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 2017-01-09 1:33 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master  7712     Orlando |  Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 EditionOriginally posted by IronOx Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use paid. I use it for planned and completed workouts. I like that it gives me green for completed (within 20% either way of planned time completed), yellow for close, and red for 'you missed a workout get off your lazy azz'. I like that you can have a coach enter your planned workouts and you can communicate through the app. I like the graphs (I am a nerd, I know it) for individual workouts, as well as training loads. You can usually find a coupon code at this time of year that will give I think 20% off. Interesting. Would you still do the paid version if you were not working with a coach? Yes, I actually started TP before the coach (and I am actually not officially using a coach, but the ability is there). IIRC, I started with the paid because free you can't move workouts around. If you put in a stock plan (I used a paid HIM plan last year, Matt Fitzgerald I think), you have to just let the workouts stay where they are. I needed to move stuff around for Masters swim etc. Gotcha, thanks. |
| 2017-01-09 1:35 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by amd723 Currently use the free version, since it was linkked to my Timex GPS watch. I have it linked to Garmin Connect now. I haven't looked at it in ages. I simply keep stuff there in the event that someday in the future I have a coach. I'd upgrade at that point, but would have historical data.Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! You're as bad as I! I upload all my workouts to BT (and strava) b/c I linked everything, but once I look at the workout after upload I never look at it again. I might be able to actually learn something if I paid a bit more attention |
| 2017-01-09 2:32 PM in reply to: amd723 |
74 Smithtown, New York | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition From a lot I see I think a lot of athletes should get back to basics, seems with all the techtoday we're forgetting the heart of our sport! For me triathlon is sense of adventure, train hard, work hard and party hard hehe. I love how the sport really toughens me up and I'm becoming a better person for it. Oh and a good beer at the end of a hard long run is a great reward  http://www.runnersworld.se/blogs/magnusjonsson/old-school-essential... |
| 2017-01-09 2:41 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use paid. I use it for planned and completed workouts. I like that it gives me green for completed (within 20% either way of planned time completed), yellow for close, and red for 'you missed a workout get off your lazy azz'. I like that you can have a coach enter your planned workouts and you can communicate through the app. I like the graphs (I am a nerd, I know it) for individual workouts, as well as training loads. You can usually find a coupon code at this time of year that will give I think 20% off. Interesting. Would you still do the paid version if you were not working with a coach? I use the paid version coach free and love it. It's how I plan my whole year / racing season. With the free version you cannot plan workouts, it only shows completed workouts that you input or that have synced via garminconnect etc. I use the annual plan to get an idea of when my base/build/peak phases should be and how I should proportionally add/subtract training load. I use the performance management chart to ensure that I'm always building fitness leading up to a race and not stagnating. It's also super motivating to know that if you miss a workout or two, you're not going to hit the fitness numbers in the chart like you had planned. And as mentioned, it's as easy as dragging and dropping to move stuff around if you need to. I do it all the time. Even if you don't go for the paid version now, and even if you don't use the free version now, do as Chris has done and setup a free account and sync it with your garminconnect. That way it will have your workout history from now until the time you may decide to use it. |
| 2017-01-09 3:03 PM in reply to: #5208007 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Hey all. Just checking in - in reading along but am at a conference in San Francisco all week and covered up busy (40 meetings or so over 3 days, plus 5-6 events each evening). Sounds great until you try it. Anyway, will read along but prolly not post much for a few days (you'll be relieved to know). M |
| 2017-01-09 5:50 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 8250 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition I've used it since I started working with a coach last November. She requires athletes to have the premium edition. Still pretty cheap at less than $10 a month. Honestly, not sure if I would use it otherwise. I would need to educate myself more about the features to make good use of them. I don't really understand how it calculates things like training stress and all that other stuff (seems like it is new this year) like fitness, fatigue, form, etc. Really, my understanding of tri training is kind of limited, as is my time. If I had more time, or were coaching myself, I would be interested in that and maybe make better use of TP. But right now, it's part of what I pay my coach to worry about! I've logged my training on BT since about six months after starting tri, and I continue to use it to track overall volume by week, month, and year, and to compare my training from year to year. I like the graphs on BT as they are simple! I don't put specific workouts on there anymore as this is part of an agreement my coach has with her athletes (I know--a bit odd. There was some very heated criticism of this policy on another thread; would prefer not to comment. I'm sure she has her reasons.) If a detailed workout is in my BT log, it's one that I made up myself or got from some website or master's swim practice. The detailed workouts are on my TP account. I do like the ability to easily upload Garmin data (for bike and sometimes run, in my case.) to TP. |
