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 2010-06-23 1:09 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
Expert  770    Long Island, NY |  Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official ThreadNot I. Not for a couple of years when both kids are in school. That, and I need to work on having more control over the chaos that is my life. I'm not there yet. |
| 2010-06-23 1:19 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread majorily off topic, but anyone else in the NE feeling this earthquake? crazy....my desk has shaken like 3 times.... nothing major, but i hear it is all over the Northeast |
| 2010-06-23 1:35 PM in reply to: #2939043 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread bryancd - 2010-06-23 12:53 PM Hijack: That was the most exciting soccer game I have ever watched! Hijacking doesn't exist in this thread. This thread is the greatest thread in BT History!! BT'ers for hundreds of years to come will research and study this thread. |
| 2010-06-23 1:42 PM in reply to: #2939300 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread cusetri - 2010-06-23 2:19 PM majorily off topic, but anyone else in the NE feeling this earthquake? crazy....my desk has shaken like 3 times.... nothing major, but i hear it is all over the Northeast DOW JONES NEWSWIRES ...Some television reports indicate that the tremors may have been worst in Quebec and in eastern Ontario. A television report says the U.S. Geological Survey is saying that southern Ontario was hit by an earthquake that measured 5.5 on the Richter scale. December 2012 is right around the corner |
| 2010-06-23 1:46 PM in reply to: #2939300 |
Master 1920 Ann Arbor, MI | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread cusetri - 2010-06-23 2:19 PM majorily off topic, but anyone else in the NE feeling this earthquake? crazy....my desk has shaken like 3 times.... nothing major, but i hear it is all over the Northeast Felt it here in MI- my room was moving back and forth. I thought I was going crazy! It made me feel really dizzy for a while. Weird! |
| 2010-06-23 4:11 PM in reply to: #2939248 |
Veteran 233 Madison, New Jersey | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread PennState - 2010-06-23 2:00 PM BTW, as I have said many times before I am not going in for LP 2011. Who aside from Josh is likley in for 2011. Yes I know it's too early, just making conversation  I'm out for 2011 but planning on signing up for IMWI for 2012. |
| 2010-06-23 4:52 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
Expert 1244 New York | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Just doing my part to further along our journey to 200 pages. Thanks for the helpful link about the bike course. Even though I rode parts of it when I was up there, it's really great to have a strategy on how to ride it on race day. Also, I'm glad everyone shared info on their tapers. I feel like I've got a better idea on how to do it well (and I didn't realize I should be feeling crappy those last two weeks! Good to know! lol). The heat right now is just killer. Went for a pretty hot'n'sweaty (read: miserable) run today. Blech. Hope race day is better...very little shade on that run course...
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| 2010-06-23 6:10 PM in reply to: #2939886 |
| Veteran 215 | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Me too. NO ironmans next year for me. I need a break. I bumped up to this distance way too fast and am really slow. I think I can benefit from going back down to shorter distances with more intensity. Plus today was my first 6 hour ride and I don't really care for those  It was going quite well but it just got so stinkin hot and humid and I could feel the heat radiating from the road and I was low on water. NOt to mention the toll it takes on the home front. |
| 2010-06-23 6:58 PM in reply to: #2939993 |
| Master 1485 | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread I won't be doing Lake Placid in 2011. There are too many other races and places to go. I am in for St. George in 2011 and will probably do Cozumel as well. |
| 2010-06-23 7:29 PM in reply to: #2939176 |
Master 3546 Millersville, MD | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread JorgeM - 2010-06-23 1:37 PM JoshKaptur - 2010-06-23 12:14 PM It helps tremendously... THANK YOU. I'm curious (and a tiny tiny bit skeptical) of the conclusions you formed based on my logs. I would call my volume/cycles life-related, not training/fatigue related (working late, vs. unable to do workout because too sore). But I have tremendous respect for your insights. You basically have me worried that I'm a little to biased/blind to see these things in myself (which is why most people are not capable of self-coaching well). I didn't look at your logs hence the word "guess" and the phrases "given the little info" and "this is just a general suggestion" Nevertheless, I do think most age group athletes tend to over taper doing the 3 week taper thingy. The above suggestion is just based on what I've seen worked for different athletes of different abilities but in no way it was meant to be something you should definitively do. Based on your tapering for other races and how fast your recover from different sessions/sport you can determine if that might work or what should be best for you. Thanks for the clarification... I had misunderstood you as saying "you" take 2 days after a run, etc to mean that I, Josh Kaptur, seem to indicate that in my logs. |
| 2010-06-23 7:31 PM in reply to: #2939141 |
| Master 3546 Millersville, MD | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread cusetri - 2010-06-23 1:26 PM JoshKaptur - 2010-06-23 1:14 PM JorgeM - 2010-06-23 11:12 AM JoshKaptur - 2010-06-22 8:08 PM I'm at a decently high volume of training, but go to great pains to space the long workouts and the hard workouts, such that I can tell you I'm virtually never "feeling it" the next day. I can't remember the last time, other than after a race, where I felt a workout was compromised by the workouts I had done 1-3 days prior. And that is while running up to 50mpw and often biking over 200mpw. Jorge... do you mind sharing your "gut" on my taper? As an FYI - I generally feel good and do well in my B races where I have only a few day taper. It makes me very wary of the heralded 3 week taper in so many plans. If you usually don't feel drained or super fatigued during the week besides after very long/hard sessions then you are doing a good job at managing your load. Still, you can focus on learning how long it usually takes your legs to be back to normal after a 5+ hr long ride or a 2:30+ hr run or a 2-3 hr tempo ride or 1 hr