? i'm still trying to get my head around it. but i'm told by my coach, who was a D1 swimmer at florida, thats its more of a mental thing as you go from a set with rest vs a set on a given time. so you push harder. the first two i was in at 1:28. waaayyyy to fast. linda, rob, kyla.... why is it soooo much harder!!!!?????!!!!! :-) Is it because if you don't hit the targeted pace, you still get the 10 sec rest? I think that is why. I find intervals tough too b/c if you miss a time w/ a set rest ok so what you sit there for 10-20 sec. and think guess I should swim harder next time. But if you are doing intervals, you are focused on the clock so it's like finish lap, stare at the clock and go on a set time. 2 sec. rest or 20 sec. rest. I am usually closer to the 2 sec. rests so they become harder and harder w/ less rest. If you are getting too much rest then your interval time is too high. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TrevorC - 2010-02-18 9:29 AM sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? Are you watching the TV straight ahead or to the side? LOL, I tried to play the Wii a few weeks ago while on the trainer and I was at about a 100 degree angle to the tv and my neck was sore. Otherwise you might want to check your fit, neck shouldn't get sore on the trainer. It's one thing when you have your aero helmet on and pushing Z4 for 20 miles in a TT to have it sore, vs. the trainer where you aren't moving. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jvanis - 2010-02-18 8:54 AM I am really struggling with my PT/Garmin combo. I did a 45 minute ride last night and the PT head unit said it was 14.4 miles, the Garmin said 11. I have ensured all wheel calculations are correct, but for some reason my garmin always reads less than the PT, and I believe the garmin is incorrect. When I look at my graph in Garmin connect, the speed one shows a ton of zeros, which would make sense to why the distance is so off. Garmin Log I see the 310 drop my wattage at times, but cadence still registers. One would think that if it is reading cadence, speed should be working as well, unless somehow the 310 is pulling power/speed from the hub? does the PT give you an avg speed? and i knoe the answer to this but your garmin cadence sensor is two piece. one on the crank and one on teh chain stay right. i'm looking at your xml now and see the zero's but thy make sense. lemme know |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jvanis - 2010-02-18 8:54 AM I am really struggling with my PT/Garmin combo. I did a 45 minute ride last night and the PT head unit said it was 14.4 miles, the Garmin said 11. I have ensured all wheel calculations are correct, but for some reason my garmin always reads less than the PT, and I believe the garmin is incorrect. When I look at my graph in Garmin connect, the speed one shows a ton of zeros, which would make sense to why the distance is so off. Garmin Log I see the 310 drop my wattage at times, but cadence still registers. One would think that if it is reading cadence, speed should be working as well, unless somehow the 310 is pulling power/speed from the hub? and how can your max speed be 10.123996 for a 45:02 minute ride but you ride for 11 miles? edit. dude this xml says your avg speed was 6.4696.... for the 2613 data points. even i go faster than that. Edited by fattyfatfat 2010-02-18 9:21 AM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dalessit - 2010-02-18 8:07 AM TrevorC - 2010-02-18 9:29 AM sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? Are you watching the TV straight ahead or to the side? LOL, I tried to play the Wii a few weeks ago while on the trainer and I was at about a 100 degree angle to the tv and my neck was sore. Otherwise you might want to check your fit, neck shouldn't get sore on the trainer. It's one thing when you have your aero helmet on and pushing Z4 for 20 miles in a TT to have it sore, vs. the trainer where you aren't moving. I did have a fitting last season. Could I be a better/different biker now with a year under my belt? I just find that after 5 minutes or so I need to get off the aerobars and stretch myself back up. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TrevorC - 2010-02-18 10:29 AM dalessit - 2010-02-18 8:07 AM TrevorC - 2010-02-18 9:29 AM sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? Are you watching the TV straight ahead or to the side? LOL, I tried to play the Wii a few weeks ago while on the trainer and I was at about a 100 degree angle to the tv and my neck was sore. Otherwise you might want to check your fit, neck shouldn't get sore on the trainer. It's one thing when you have your aero helmet on and pushing Z4 for 20 miles in a TT to have it sore, vs. the trainer where you aren't moving. I did have a fitting last season. Could I be a better/different biker now with a year under my belt? I just find that after 5 minutes or so I need to get off the aerobars and stretch myself back up. yeah 5 mins you need to get that fixed. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dalessit - 2010-02-18 9:34 AM TrevorC - 2010-02-18 10:29 AM dalessit - 2010-02-18 8:07 AM TrevorC - 2010-02-18 9:29 AM sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? Are you watching the TV straight ahead or to the side? LOL, I tried to play the Wii a few weeks ago while on the trainer and I was at about a 100 degree angle to the tv and my neck was sore. Otherwise you might want to check your fit, neck shouldn't get sore on the trainer. It's one thing when you have your aero helmet on and pushing Z4 for 20 miles in a TT to have it sore, vs. the trainer where you aren't moving. I did have a fitting last season. Could I be a better/different biker now with a year under my belt? I just find that after 5 minutes or so I need to get off the aerobars and stretch myself back up. yeah 5 mins you need to get that fixed. why? he's got pga_mike beat. ha! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 10:36 AM dalessit - 2010-02-18 9:34 AM TrevorC - 2010-02-18 10:29 AM dalessit - 2010-02-18 8:07 AM TrevorC - 2010-02-18 9:29 AM sdalessio - 2010-02-18 6:03 AM Still waiting for my final bike report but my ride went well last night. It felt pretty comfy and I did not have trouble holding my position. And my feet did not start burning. The big test will be riding for several hours and seeing how stable I am on the open road. Only thing that I may need to be adjusted is my elbow - knee spacing. I was expecting to wake up w/ some bruises on my knees since I whacked my elbows a few times pretty hard. Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I amstill searching for a snow free space. Hopefully the sun and wamer temps will help. how did the neck feel? and stiffness? Exercises? Tony help you out? Are you watching the TV straight ahead or to the side? LOL, I tried to play the Wii a few weeks ago while on the trainer and I was at about a 100 degree angle to the tv and my neck was sore. Otherwise you might want to check your fit, neck shouldn't get sore on the trainer. It's one thing when you have your aero helmet on and pushing Z4 for 20 miles in a TT to have it sore, vs. the trainer where you aren't moving. I did have a fitting last season. Could I be a better/different biker now with a year under my belt? I just find that after 5 minutes or so I need to get off the aerobars and stretch myself back up. yeah 5 mins you need to get that fixed. why? he's got pga_mike beat. ha! Working with him also. Going to try to get him to my coach for a fit. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DJ - here is a follow up page from BT about learning your zones on the run and bike. It also gives you a chart that compares RPE to heart rate zones. There is a zone calculator, lots of definitions, and other great pieces of information. Here is the chart and the link. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=633RPE/HR Z1 - Zone 1 or Recovery
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