| 2017-01-09 6:02 PM in reply to: #5209651 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! |
| 2017-01-09 6:09 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Hey look - I'm jumping in 7 pages earlier than last year! Mtnbikerchk/MBC/Randee Story: was never really a very active kid - did what I had to - to get by. I played high school softball and skiied a ton (both of which you can do fat). After college I took up mountain biking (which was always followed by beer and burgers). At at 37 DH decided he was tired of being fat so started running. After a year of following him around to races etc I decided if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Fast forward, to age 42 and probably 2 years on these forums I did my first IM. And the rest is history. Family: DH, 2 cats and 1 greyhound Training: Coach 2017: A Race is Barrelman 70.3 in Niagara Falls. 2016: IMMT was the big one. Weather was uncooperative. I finished. Decided no fulls for 2017 What makes me a good Manatee: I'm generally a nice person with a snarky attitude so while I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say I also offer comic relief Miss me? And yes, Ann-Marie I use Training Peaks -the paid version with my coach. It's fine. If I didn't have a coach I might use the free version. I guess it's all what you want to get out of it - if you love numbers and fancy graphs then that's the program for you! hahaha RAndee, yes you were missed! What I really want is a program that can do all the work outs I don't want to do for me. That may be too much to ask. when you figure it out, let me know!! |
| 2017-01-09 7:22 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Shorter than usual RR up for Piggy's Revenge. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=545449 Fun stuff, learned a bunch, and will do more of this in the future. But not until I figure out bike handling in the woods. |
| 2017-01-09 7:37 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
| 74 Smithtown, New York | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use paid. I use it for planned and completed workouts. I like that it gives me green for completed (within 20% either way of planned time completed), yellow for close, and red for 'you missed a workout get off your lazy azz'. I like that you can have a coach enter your planned workouts and you can communicate through the app. I like the graphs (I am a nerd, I know it) for individual workouts, as well as training loads. You can usually find a coupon code at this time of year that will give I think 20% off. Interesting. Would you still do the paid version if you were not working with a coach? I use the paid version coach free and love it. It's how I plan my whole year / racing season. With the free version you cannot plan workouts, it only shows completed workouts that you input or that have synced via garminconnect etc. I use the annual plan to get an idea of when my base/build/peak phases should be and how I should proportionally add/subtract training load. I use the performance management chart to ensure that I'm always building fitness leading up to a race and not stagnating. It's also super motivating to know that if you miss a workout or two, you're not going to hit the fitness numbers in the chart like you had planned. And as mentioned, it's as easy as dragging and dropping to move stuff around if you need to. I do it all the time. Even if you don't go for the paid version now, and even if you don't use the free version now, do as Chris has done and setup a free account and sync it with your garminconnect. That way it will have your workout history from now until the time you may decide to use it. I've never used training peaks. I'm self coaching myself and using google calendar to put my weekly workouts. How is the workout tracker on TP? I find garmin connect pretty useful in tracking my progress |
| 2017-01-10 12:43 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 8250 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. |
| 2017-01-10 6:33 AM in reply to: ponderingfox |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ponderingfox So I got my dad (and mom and brother) a Fitbit for Christmas. He is definitely not an active person. However, something about it has got him up and moving around. He's actually taking walks now, and trying. This is a big deal. I'm glad he likes it! Nice! It is amazing what those things do for motivation! |
| 2017-01-10 6:36 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! Yes, but I'm not using Zwift, so I'm not able to help. I just noticed that a few people have the same workouts on both sites. And one of them rarely logs in here, so my guess is that it is auto uploading. |
| 2017-01-10 7:11 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use Training Peaks with . I had the free version for a while to play with it partly because I knew that my next coach was likely to be on TP. I got frustrated with the free version because it was difficult to plan ahead. With the free version you can record what you did but not plan what you are going to do. USAT members get a 20% off discount for TP.