run. This can help you learn your recovery cycle when "in shape" as I expect an athlete to be 5 weeks off Ironman. Also by looking at your logs, you could learn for instance that it takes you 2 days to be back to normal after a long 5 hr ride while it might take you 24 hrs after a tempo/threshold ride. OTOH, it might take you 3 days to recover from a long run and a few days from a tempo run. In addition, you can learn that on average you can go with an intense training load for 2 weeks before you need to drop it to recover. This gets more specific as you might be able to log significant training load differently for all 3 sports, for instance maybe you can handle a high load for 3 weeks on the bike, 4 on the swim and only two on the run. Using the above, it can help you map your tapering schedule, but given the little info I have from you I would guess that 3 week taper cycle is too long for you. (It is for most athletes) Maybe you can consider a 2 week taper in which you could start dropping run volume a bit over 2 weeks out, drop bike volume within 2 weeks and swim volume in the last week. This is just a general suggestion; only you with the information available can really set your tapering plan. I hope that helps! It helps tremendously... THANK YOU. I'm curious (and a tiny tiny bit skeptical) of the conclusions you formed based on my logs. I would call my volume/cycles life-related, not training/fatigue related (working late, vs. unable to do workout because too sore). But I have tremendous respect for your insights. You basically have me worried that I'm a little to biased/blind to see these things in myself (which is why most people are not capable of self-coaching well). What's the difference between life-related and training related in regard to resulting fatigue? to me, they are the same....stress (and how it effects you) from life is no different then stress from training. everything we do effects everything else Sorry - my bad. I had thought Jorge had concluded my recovery paces based on how long I take between workouts, how many long weeks I have between shorter weeks, etc. I was simply pointing out that sometimes a short week means your schedule didn't permit training, not that you were too fatigued to get it done. |
| 2010-06-23 8:15 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread It's not always ALL ABOUT YOU, Josh Kaptur. It's about me. Man was it HOT out today! |
| 2010-06-23 8:18 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread And to answer your question, Frederick: If my trip to LP the weekend on the 10th goes well, and if the few days before the race goes well (in other words: if I feel that Magic everyone talks about) then, "Yeah man" I will sign up again the Saturday before the race. If however, I do sign up again, I will not be paying over a grand to stay in a regular hotel for 5 days that normally cost 99 bucks in the off-season. I'll be camping!! Speaking of Magic, I can't get this song out of my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBS4bMIAu20 Lastly, if any of you guys fluent with this course will be riding it Saturday July 10th, please PM me. I will be doing my last long ride on this course, 2 loops on 7/10 and running 1 loop of the Run Sunday, followed by a dip in Mirror Lake. Then I'll start my Taper Monday the 12th. I think this will agree best with my mind & body. Oh, and one more thing: my buddy that was up in LP this weekend said, last he heard the bridge is coming along nicely and may not be ready for cars, but should be ready for bikes. We'll see Edited by Dream Chaser 2010-06-23 8:26 PM |
| 2010-06-23 8:24 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread "Americans will soon be required by federal law to carry health insurance." |
| 2010-06-23 8:28 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread ^^^ I withdraw my prior comment that there cannot be hijacking in this thread. Errr... well that was more like a plane, bus, car, monorail, ferry all crashing into one another admits the earthquake. |
| 2010-06-23 8:30 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Taper shamper…..people should just ride more hill's. All this talk about tapering, just making thing complicated. |
| 2010-06-23 8:31 PM in reply to: #2940206 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Dream Chaser - 2010-06-23 7:15 PM It's not always ALL ABOUT YOU, Josh Kaptur. It's about me. Man was it HOT out today! 104 here this afternoon on my 50 mile ride. |
| 2010-06-23 8:32 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread No IMLP for me next year. I'll spend the 10K in plane tickets going to IMAUS, visting China, and the mainland Japan twice. |
| 2010-06-23 8:34 PM in reply to: #2940227 |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Dream Chaser - 2010-06-23 9:28 PM ^^^ I withdraw my prior comment that there cannot be hijacking in this thread. Errr... well that was more like a plane, bus, car, monorail, ferry all crashing into one another admits the earthquake. I read this thread every day for the entertainment. LOVE hearing other people’s opinions. For me race ON……..and hope I don’t double flat or I’ll quite. |
| 2010-06-23 8:34 PM in reply to: #2337428 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread What's the longest thread on BT ever? Anyone know? Edited by Dream Chaser 2010-06-23 8:36 PM |
| 2010-06-23 8:35 PM in reply to: #2940248 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread tasr - 2010-06-23 9:34 PM Dream Chaser - 2010-06-23 9:28 PM ^^^ I withdraw my prior comment that there cannot be hijacking in this thread. Errr... well that was more like a plane, bus, car, monorail, ferry all crashing into one another admits the earthquake. I read this thread every day for the entertainment. LOVE hearing other people’s opinions. For me race ON……..and hope I don’t double flat or I’ll quite. Dude, you'll double flat and still beat me on the bike. SO YOU BETTER NOT! |
| 2010-06-23 8:38 PM in reply to: #2940239 |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread bryancd - 2010-06-23 9:31 PM Dream Chaser - 2010-06-23 7:15 PM 104 here this afternoon on my 50 mile ride. It's not always ALL ABOUT YOU, Josh Kaptur. It's about me. Man was it HOT out today! Not very humid in the desert. I lived in the high desert for nearly 5 year it’s was great. Zero humidity, warm in the days and cool at night. |
| 2010-06-23 8:43 PM in reply to: #2940251 |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread Dream Chaser - 2010-06-23 9:34 PM What's the longest thread on BT ever? Anyone know? I don’t know but there is a thread in COJ “Are you GAY??” that could have potential. |
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