SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED (Page 154)

dalessit - 2010-02-18 8:40 AM

Working with him also.  Going to try to get him to my coach for a fit.

TrevorC - 2010-02-18 10:43 AM uuhhh help me out here??

TrevorC - 2010-02-18 9:43 AM uuhhh help me out here??

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 10:47 AM

funny a$$ guy.  someone you and i would get along great w/.   this is kinda funny.

dalessit - 2010-02-18 8:48 AM

oh, did you mean on the pga_mike reference or you neck being sore?  I am so confused.

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 8:52 AM

i'm still trying to get my head around it.  but i'm told by my coach, who was a D1 swimmer at florida, thats its more of a mental thing as you go from a set with rest vs a set on a given time.  so you push harder.  the first two i was in at 1:28.  waaayyyy  to fast.

linda, rob, kyla.... why is it soooo much harder!!!!?????!!!!!   :-)

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 9:16 AM

and how can your max speed be 10.123996 for a 45:02 minute ride but you ride for 11 miles?

edit.  dude this xml says your avg speed was 6.4696....  for the 2613 data points.  even i go faster than that.

jvanis - 2010-02-18 11:00 AM

Well I cannot get to the garmin connect page right now for some reason its giving me an access denied, hopefully work did not block it for me.

I surely hope I am not that slow.  My BT workout came from the 310 and shows 11 miles for the 45:02, My LYC showed something like 14.41 in 45 mins which is much more realistic, the 0s in speed do not really make sense to me, the workout was something like ride 10 minutes at 65-70%, then 5x 20seconds 105-115% with 40 seconds recovery at 65% etc.  I was constantly moving, plus even Garmin shows that I am hitting 22+ MPH on the graph.  For this workout I would assume my average speed was 19.x

If you have the xml could you upload it somewhere that I can see it, still cannot get into garmin connect

jvanis - 2010-02-18 12:00 PM

Well I cannot get to the garmin connect page right now for some reason its giving me an access denied, hopefully work did not block it for me.

I surely hope I am not that slow.  My BT workout came from the 310 and shows 11 miles for the 45:02, My LYC showed something like 14.41 in 45 mins which is much more realistic, the 0s in speed do not really make sense to me, the workout was something like ride 10 minutes at 65-70%, then 5x 20seconds 105-115% with 40 seconds recovery at 65% etc.  I was constantly moving, plus even Garmin shows that I am hitting 22+ MPH on the graph.  For this workout I would assume my average speed was 19.x

If you have the xml could you upload it somewhere that I can see it, still cannot get into garmin connect

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 1:24 PM my .02 on the graphs.  they look pretty.  about it.  go the data.  

tony open it in excel

edit... sorry... YES THAT------>>>> "Are you using cadence from the hub or crank w/magnet?"   which is why i was asking about the sensor in my first post.   this can/will make a difference.  possibly 3 miles.

kkcbelle - 2010-02-18 11:00 AM

Can't help you there, buddy... Maybe it's mental? I always take the rest time and turn it into an interval, if for no other reason than it helps me keep track of how many 100's I've done on a set like that! But yeah, I could see how suddenly knowing you HAVE to come in by 1:35 to get your :10 rest sort-of jacks you up and causes you to push harder, thereby tiring yourself out quicker. I say do the sets with intervals, though. That's how the Big Boys and Girls swim. (Just kidding, of course -- there is NO SHAME in doing sets with rest instead of on intervals!!!)

Sorry to hear you almost bailed on it. Sometimes we have those days. I had one yesterday on my bike, too.

I think I get to do a 2K tt in the pool today -- woot! I'll likely be swimming while my kids do family swim (one lane is for lap swim). If I have to share with more than one person I'll wait to do the tt.

 

 

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 1:24 PM my .02 on the graphs.  they look pretty.  about it.  go the data.  

tony open it in excel

edit... sorry... YES THAT------>>>> "Are you using cadence from the hub or crank w/magnet?"   which is why i was asking about the sensor in my first post.   this can/will make a difference.  possibly 3 miles.

Tobey91 - 2010-02-18 10:14 AM One thing I have been working on is strengthening my core.  I have felt that it am loose in my cage and strengthening my core will help all three sports. 

Had a great core workout last night with trainer.  Started, for example, in plank position with feet suspended 12 inches off the floor via TRX straps, and the trainer forced me to hold put my hands on the flat side of a BOSU half ball (i.e. the thing that is a BOSU ball on one side and a flat surface on the other).  Then did side planks on one elbow and feet in TRX straps, and the other hand extended straight up.  Etc.  Finished with me on my back with legs straight up in the air, and him shoving my legs down straight or to the left or to the right, and me having to resist to prevent them from reaching the floor and getting them back up straight in the air. 

Here are some examples:

http://community.fitnessanywhere.com/blogs/mfp_interviews/archive/2009/08/19/video-exercise-plank-progression.aspx


Boy did I sleep well after that.  First time in weeks of not having insomnia.

dalessit - 2010-02-18 12:37 PM

Not for cadence, but it would explain why cadence is still there while speed and watts are 0.

When mine drops signal I get same value for cadence/watts/speed because I measure from the hub, not the crank magnet.

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 1:33 PM

EXACTLY.  and then if you come in at say 1:41, you're screwed!  I'll be a BigBoy like you one day I hope!!!  2k TT.  HA!  IM really kicking in now huh!?!

fattyfatfat - 2010-02-18 1:44 PM

right on. 

but when jeff posted this in his original question, "I see the 310 drop my wattage at times, but cadence still registers.  One would think that if it is reading cadence, speed should be working as well, unless somehow the 310 is pulling power/speed from the hub?"

so if its reading speed from the cadence sensor and all those zero's are there it will drop the speed, hence mileage down.

btw ns1:Value4 is you heart rate. 

jvanis - 2010-02-18 1:22 PM I was told on garmin forums that it pulls in the following order:

1. Power sensor speed (for a rear wheel power sensor)
2. GSC10 speed
3. GPS speed

1. Power sensor cadence (from a crankset power sensor, not PowerTap hub)
2. GSC10 cadence.
3. PowerTap hub cadence.

Since I have the GSC10 it would make sense that cadence displays correctly.  I just have the PT hub and not an external CycleOps one.

Cadence: From GSC10 unit/magnet on crank arm (more accurate than from hub alone)
Speed: PT Hub

Batteries were replaced when I got the hub, so only a month or so ago.

I had thought about removing the GSC10, but that would only result in my data being skewed for distance, power, and cadence then. 

The reason I lean towards it being a Garmin issue is that my LYC properly reports data, does not drop connection with the hub during the workout etc. 

gdale - 2010-02-18 1:31 PM I can't remember if any of the Texas MG peeps are from Austin or not but I hope everyone is safe from that crazy plane crash down there!