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| 2017-01-10 7:17 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Hey look - I'm jumping in 7 pages earlier than last year! Mtnbikerchk/MBC/Randee Story: was never really a very active kid - did what I had to - to get by. I played high school softball and skiied a ton (both of which you can do fat). After college I took up mountain biking (which was always followed by beer and burgers). At at 37 DH decided he was tired of being fat so started running. After a year of following him around to races etc I decided if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Fast forward, to age 42 and probably 2 years on these forums I did my first IM. And the rest is history. Family: DH, 2 cats and 1 greyhound Training: Coach 2017: A Race is Barrelman 70.3 in Niagara Falls. 2016: IMMT was the big one. Weather was uncooperative. I finished. Decided no fulls for 2017 What makes me a good Manatee: I'm generally a nice person with a snarky attitude so while I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say I also offer comic relief Miss me? And yes, Ann-Marie I use Training Peaks -the paid version with my coach. It's fine. If I didn't have a coach I might use the free version. I guess it's all what you want to get out of it - if you love numbers and fancy graphs then that's the program for you! Welcome back, Randee! Glad to see that someone here is able to give Rev3 some love! |
| 2017-01-10 7:20 AM in reply to: Rileyvb91 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Rileyvb91 From a lot I see I think a lot of athletes should get back to basics, seems with all the techtoday we're forgetting the heart of our sport! For me triathlon is sense of adventure, train hard, work hard and party hard hehe. I love how the sport really toughens me up and I'm becoming a better person for it. Oh and a good beer at the end of a hard long run is a great reward http://www.runnersworld.se/blogs/magnusjonsson/old-school-essential... Beer is definitely an important thing. Maybe we need some kind of beer logging that can autosync with... |
| 2017-01-10 7:25 AM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by amd723 I use the paid version coach free and love it. It's how I plan my whole year / racing season. With the free version you cannot plan workouts, it only shows completed workouts that you input or that have synced via garminconnect etc. I use the annual plan to get an idea of when my base/build/peak phases should be and how I should proportionally add/subtract training load. I use the performance management chart to ensure that I'm always building fitness leading up to a race and not stagnating. It's also super motivating to know that if you miss a workout or two, you're not going to hit the fitness numbers in the chart like you had planned. And as mentioned, it's as easy as dragging and dropping to move stuff around if you need to. I do it all the time. Even if you don't go for the paid version now, and even if you don't use the free version now, do as Chris has done and setup a free account and sync it with your garminconnect. That way it will have your workout history from now until the time you may decide to use it. Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use paid. I use it for planned and completed workouts. I like that it gives me green for completed (within 20% either way of planned time completed), yellow for close, and red for 'you missed a workout get off your lazy azz'. I like that you can have a coach enter your planned workouts and you can communicate through the app. I like the graphs (I am a nerd, I know it) for individual workouts, as well as training loads. You can usually find a coupon code at this time of year that will give I think 20% off. Interesting. Would you still do the paid version if you were not working with a coach? I'm glad that you brought up the annual plan. I find that to be an interesting feature. It sets up your recovery/adaption weeks within the base/build/peak phases. FWIW, you can bring over all of your historic data from Garmin Connect, etc. into TP using tapiriik -- https://tapiriik.com/. It brings over everything, not just the last few weeks. |
| 2017-01-10 7:27 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Hot Runner I've used it since I started working with a coach last November. She requires athletes to have the premium edition. Still pretty cheap at less than $10 a month. Honestly, not sure if I would use it otherwise. I would need to educate myself more about the features to make good use of them. I don't really understand how it calculates things like training stress and all that other stuff (seems like it is new this year) like fitness, fatigue, form, etc. Really, my understanding of tri training is kind of limited, as is my time. If I had more time, or were coaching myself, I would be interested in that and maybe make better use of TP. But right now, it's part of what I pay my coach to worry about! I've logged my training on BT since about six months after starting tri, and I continue to use it to track overall volume by week, month, and year, and to compare my training from year to year. I like the graphs on BT as they are simple! I don't put specific workouts on there anymore as this is part of an agreement my coach has with her athletes (I know--a bit odd. There was some very heated criticism of this policy on another thread; would prefer not to comment. I'm sure she has her reasons.) If a detailed workout is in my BT log, it's one that I made up myself or got from some website or master's swim practice. The detailed workouts are on my TP account. I do like the ability to easily upload Garmin data (for bike and sometimes run, in my case.) to TP. Like you, I've tried to understand it and I do in a big picture kind of way but right now, I leave that to Jackie. |
| 2017-01-10 7:39 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! It sounds like maybe a third party tool is needed so that you can go Zwift > Strava > BT. What can Swift automatically connect with? |
| 2017-01-10 7:46 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by cdban66 Shorter than usual RR up for Piggy's Revenge. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=545449 Fun stuff, learned a bunch, and will do more of this in the future. But not until I figure out bike handling in the woods. Riding in the woods there would be way different from lots of places. Was there much sand? |
| 2017-01-10 7:47 AM in reply to: Rileyvb91 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Rileyvb91 Originally posted by Jet Black I've never used training peaks. I'm self coaching myself and using google calendar to put my weekly workouts. How is the workout tracker on TP? I find garmin connect pretty useful in tracking my progress Originally posted by amd723 I use the paid version coach free and love it. It's how I plan my whole year / racing season. With the free version you cannot plan workouts, it only shows completed workouts that you input or that have synced via garminconnect etc. I use the annual plan to get an idea of when my base/build/peak phases should be and how I should proportionally add/subtract training load. I use the performance management chart to ensure that I'm always building fitness leading up to a race and not stagnating. It's also super motivating to know that if you miss a workout or two, you're not going to hit the fitness numbers in the chart like you had planned. And as mentioned, it's as easy as dragging and dropping to move stuff around if you need to. I do it all the time. Even if you don't go for the paid version now, and even if you don't use the free version now, do as Chris has done and setup a free account and sync it with your garminconnect. That way it will have your workout history from now until the time you may decide to use it. Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use paid. I use it for planned and completed workouts. I like that it gives me green for completed (within 20% either way of planned time completed), yellow for close, and red for 'you missed a workout get off your lazy azz'. I like that you can have a coach enter your planned workouts and you can communicate through the app. I like the graphs (I am a nerd, I know it) for individual workouts, as well as training loads. You can usually find a coupon code at this time of year that will give I think 20% off. Interesting. Would you still do the paid version if you were not working with a coach? It's all a matter of how you like to organize yourself and what kind of reporting you find helpful. The important thing is that you are organizing yourself! I think that programs like Training Peaks can help you out once you've identified target races but you could develop a season long plan with a pen and paper, just counting back the weeks from your target races. If you are into numbers., TP will certainly provide a lot of data to work with! |
| 2017-01-10 7:49 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! |
| 2017-01-10 7:50 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! It sounds like maybe a third party tool is needed so that you can go Zwift > Strava > BT. What can Swift automatically connect with? Am I the only one that uses NONE of these? I am a dinosaur and am easily confused and over loaded with too many places to record too much data. |
| 2017-01-10 7:57 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ceilidh Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! It sounds like maybe a third party tool is needed so that you can go Zwift > Strava > BT. What can Swift automatically connect with? Am I the only one that uses NONE of these? I am a dinosaur and am easily confused and over loaded with too many places to record too much data. I don't use Zwift. I do use Strava but more as a social platform than a training log platform. (Strava will auto upload from Garmin so it's easy if you want to join us) |
| 2017-01-10 8:27 AM in reply to: #5209664 |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition I ride outside so rarely, except to MB, that Strava seems silly. |
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